Dash Macro?

[Acedia]

So I've been trying to practice for Strive's release, but I have a rather large issue: I do not have the hand dexterity to dash at the right time. I can do circle/shoryu inputs fine, but dashing is my one weakness. Could someone help me set up a macro on or for my fightstick that can simulate a 66 or a 44?

[Shizuma]

Practice is the key, seriously. 66 or 44 are basics in fighting games. This kind of game requires some execution skills, unfortunately there are no shortcuts to it, many stick motions are way harder to input than dashing.

[Red]

Originally posted by Shizuma:

Practice is the key, seriously. 66 or 44 are basics in fighting games. This kind of game requires some execution skills, unfortunately there are no shortcuts to it, many stick motions are way harder to input than dashing.

This. If you want to play on an arcade stick, it's a matter of getting used to it. You might want to consider swapping the joystick for one with a shorter throw distance or use another control scheme (like controller or keyboard) if you still can't do anything after practicing, but first train and see if you can get better at dashing.

Also, I'm pretty sure there's an in-game macro for dashing forwards, but I'd bet it's mostly for when you need an IAD (not even intermediate player here, but I know most of the fundamentals).

[Shizuma]

There are no in game macros for forward dash, no matter which game you're playing at. Some games have an auto combo system but that's it. 66 motions results in dashing or running motion, which is available in every 21th century fighting game. It's like block, jump or throw, it's a feature you have to deal with.
Maybe the issue is that he is playing with analog joystick on his gamepad instead of the cross.

[Solemen Wolf]

Originally posted by Shizuma:

There are no in game macros for forward dash, no matter which game you're playing at. Some games have an auto combo system but that's it. 66 motions results in dashing or running motion, which is available in every 21th century fighting game. It's like block, jump or throw, it's a feature you have to deal with.
Maybe the issue is that he is playing with analog joystick on his gamepad instead of the cross.

Strive, Marvel and Skullgirls have dash macros or alternatives (Pressing 2 buttons simultaneously I think?).

But yeah, you gotta grind for it, especially when you do during a special or normal.

Sol is a character that uses some microdashes in his combo like with corner gunflame.

[Shizuma]

Oh yes you’re right about it, that’s very convenient btw. I didn’t know for Strive though.

[gigaturok]

Originally posted by Solemen Wolf:

Strive, Marvel and Skullgirls have dash macros or alternatives (Pressing 2 buttons simultaneously I think?).

There is an actual reason for Marvel and Skullgirls to have those. These two games have characters with diagonal airdashes and there is no way you'll be able to input a clean 33 or 99 everytime without a dedicated button for diagonals. So it's fine for them to have, because it makes basic movement options which are impossible to be consistent at(even for the very best) consistent.

[Shizuma]

Originally posted by gigaturok:

There is an actual reason for Marvel and Skullgirls to have those. These two games have characters with diagonal airdashes and there is no way you'll be able to input a clean 33 or 99 everytime without a dedicated button for diagonals. So it's fine for them to have, because it makes basic movement options which are impossible to be consistent at(even for the very best) consistent.

I think he was just answering my statement when that all fighting games had to dash/run with a 66 motion.
99 motion can't be input properly with an arcade stick or a pad. I think the only real option for that is a hitbox or a mixbox. Keyboard as well but not really suited for fighting games.

Anyway there are so many things more difficult to deal with in terms of motions than a dash. Fighting games players should be able to do 3 things : Find optimal answers to situations, read the opponent playstyle, and have a good execution. Every player are define by those archetypes, with more or less skill in each one. It's just part of the game, there are no shortcuts to it, every player has to train to raise his execution skills.

[THE mimalf]

no les bro no hablo ingles

[Shizuma]

Originally posted by THE mimalf:

no les bro no hablo ingles

Alors il va falloir faire un effort, l’anglais n’est pas tous notre langue maternelle et pourtant, on essaye.

[s4brface]

66 is extremely hard for me as someone whos disabled, stick motions i can do fine, but my left hand cannot physically input 66 fast enough for me to dash, stop treating questions for a dash macro as some scrub ♥♥♥♥ and not an accessibility issue

[Solemen Wolf]

Originally posted by AGGA:

66 is extremely hard for me as someone whos disabled, stick motions i can do fine, but my left hand cannot physically input 66 fast enough for me to dash, stop treating questions for a dash macro as some scrub ♥♥♥♥ and not an accessibility issue

No one was bashing on the person who can't do 66 input properly. We are saying for these older games, you were forced to do so.

Accessibility in arcade style games weren't really considered as much. They always push the limits since they were meant to be played in short terms and not long term.

Execution in timing and mashing were always a thing that comes slowly with time and dedication but you have to be careful on pushing yourself too much or else you'll hurt yourself.

Current games are doing what they can for accessibility but you can't expect them to go back to old or previous games and patch them up.

[Shizuma]

Originally posted by AGGA:

66 is extremely hard for me as someone whos disabled, stick motions i can do fine, but my left hand cannot physically input 66 fast enough for me to dash, stop treating questions for a dash macro as some scrub ♥♥♥♥ and not an accessibility issue

99% of the players have no physical issue doing a 66, answers asume people are able to do it. I've played once in a SFIII competition against a guy who was playing with his feet because he had no arms, am I thinking of him when I say that "there are so many things more difficult to deal with in terms of motions than a dash"? No, OP didn't mention at all he wasn't physically able to do it so everyone's here is assuming he can with some practice. There's no need to get offended here, Strive has a dash button, you'd better play it instead of Rev2

[gigaturok]

Originally posted by Shizuma:

Originally posted by AGGA:

66 is extremely hard for me as someone whos disabled, stick motions i can do fine, but my left hand cannot physically input 66 fast enough for me to dash, stop treating questions for a dash macro as some scrub ♥♥♥♥ and not an accessibility issue

99% of the players have no physical issue doing a 66, answers asume people are able to do it. I've played once in a SFIII competition against a guy who was playing with his feet because he had no arms, am I thinking of him when I say that "there are so many things more difficult to deal with in terms of motions than a dash"? No, OP didn't mention at all he wasn't physically able to do it so everyone's here is assuming he can with some practice. There's no need to get offended here, Strive has a dash button, you'd better play it instead of Rev2

I experienced something similar back then during Tekken 5:DR.
A Devil Jin player with only two fingers on his right hand and no fingers at all on his left hand. He played on regular DS3, had some of the best movement and Mishima execution I've ever seen up until that point.

[Adrian-the-Wallachian]

Originally posted by AGGA:

66 is extremely hard for me as someone whos disabled, stick motions i can do fine, but my left hand cannot physically input 66 fast enough for me to dash, stop treating questions for a dash macro as some scrub ♥♥♥♥ and not an accessibility issue

There was a guy with literally 2 fingers winning tekken tournaments, Wheelz in Killer Instinct, and Brolylegs (Who plays with his ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mouth) for street fighter.