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[Lion]

As a original backer of the game, someone after purchasing this game on the games website in 2018 attempted to steal my paypal information. I used guest checkout on paypal, using a secondary email not linked to my main paypal account. The developers and paypal would have been the only people who saw I guest checkout, after I got my CD key for the game, someone a week later attempted to create a paypal account using my email address. This game being the only thing I ever purchased on paypal. I spent over 3 hours with paypal and they at paypal informed me the data breach & account creation would have had to come from the other party involved.
According to Superboss games inc. They're registered as a Foreign For-Profit Corporation, registered in Texas. They claim to have 3 different US Addresses for the game. 1. In texas, 2. In New York, and 3 In Chicago. But not from the country or origin which claims where they were created. They do speak a lot of different languages according to their support page as well.

While only being a 2 man team, and outsourcing their finances (Probably where the leak came from).

[BondageKat]

Originally posted by Lion:

As a original backer of the game, this game attempted to steal my paypal information. I used guest checkout on paypal, using a secondary email not linked to my main paypal account. The developers of this game saw I used guest checkout, after I got my CD key for the game, the developers attempted to create a paypal account from their HQ. I spent over 3 hours with paypal and they were able to determine it was this game attempting to hack for my account data. Be warned.

bro, that has to be a complete fluke. thousands upon thousands of people have bought this game and the fact that only you are having this issue means your looking at this wrong.
Do you also believe that the government is hacking your email?

Edit: now that i re-read this, where the hell did you buy this "CD Key"? when buying through steam you just get the game. if you got it through a CD Key Reseller and had this happen, then you were just a dumbass.

Double Edit: after reading your profile, this post makes complete sense. Also side note, are the devs of this game not allowed to have a paypal account? "the developers attempted to create a paypal account from their HQ." you say this like its illegal.
And how did them making an account automatically mean they are hacking your data.
Paypal can only provide info on how to secure your account, they are not able to send data or even say "Superbossgames was hacking your paypal account".

[Define Brackish Water]

Intruder is currently only available to buy on Steam. When did you buy this game? It sounds like you've been scammed by a third-party.

Your story is confusing me. Was it a fraudulent PayPal charge or an attempt to hack your PayPal account? If your account's details were compromised then you might have entered your PayPal credentials into a phishing website.

Edit: I found your review. Quoting it here:

I got off the phone with paypal, this game developer, linked to their HQ attempted to steal my information and paypal account. I had to spend over 3 hours on the phone with paypal while they did a investigation and it showed the developer here attempted to steal my account information.

Posted March 1, 2019. Last edited January 14, 2023.

If anyone in the company who made this game attempted to steal from you then believe me that I care, but that is a high bar of proof that you're not meeting.

Because you mentioned that this happened over a call, I want to make sure you were not scammed by someone pretending to be from PayPal. There is currently a billion dollar criminal enterprise operating in the country of India to steal money via international phone scams. They've been hustling incredible numbers of people. I could name drop some red flags but I don't want to over-complicate this: How do you know that you were actually talking to someone from PayPal?

[Lion]

Originally posted by BondageKat:

Originally posted by Lion:

As a original backer of the game, this game attempted to steal my paypal information. I used guest checkout on paypal, using a secondary email not linked to my main paypal account. The developers of this game saw I used guest checkout, after I got my CD key for the game, the developers attempted to create a paypal account from their HQ. I spent over 3 hours with paypal and they were able to determine it was this game attempting to hack for my account data. Be warned.

bro, that has to be a complete fluke. thousands upon thousands of people have bought this game and the fact that only you are having this issue means your looking at this wrong.
Do you also believe that the government is hacking your email?

Edit: now that i re-read this, where the hell did you buy this "CD Key"? when buying through steam you just get the game. if you got it through a CD Key Reseller and had this happen, then you were just a dumbass.

Double Edit: after reading your profile, this post makes complete sense. Also side note, are the devs of this game not allowed to have a paypal account? "the developers attempted to create a paypal account from their HQ." you say this like its illegal.
And how did them making an account automatically mean they are hacking your data.
Paypal can only provide info on how to secure your account, they are not able to send data or even say "Superbossgames was hacking your paypal account".

When the game originally came out, you had to buy the game from the developers website using paypal to get a CD key for steam. a week after I purchased the game from their official website, someone attempted to to create a paypal account using my email address. I had to contact paypal and after a investigation from paypal, they found the account was created from the developers office location. They were even dumb enough to put their own phone number on the paypal account to bypass email verification.
Paypal was able to investigate the account and figure out the developers were creating multiple paypal accounts in their users names to see if they could steal data off the accounts.
Also, Superboss games runs a gambling website where it also steals users data using the same method. It has people add money to their accounts using paypal, then they attempt to create a false paypal account in a different country using your email address to find out your personal information.

[Lion]

Originally posted by Define Brackish Water:

Intruder is currently only available to buy on Steam. When did you buy this game? It sounds like you've been scammed by a third-party.

Your story is confusing me. Was it a fraudulent PayPal charge or an attempt to hack your PayPal account? If your account's details were compromised then you might have entered your PayPal credentials into a phishing website.

Edit: I found your review. Quoting it here:

I got off the phone with paypal, this game developer, linked to their HQ attempted to steal my information and paypal account. I had to spend over 3 hours on the phone with paypal while they did a investigation and it showed the developer here attempted to steal my account information.

Posted March 1, 2019. Last edited January 14, 2023.

If anyone in the company who made this game attempted to steal from you then believe me that I care, but that is a high bar of proof that you're not meeting.

Because you mentioned that this happened over a call, I want to make sure you were not scammed by someone pretending to be from PayPal. There is currently a billion dollar criminal enterprise operating in the country of India to steal money via international phone scams. They've been hustling incredible numbers of people. I could name drop some red flags but I don't want to over-complicate this: How do you know that you were actually talking to someone from PayPal?

Sadly I had to call paypal, and that's how I found it all out. Paypal didn't call me. I had to go though account recovery services and they eventually found out exactly where the account was made.

[Polybius]

Originally posted by Lion:

When the game originally came out, you had to buy the game from the developers website using paypal to get a CD key for steam. a week after I purchased the game from their official website, someone attempted to to create a paypal account using my email address. I had to contact paypal and after a investigation from paypal, they found the account was created from the developers office location. They were even dumb enough to put their own phone number on the paypal account to bypass email verification.
Paypal was able to investigate the account and figure out the developers were creating multiple paypal accounts in their users names to see if they could steal data off the accounts.
Also, Superboss games runs a gambling website where it also steals users data using the same method. It has people add money to their accounts using paypal, then they attempt to create a false paypal account in a different country using your email address to find out your personal information.

Youre lying. This game came out independently on the game website before it came over to steam at all. When you bought the game there were no steam keys to hand out....And it never made a paypal account for me on guest checkout. When the game came over to steam youd literally have a way to find a steam key on your account profile on their website. And thats about it.

I know this because you had to make an account on their website to make sure you had a login for proof of ownership. And i owned the game before it was approved for steam release.

[Lion]

Originally posted by Polybius:

Originally posted by Lion:

When the game originally came out, you had to buy the game from the developers website using paypal to get a CD key for steam. a week after I purchased the game from their official website, someone attempted to to create a paypal account using my email address. I had to contact paypal and after a investigation from paypal, they found the account was created from the developers office location. They were even dumb enough to put their own phone number on the paypal account to bypass email verification.
Paypal was able to investigate the account and figure out the developers were creating multiple paypal accounts in their users names to see if they could steal data off the accounts.
Also, Superboss games runs a gambling website where it also steals users data using the same method. It has people add money to their accounts using paypal, then they attempt to create a false paypal account in a different country using your email address to find out your personal information.

Youre lying. This game came out independently on the game website before it came over to steam at all. When you bought the game there were no steam keys to hand out....And it never made a paypal account for me on guest checkout. When the game came over to steam youd literally have a way to find a steam key on your account profile on their website. And thats about it.

I know this because you had to make an account on their website to make sure you had a login for proof of ownership. And i owned the game before it was approved for steam release.

I have the email with the game key. I purchased the game from their website using a paypal guest account. And a week later someone from the companies address made a account using my email on paypal to link the guest account with their account using my email. I'm not lying, I have the email receipts and emails from paypal a week later showing someone from the address made a paypal account using my email.
I even have the phone conversation that I submitted to valve from paypal with the emails showing so.
This thread is a warning, saying this is what happened to me. When I made a paypal purchase from them. I never purchased anything else from paypal.

[The Cloptologist]

What gambling site are you talking about? As far as I am aware they are very small indie developer.

[Polybius]

Originally posted by Lion:

I have the email with the game key. I purchased the game from their website using a paypal guest account. And a week later someone from the company's address made an account using my email on paypal to link the guest account with their account using my email. I'm not lying, I have the email receipts and emails from paypal a week later showing someone from the address made a paypal account using my email.
I even have the phone conversation that I submitted to valve from paypal with the emails showing so.
This thread is a warning, saying this is what happened to me. When I made a paypal purchase from them. I never purchased anything else from paypal.

You cannot purchase the game from their website anymore. When did you purchase the game? also, this company DOES NOT make paypal accounts on your behalf on a purchase. I will repeat this again because literally NO company can make an account on your behalf because:
1. you need to verify your own email address by logging into your e-mail. how can they make an account on your behalf without your email password? (they can't)
2. guest checkout on paypal offers to make an account for you, NOT THE GAME COMPANY.
3. the game key was sent to the email you provided when YOU created YOUR agent account back when the forums existed, (if you bought the game THAT long ago)
4. It could be someone else posing as the company or misleading you into thinking all of this just to get something from you.
5. show us the conversations in question? please provide that information.
6. This company literally has no ties to a gambling website. and if it does (allegedly), please tell us which company and we can verify that for ourselves.

[Lion]

Originally posted by Polybius:

Originally posted by Lion:

I have the email with the game key. I purchased the game from their website using a paypal guest account. And a week later someone from the company's address made an account using my email on paypal to link the guest account with their account using my email. I'm not lying, I have the email receipts and emails from paypal a week later showing someone from the address made a paypal account using my email.
I even have the phone conversation that I submitted to valve from paypal with the emails showing so.
This thread is a warning, saying this is what happened to me. When I made a paypal purchase from them. I never purchased anything else from paypal.

You cannot purchase the game from their website anymore. When did you purchase the game? also, this company DOES NOT make paypal accounts on your behalf on a purchase. I will repeat this again because literally NO company can make an account on your behalf because:
1. you need to verify your own email address by logging into your e-mail. how can they make an account on your behalf without your email password? (they can't)
2. guest checkout on paypal offers to make an account for you, NOT THE GAME COMPANY.
3. the game key was sent to the email you provided when YOU created YOUR agent account back when the forums existed, (if you bought the game THAT long ago)
4. It could be someone else posing as the company or misleading you into thinking all of this just to get something from you.
5. show us the conversations in question? please provide that information.
6. This company literally has no ties to a gambling website. and if it does (allegedly), please tell us which company and we can verify that for ourselves.

1. Paypal allows you to use phone verification to bypass email.
2. Guest checkout asks if you want to make a account, you dont have to.
3. I purchased the game in 2018.
4. Paypal representives from account services who I called from paypals own website told me the address of who created the account.

6. Theres a company called Superboss games casinos from the same time when superboss games says they were created in 2012. Intruder didn't come out until 2018
Which on their own wiki you can find out other games that they've attempted to create in the past also being sketchy from 2006, way before they even claim they were a company but still using the company tags of Superboss

[The Cloptologist]

After doing some casual research, I found that SuperBoss Games and Superboss Casino are two different companies. Games is a two person company based in Texas and Casino is based in the Netherlands. While the names are similar, there is no link between the two. If one is owned or is partnered with the other, there would be some information in the business listings.

With this and your disdain for posting any credible proof of this happening, I am of the mind your are either misunderstanding the situation that happened to you, or worse misrepresenting.

[Lion]

Originally posted by The Cloptologist:

After doing some casual research, I found that SuperBoss Games and Superboss Casino are two different companies. Games is a two person company based in Texas and Casino is based in the Netherlands. While the names are similar, there is no link between the two. If one is owned or is partnered with the other, there would be some information in the business listings.

With this and your disdain for posting any credible proof of this happening, I am of the mind your are either misunderstanding the situation that happened to you, or worse misrepresenting.

If they didn't create the account, then they had a data breach and didn't say anything or know about it when they were accepting orders on their website. But it would be really weird why paypal would be giving their address out as the place the account was created.

[The Cloptologist]

Erring on the side that you are misunderstanding, what happened to your paypal account. I very much doubt that SuperBoss Games had a data breach. Also, reviewing your earlier posts points me to the most likely answer being that your account information was stolen from a data breach that PayPal themselves had. PayPal is notorious for being hacked and having sloppy security.

As to why PayPal's customer support would have told you it was SBG, you have to understand when you are calling customer support, they may not have all the correct information in front of them. Also, when people are hacking accounts they go though multiple proxies. Someone from China may look like someone from Texas, and it takes a lot of investigation and time to find out the true location.

In addition, PayPal; like any payment processor is legally not to allowed share the details of investigation with customers, except for the details pertaining to that customer. If they did then customer support was trying to placate you or was in violation of federal laws.

Finally, it comes to the point of rationality. Why would a two man indie team be trying to hack into people's PayPal accounts? It makes no real sense, as if they were doing this to multiple people there would have been a big news story about it, when this was all going on.

[Ryguytheguy]

It seems that this thread has turned into speculation and is not going anywhere. Please reach out to the Superboss Games team directly for further assistance on your issue. You can find more help by creating a ticket in the discord at https://intruderfps.com/chat