Im fooking DONE!

[Compo]

This game just brings too much stress!
Ive just been playing the same race over and over, just so i can start near the front and get into a breakaway.
7 races, all had breakaways which i am stuck near middle/back. Pisses me off, especially with the terrible load times!
Then finally I get a start near the front. An attack was launched, an i followed it. The WHOLE feking peloton followed ME. Yes little 19yrs with no stats, ME. A 2nd attack was launched, i followed again...Peloton follwed ME again. A 3rd attack, i tried to follow, but something fooked up, and i ended up aborting it. The peloton...yes...followed ME.

Im sorry, i tried this game over and over. Sometimes ive had a real fun experience, sometimes its left me feeling REALLY anoyed. I love my games hard, but i hate having my hands tied!

Ive had help from a dev on some matters, and im thankful for that. But theres things that doesnt make it feel like a simulation. Like not knowing other teams racers stamina etc.
For all i know they all have infinite stamina etc, and the sim side is more shallow than p.iss on a wall.

I will be writing a review for this, maybe after another couple goes ;)

[FCS_Melodie]

Hello again Compo,

Just to let you know, you can change the game's difficulty from the options menu. Other team riders do not have infinite stamina, but they will tend to chase the player more than IA riders regardless of the difficulty.

Good luck!

Mélodie

[Compo]

Hi Melodie :)

As ive said before, its not about winning for me. I like my games hard..but not fake-hard, kinda setup for it to be hard. In simulations, surely there should be no discriminations between player and AI?
Im still playing this game because its hard, but im starting to feel im not really racing against other racers, im racing the game itself. If you know what i mean :)

On top of all this, ive just had a CTD, after i just cut the time on a stage leader. So yeap..frustrated again lol. It also crashed steam, so im not totally sure..it could well have been steam that caused it? Although it did freeze (like it does at times) when i hit the "results" button after the race.
This is the first crash ive had.

Oh one other thing, id like to report, if you dont mind. This stage im racing in at the moment...um..ive already raced before, this season lol. I know this because on each stage that i do well on, i write down. Of course i dont really mind this..as my fella is pretty good in these races :D I havent lost any of the points or anything, so getting close to lvl12 :)

Thx

[Compo]

Me again lol

Could someone please explain breakaways for me?
ATM what im seeing doesnt follow the rules of physics...

I SPRINT away with a few other guys, but the WHOLE peloton is hot on our heels for the whole time. My sprint bar is doomed, and some of my energy is down (expectedly), and im guessing the guys with me, who tried to breakaway.
Now ive got several team-mates in the peloton, who have full stat bars when they catch us up...hows that possible?
Does it mean:
7 guys sprinting at say 100mph, moves the same speed as 100 guys at 50mph? Now if 20 of those guys matched our speed, wouldnt that form a breakaway of 27?
But its not..the whole peloton must have been sprinting, otherwise there would have been a break somewhere..right?
How do people at the mid/back of a breakaway continue to keep up, using little effort?

I understand slipstream and such, but surely they would be needing to be traveling at a similar speed for it to be effective?
E.G The riders at the front of the peloton MUST be sprinting to stay with a breakaway, so the guys behind must be too?

Or am i missing something? Thx

Edit:
Also would like some advice on how to beat a rider who's relatively poor on hills and mountains...on a hilly and mountain stage?
The guy has around 55 on hill and mountain stats. I have 10+ on both. Ive been trying to ramp it up on hills and mountains..but the guy just follows me..NP. Then at the end hes still there. My team mates who have similar stats are left behind. Dont get it?!?!?
Please allow us to see other riders stats during race (energy etc), UNLESS of course you have something to hide? lol :D
If you cannot get in a breakaway, the only strategy I can see is. Hit maintain position, whack it on 8X speed till last 6km. Hit energy gel...then sprint at 1-2km to go.
Which is defunked, when i have a guy as explained above...who seems to beable to follow me through hell, and still come up smelling of roses.
BTW he has 7sec lead on me going into this last race of the stage...i can beat him, just not by 7secs, because he follows me everywhere lol

[MuchMucho]

I had similar problems since Im a stagerider, did attack up mountain other climbers my skil 81, their skill 70 followed me and didnt get, tired overtook me at base of mountain was totally fresh, but lost to a guy with skill level of 70 with over 2 min he should have been "dead" when I sprinted and he followed but he wasnt, though it was a bug but perhaps its an unregistered use of EPO, like 10 l.

[Compo]

Aye sounds similar to what i had buddy. Hopefully its something theyre working on...

I do have my rants, but only about games i really like.
This game will not defeat me! :)

[Bammers]

You are 100% correct. This version of cycling manager is pretty bad. I went back to 2016 with a couple workshop items and imediately had fun again. Too bad I can't get a refund anymore

[ardkore1992]

Gosh!

I played TDF 2015 on the xbox one (same game but for the box) and I wasn't too thrilled. The bikes weren't authentic and the team names all had to be changed which took forever. I take it the publisher didn't get the rights to the bike designs or the teams. "Chris Fume"? Yet Naro Quintana was on board complete with his photo. Weird stuff.

Just do what I do and buy yourself a Pinarello Dogma with Dura Ace Di2, and a bunch of Team Sky kit, then go out riding in your neighborhood. However I still complain when real world riders are faster then me and I get dropped. ;)

[rgroy]

Absolutely true. This game has become a silly game where you only are able to keep yout team getting water, not moving from the big group, not trying breakaways, just trying to take a god position betwen the liders not for winning just for watching how they win atacking in the last five kilometers. This is stupid, no matter what team you play, no matter if you play with Contador, Froome, Dumoulin, Quintana, Porte... when they are not playing with the A.I. they are absolute beginners, when they are your oponnets they are supernatural dopped cyclist men. No matter what db you use, no matter what difficultty level you play. Anoying silly game. As Compo says, you play against a bad game, unbalanced game, tricky game. Uninstalling the game completely right now, I'm foocking done too. Great post Compo.

[cya_tuan]

I have to agree with that. The Artificial intelligence is far too agressive.
It took us some time to spot the issue :(
It's in our High Priority List, aka we are working on it right now

[rgroy]

I must to say that these are good news, coming from you Mura, as developer. That's making me feel sorry about my hard words, I love this game but this love got some of us really annoyed not been able to love it because of this A.I agressivity. Also I'm playing the console version of the Tour de France 2017 and assuming some bugs I found on it, I already can say that the A.I y console game this year is really balanced and pretty better than latest years, playing up in legend mode. Keep up the good work I sincerely trust that your post can get me back to PCM 17 again if you fix it. Sorry again about being some kind of rude. Regards.

[FCS_Melodie]

Hello rgroy,

Really nice of you saying you regretting your harsh word! We won't hold it against you, don't worry! It's compeltely ok to critisize the game as long as you don't be rude to the dev team and support people that are doing their best to help you and fix as many issues as possible. Your complains are fair and justified and many players have reported the AI difficulty issue this year so it is normal for us to work on fixing it and do our best to make most of our players happy with the game!

We will let you know when we'll have an update planned for this issue.

Thanks for the support!

Mélodie

[Compo]

Great news! :)
Really refreshing for a dev team, to not only listen to some critigue, but also try to implement. Thx

[rgroy]

Ok, testing your new update where supossely deav team have fixed some of the iA issues, I can say that this game is becoming year by yerar needing to get a title change like FroomeSimulator. I'm preety boored about seeing Froome wining all stages. Really tired, I'm sorry to say that. Why just can not be a game where you run with a rider who have 80 +3 in a good day getting in a Mountain Stage this stats, and letting the gamers to play with the stamina we spend in the propper way or in the wrong way. I would love to see that I lost an stage because I really wasted my stamina than thinking in your still booring algorithm based in extranges things like "If your rider has more than 70% climbing a less tan 7 % will get 100% of their stats working. You really had a lovely game till PCM 2015, now I must say do not want to play your FroomeSimulator any more. Sorry for being sarcastic. I'm finaly dissapointed with this game at all.

Regards

[FCS_Melodie]

Hey rgroy,

Have you been using a custom DB? Stats can be changed in a custom DB and you're the first I see reporting that Froome wins all the races.
He's not called Froome in the official DB so I'm guessing you're using a custom one in which stats might have been altered.

Mélodie

[SilentPain]

I have to agree that it is nearly impossible to join any breakaways, even with the lowest difficulty setting. The AI always picks up the pace if I try to break away. No matter if my rider is 2 hours behind in the standings or whatever. Every other AI rider can break away as much as they want, while I am stuck in the peloton. Very annoying, absolutely no fun.