are broadswords worth using?

[ProxyJames]

ok so I am still on vol 1 and I just got the ablity to use broadswors so I picked up the broad wings and so far...its kind of crappy, I havn't leveled up my skill yet but it only has a two hit combo max and while its hitting for more damage the twin blades out DPS hands down so are they worth using at all?

[Getterfan]

IMO, boardsword is more useful against monsters that have armor (the red bar under their HP) nothing more. They become better in Vol 2.

[ProxyJames]

Originally posted by Getterfan:

IMO, boardsword is more useful against monsters that have armor (the red bar under their HP) nothing more. They become better in Vol 2.

well so far I am taking out armor faster with my twin swords on account of how fast I can attack with them

[Hitorishizuka]

Originally posted by ProxyJames:

ok so I am still on vol 1 and I just got the ablity to use broadswors so I picked up the broad wings and so far...its kind of crappy, I havn't leveled up my skill yet but it only has a two hit combo max and while its hitting for more damage the twin blades out DPS hands down so are they worth using at all?

They are worth using. Broadswords are very powerful. The hold and release type are a lot more common than the rapid attacks(mash attack button) type. Broadswords are very good against enemies that are shelled/armored. The mechanics for broadswords get improved in Vol 2.

[ProxyJames]

Originally posted by Hitorishizuka:

Originally posted by ProxyJames:

ok so I am still on vol 1 and I just got the ablity to use broadswors so I picked up the broad wings and so far...its kind of crappy, I havn't leveled up my skill yet but it only has a two hit combo max and while its hitting for more damage the twin blades out DPS hands down so are they worth using at all?

They are worth using. Boardswords are very powerful. The hold and release type are a lot more common than the rapid attacks(mash attack button) type. Boardswords are very good against enemies that are shelled/armored. The mechanics for boardswords get improved in Vol 2.

well like I said so far they fall flat, yes they do hit hard but using a +5 broad wing the full combo only hits for maybe 200ish damage and my +5 axes are already able to outdo that only taking 1-3 combos to kill a target where the sword takes 5+ combos

[Getterfan]

Well, broadsword may not be the strongest, but their 2nd attack is an AoE and knock small enemies up in the air. This way you can damage multiple enemies at the same time when they're all grouped up and in the same time you are preventing them from attacking you or your allies.

[ProxyJames]

Originally posted by Getterfan:

Well, broadsword may not be the strongest, but their 2nd attack is an AoE and knock small enemies up in the air. This way you can damage multiple enemies at the same time when they're all grouped up and in the same time you are preventing them from attacking you or your allies.

so far all weapons have a AoE to them, well not really a AoE more like a cleave effect, the spin axe has a really really good one with the spins.

[Hitorishizuka]

Originally posted by ProxyJames:

Originally posted by Hitorishizuka:

They are worth using. Boardswords are very powerful. The hold and release type are a lot more common than the rapid attacks(mash attack button) type. Boardswords are very good against enemies that are shelled/armored. The mechanics for boardswords get improved in Vol 2.

well like I said so far they fall flat, yes they do hit hard but using a +5 broad wing the full combo only hits for maybe 200ish damage and my +5 axes are already able to outdo that only taking 1-3 combos to kill a target where the sword takes 5+ combos

Your weapons do get better over the volumes. Broadswords may be slow but they have area of effect. Also the 2nd attack from a hold and release broadsword has hitstun. Broadswords can also juggles enemies that are small/medium size very easily.

When fighting enemies that do not flinch easy or at all a boardsword is usually the best choice.

Canceling the 2nd part of a broadsword's attack animation is also an effective way to quickly do damage and guard your self. Broadswords have much higher damage output than dual swords.

Ulimately though you're going to have to make use of all the weapon types you get through .hack GU.

[ShinkuTear]

Rapid type Broadswords are actually one of the best weapons you can use before you get the guns in Volume 3, putting player preference aside.

[Dosbilliam, Boring but Practical]

Originally posted by ShinkuTear:

before you get the guns in Volume 3

Which only have a Rengeki-related downside, which doesn't really negate the overpoweredness of them.

That being said, Broadswords have a lower Rengeki threshhold than Dual Swords, usually taking 10 hits to trigger it instead of around 15; combining it with the animation canceling mentioned earlier, it's actually fairly easy to get Rengekis, meaning more XP if you don't do what I do and head to higher-level areas to maximize XP gain. :P

[Beautiful Ham Sandwich]

Despite how it seems, the Broadswords have multiple good uses. Like others have said, Broadswords have a very low Rengeki threshold. It makes sense that a lower attack speed weapon would require less hits after all, Rengeki is far quicker to obtain if I put a Rengeki quickening mod on a Broadsword than Dual Swords. You can quickly guard right after your first attack to cancel the combo, so you can just keep using that first attack, doing far quicker damage and making the Rengeki chaining easier. If you use the hold and release variants (which you really should be using, there's absolutely no point to the other types) then you can basically stun lock an enemy forever, or deal enormous damage with it, even when they're blocking.

Dual Swords are only ever better than the other two weapons when you're using them for Aerial enemies, and when you only want to hit one enemy at a time. They can't break shelled enemies as fast if you use the second attack on hold varient Broadswords properly. If you use the very easy cancelling trick on the Broadsword then they don't do as much damage either. They don't have anything to stunlock or displace the enemy with unless you're using the hold to charge variants of Dual Swords, but that's too unreliable for stunlock. At the very least, they're not as good as Broadswords where you're at.

[Green Man Jumpscare]

"Press and hold" Broadswords are borderline broken when you get them and for a while afterwords, all due to the normal combo of attack then charge. Get the timing down, which is not difficult, and you can stunlock groups of enemies infinitely. Even if you are underleveled, this can completely trivialize the Arena. Yes, the downside is less Rengeki, which is valid. I personally did not find this to be a huge drawback, as my teammates were hitting enemies so much beside me and triggering them anyway that it did not seem like a huge difference to me, even less so if you install a Rengeki quickening item. You want to focus Hangeki in the Arena anyway.

I personally find the rapid-type weapons to be garbage in any of the three weapon types.

[Razelluxe]

Vol 1 doesn't really get into weapon mechanics much, you can use dual swords through the whole thing without an issue.
By Vol 3 you'll be constantly switching out weapons for different enemies/situations.

[G.N.S.]

By the time you get into Vol 2 and 3, Rapid Attacks Broadswords can charge your Rengeki really fast. They are by far my favorite weapon to use.

[Shomlakone]

I've found broadswords pretty useful. And they can attack pretty fast if you swing then guard when it connects. Allows you to attack again pretty quickly

[ElCid]

You can obliterate the Doppelganger in seconds with Hold and Release Broadswords while under Beast Awakening. Overall they're best suited to fight Armored foes and stun enemies.