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Shadow Sep 10, 2017 @ 8:43am
Specific Gun Damage (HK-PSG1 & Guass Rifle)
Ive noticed that a couple guns are weaker then they should be. for example the HK-PSG1 is harder to find then the SVD or the VSS Vintorez and it has a lower mag capacity yet it does less damage then the SVD. why is that? you'd think that it would have more damage to it because of its rarity compared to the SVD and VSS and its lower mag cap. As well as i find the the guass rifle isnt as powerful as it should be too. Its got a mag cap. of 10 rounds and a very slow fire rate. and its a 2 shot. ud think that alteast it would be a one shot if the person doesnt have good clothing on considering the fire rate. though i know it does a good amount of damage to vehicles. it still doesnt make much sence to be used just for that considering that just like the HK-PSG1 it is very rare. u can find it in the bunker sometimes as well as on a guard at the main looter settlement. but even then ammo is hard to come by. i suggest you raise the damage on both the HK-PSG1 and the guass rifle to make it more even considering their rarity and the mag caps of both weapons as well as the firerate. if anyone agrees or has any other comments feel free to add.
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Uh Duh Mass Sep 10, 2017 @ 8:55am 
there is still an armor rating based on what ammount of armor the target has. BUT a headshot will always end up being a kill, as long as it is a sniper rifle. PSG1 and SVD both kill with one shot to the head. to the body it can take 2 possibly 3 depending on where they are hit. Helmest only protect from AR, Shotgun and Pistol rounds, as long as it's not to the Face.
Last edited by Uh Duh Mass; Sep 10, 2017 @ 8:57am
Shadow Sep 10, 2017 @ 9:36am 
Originally posted by Uh Duh Mass:
there is still an armor rating based on what ammount of armor the target has. BUT a headshot will always end up being a kill, as long as it is a sniper rifle. PSG1 and SVD both kill with one shot to the head. to the body it can take 2 possibly 3 depending on where they are hit. Helmest only protect from AR, Shotgun and Pistol rounds, as long as it's not to the Face.
Ive shot people time and time again with the PSG1 in the head and ive never gotten a kill it always takes 2 to the head for me even if the target has a helmet or doesnt have one on.
It's one of the most terrible parts of the game.

The game isn't a sci-fi or something but each weapon have it's damage.normally a shotgun have to kill someone in less than 100m (at least ) with one Shot (or at least two for a game) but this game just made shotgun one of the most useless weapons i ever seen in any game.

I shot a NPC 5 times in the body with a shotgun from less than 10-15 m away to kill ! (and throws a grenade after the fourth shot as well)

I never was seen something like this.in other games for example Rising storm 2 as well you can kill someone with one shot with a shotgun from 100-150 m away !

Bullet is bullet it shouldn't have to be any difference between a AKM shot and SVD.when it hit somewhere on a person body it have to do same damage.the only difference have to be accuracy to make some guns better at a distance.

But in this game it seems that each gun have it's damage from it's price and they just have name from their own real models and nothing else..it's one of the reasons that FPS mode will not going to work with this game as well.
Uh Duh Mass Sep 10, 2017 @ 9:47am 
Originally posted by KratosIR:
It's one of the most terrible parts of the game.

The game isn't a sci-fi or something but each weapon have it's damage.normally a shotgun have to kill someone in less than 100m (at least ) with one Shot (or at least two for a game) but this game just made shotgun one of the most useless weapons i ever seen in any game.

I shot a NPC 5 times in the body with a shotgun from less than 10-15 m away to kill ! (and throws a grenade after the fourth shot as well)

I never was seen something like this.in other games for example Rising storm 2 as well you can kill someone with one shot with a shotgun from 100-150 m away !

Bullet is bullet it shouldn't have to be any difference between a AKM shot and SVD.when it hit somewhere on a person body it have to do same damage.the only difference have to be accuracy to make some guns better at a distance.

But in this game it seems that each gun have it's damage from it's price and they just have name from their own real models and nothing else..it's one of the reasons that FPS mode will not going to work with this game as well.
you can't go comparing Rising Storm to a game like this that is a 3rd Person games. thos 2 games are far from similar in any way other than they have guns in it. rising storm is was "sim" with realistic damage and bllistics. while this game is a Faction Based PVP fantasy game. this game doesn't even include bullet drop or speed, but you choose to see only the obvious shotgun range cliche. there's a lot that can be done, but ill keep saying it. It's an Early Access game that you Payed $10 for, there is more stuff coming. you should have done some research on the game befor buying it.
Last edited by Uh Duh Mass; Sep 10, 2017 @ 9:50am
Originally posted by Uh Duh Mass:
Originally posted by KratosIR:
It's one of the most terrible parts of the game.

The game isn't a sci-fi or something but each weapon have it's damage.normally a shotgun have to kill someone in less than 100m (at least ) with one Shot (or at least two for a game) but this game just made shotgun one of the most useless weapons i ever seen in any game.

I shot a NPC 5 times in the body with a shotgun from less than 10-15 m away to kill ! (and throws a grenade after the fourth shot as well)

I never was seen something like this.in other games for example Rising storm 2 as well you can kill someone with one shot with a shotgun from 100-150 m away !

Bullet is bullet it shouldn't have to be any difference between a AKM shot and SVD.when it hit somewhere on a person body it have to do same damage.the only difference have to be accuracy to make some guns better at a distance.

But in this game it seems that each gun have it's damage from it's price and they just have name from their own real models and nothing else..it's one of the reasons that FPS mode will not going to work with this game as well.
you can't go comparing Rising Storm to a game like this that is a 3rd Person games. thos 2 games are far from similar in any way other than they have guns in it. rising storm is was "sim" with realistic damage and bllistics. while this game is a Faction Based PVP fantasy game. this game doesn't even include bullet drop or speed, but you choose to see only the obvious shotgun range cliche. there's a lot that can be done, but ill keep saying it. It's an Early Access game that you Payed $10 for, there is more stuff coming. you should have done some research on the game befor buying it.

Agree about all you said and i'm not comparing this game with a simulator and it shoun't even have to be like that if no body can even step out of the base.i just say if a shotgun normally works like that this game at least have to do half of it's job.

It shouldn't have to be a gun in this game or at least it have to be a use for it.for now i didn't really found any use for a shotgun in this game !...it can't even kill an animal..or a pistol which can't even easily kill a naked guy.

GTA is 3rd person game as well (without bullet drop) but each weapon have it's own use in that game as well.or Dayz or escape from tarkov which both are survival as well.

In all those game if a bullet hit an enemy it will do a damage.any of those games don't really give a person a big point because of his weapons ! and someone with a pistol can easily kill an enemy even if he have M4 or AK with any kind of armor.

But just imagine a fight between two person one with M4 another one with pistol/shotgun in this game..there is almost zero chance to win for the guy with shotgun/pistol.

This things like giving the chance to win to everyone with any kind of items can make a game skill based.for now this game seems like a item based game more than a skill based game !
Mostly cartoonish looking games (and cash grab f2p games) putting this much difference between weapons and i can't remember any game that being like this.

The game is great itself but it can be better and this stuffs seems like a basic part of a game that developers mostly don't even try to change them..
Mr.L Sep 10, 2017 @ 11:13am 
Do u mean that HK sniper rifle does less damage then SVD, lol, really?
Uh Duh Mass Sep 10, 2017 @ 11:43am 
Originally posted by Mr.L:
Do u mean that HK sniper rifle does less damage then SVD, lol, really?
to the body yes, they're different ammunition types.
ie. a PM will not deal as much damage as a 1911. the pm fires 9mm while the 1911 fires ".45". that's why you can't reload a 1911 with the regualr Box ammo, cause the only ".45" ammo available is in the "1911 Magazine" in the shop or when it spawns.
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