Alicemare

Alicemare

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Felixinius Nov 19, 2017 @ 9:54am
I need help understanding the story
Sorry if this sounds really dumb for most of you, but this story is confused to me, i can't make heads or tails out of this.

I've not done all the endings, just a few ones (mostly the ones you stab the other kids with the key)

What the hell is that place where Allen, "Teacher" and the other kids are? A school? A purgatory for dead kids? A madhouse for kids?

Yes i've understood the "Alice in Wonderland" perspective, but everything else is a blur for me.
What happened? Who's Allen, who's the teacher, who is anyone in here?

Do we ever access the rooms 101, the room behind the dinning area and the room at the right of teacher's room corridor?

Yeah maybe i'm putting too much effort into small details, but when i think i understand something, the game confuses me even more.
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Hitedo Nov 20, 2017 @ 12:24pm 
As far as i know you can't enter those rooms and if you get all endings and achievements (other than tetris achievement) you should learn who allen, teacher and others are.
Room 101 has been something miwashiba's teased about from the moment people wondered what was behind it four years ago, so any guess is as good. I know miwashiba doesn't like going back to their games so we probably wont get an update with 101 available at least. As for the other questions.. The alicemare novel covers most of it. This is gonna spoil some endings so I highly recommend you play them all if you dont want to be spoiled on anything.

When you stab the kids with the key, basically, you dun goofed and made the child into a doorway back to reality. The whole purpose of alicemare is a world where demons spirit kids away eat them. The reason cheshire doesn't kill anyone right away is because he gets more energy from the despair he recieves from children. Because children are pure, the more he takes away from them, the more delicious they become. Cheshire and Rabbit play a game to get to eat the children, and if you stab with a key, you're essentially throwing that kid in the lions den to have their soul/spirit eaten in exchange for getting a way out. The storybooks are hints about the childrens past in a way that says "see what a terrible life they had and you made it even worse by making them a demons plaything for all eternity!" If you want deeper understanding on the characters backstory if you can' gleam from the context, the novel does a good way of going over it.

Alicemare is kind of a door between "our" world and the world where demons are. A lot of the info on demons and stuff is kept ambiquous with no real explanation on it, but I assume Cheshire's ability to control doors is how he gets kids in to his world and that the buttefly at the start of the game was one gateway Allen mistakenly triggered. Teacher is researching "alicemare" so he probably obtained that gateway through research and that's why he's so angry because he knew everyone was going to be pulled in and he hadn't finished his research. Novel covers more on that.

Hope I got everything! It's been awhile since I read the novel, so im a little rusty on some details. you can read the novel on vgpersons tumblr at http://vgperson.tumblr.com/post/112659807015/alice-mare-the-novel-part-1

Last edited by Starrybunnieboy [Vtuber]; Nov 22, 2017 @ 11:14pm
Felixinius Nov 22, 2017 @ 11:26pm 
Oh my god. Thank you so much, Nanashi. This was an even better explanation than i expected. I played through the game under sleep deprivation. While i COULD solve the puzzles, a few story details went missing in my head.

I'm a crazy nut for horror games and i was rushing the game in order to get to the "spook" part but it never came, aside from chesire minor jumpscares which were not even worth it.

I guess the least i could do is replay the game again, giving it a better attention. Thank you.
slothmama Nov 24, 2017 @ 7:53pm 
Isn't it called the Nightmare Syndrome instead of Alice Mare? XD

Anyways, yeah you're probably gonna be disappointed playing any of miwashiba's games since this is just a story-adventure game than an actual horror game.

The place that Teacher and the kids live is his care facility for traumitized kids he counsels with (which... never really got clarified until the novel so I don't blame you). The building used to be an mental asylum and Room 101 was a remnant of it that never really got refurbished. But it doesn't really serve a purpose at all in the real world and what purpose it serves in the Nightmare Syndrome is anyone's guess.

I love this game but honestly it's so easy to miss what's going on if you're not paying attention and looking around everywhere for that story content. So much easier just reading the novel tbh.
Felixinius Nov 24, 2017 @ 8:15pm 
Alright i'll look up the novel, thank you :)
Originally posted by slothmama:
Isn't it called the Nightmare Syndrome instead of Alice Mare? XD
This is what I get for writing it at midning ohhg how could I forget it's Nightmare Syndrome?!
Cos Jan 29, 2018 @ 6:03pm 
Personally, I felt that finding the story in this game was what really made it worth it. Looking through and putting everything together piece by piece... I had put everything together after only a couple playthroughs(besides certain details like that room... I feel like the dev is hiding something there, but it might just be a front for something you can't physically find in the game), but I was pretty meticulous in my first playthrough about checking to find every book and hidden item(full discosure- I used a guide for a couple especially tricky parts '^^).
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slothmama Feb 9, 2018 @ 1:48pm 
Originally posted by Trey:
Personally, I felt that finding the story in this game was what really made it worth it. Looking through and putting everything together piece by piece... I had put everything together after only a couple playthroughs(besides certain details like that room... I feel like the dev is hiding something there, but it might just be a front for something you can't physically find in the game), but I was pretty meticulous in my first playthrough about checking to find every book and hidden item(full discosure- I used a guide for a couple especially tricky parts '^^).
I honestly find exploring every nook and cranny in every game rewarding, myself! :9
though i can't blame you on looking at a walkthrough, there were just some things that are easy to miss

I've first played Alice Mare when it first came out as a freeware game on 2013, so I've seen
so many times how many people not really understanding the story even though you could
get a pretty good idea of what's going on if you just looked around. But you can't exactly
admonish people for playing the game how they want to, you know? Just easier to tell people to read the novel at that point ^q^ ;;
Last edited by slothmama; Feb 9, 2018 @ 1:49pm
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