keyboard customization

[credhc]

Hi, just tried the demo, now I'm interested in buying the game. But there's no customization available of the keyboard so far and I want to make sure that I can change the controls in the complete version. In particular the boost key. Possible?

[Paranoia]

No, the keybinds can't be changed in the full game, however it's still possible to achieve this using 3rd party software (search the forums for more info on those solutions).

[credhc]

Thanks, I'll check that. But wow, glad I asked, really, are we still in the 80s?

[Paranoia]

Originally posted by credhc:

But wow, glad I asked, really, are we still in the 80s?

Yeeah, that's why it's always a good idea to check the forums, so many games missing something basic/essential and there's no way to see it from the store page.

[Wylie28]

Originally posted by credhc:

Thanks, I'll check that. But wow, glad I asked, really, are we still in the 80s?

was a oversight in early development. Then it became too late to change. Its dozens of hours of work for the devs. Which doesnt justfy time spent on it when the users can spend 5 minutes using AHK or the user made programe to do it. Anyone not willing to spend 5 minutes on it, doesnt want it badly enough to justify it either.

[xstar960]

That said keyboard and mouse / controller rebinding would be nice to have.

[credhc]

They will do better the next time, besides that it's a great game.

[Wylie28]

Originally posted by xstar960:

That said keyboard and mouse / controller rebinding would be nice to have.

Like i said. Steam has it built in. (may not have said that bit). And you can use AHK or the user made program here somewhere in the steam forums for keyboard customization.

[eb]

I definitely would not have purchased the game if I was stuck with the horrible keyboard layout. The developers owe people that paid for this game to fix this now. Also, the average player has no idea how to use an outside program to change the key binding in a game. I never heard of this let alone know how to do it.

[Wylie28]

Originally posted by eb:

I definitely would not have purchased the game if I was stuck with the horrible keyboard layout. The developers owe people that paid for this game to fix this now. Also, the average player has no idea how to use an outside program to change the key binding in a game. I never heard of this let alone know how to do it.

They don't owe anyone anything. Your fault for not researching. And the average player, if it bothered them, will find solutions and come across AHK. OR the built in steam reconfiguration. Your ignorance is no ones fault but your own. You are an adult. You are responsible for yourself.

[Krull]

Originally posted by Wylie28:

Originally posted by eb:

I definitely would not have purchased the game if I was stuck with the horrible keyboard layout. The developers owe people that paid for this game to fix this now. Also, the average player has no idea how to use an outside program to change the key binding in a game. I never heard of this let alone know how to do it.

They don't owe anyone anything. Your fault for not researching. And the average player, if it bothered them, will find solutions and come across AHK. OR the built in steam reconfiguration. Your ignorance is no ones fault but your own. You are an adult. You are responsible for yourself.

You're coming off as a bit of a shill in some of your earlier posts in this thread. No game coding experience here, but plenty of experience coding Java, and I doubt controls rebinding would take them that long to implement. At the moment there's already 2 layouts, meaning all functions must already have the feature available unless they literally have a conditional statement handling what button every function should react on, which would be nothing less than stupid.
Assuming they chose the rational solution, all they have left is creating the environment in which you change the controls. As said, I have no video game experience, but plenty of layouting experience in Java. That would take me a maximum of 2 days, of which most of it would be relearning cause it's 2 years ago since I last did something with GUI. While they're at it, they should add a setting for chromatic abberation as well, which is like less than 30 minutes of work, cause the setting is already available in the engine.

It's hard to determine what's worth their time or not when there's no data to conclude on. Just like you said:

Originally posted by Wylie28:

Which doesnt justfy time spent on it when the users can spend 5 minutes using AHK or the user made programe to do it. Anyone not willing to spend 5 minutes on it, doesnt want it badly enough to justify it either.

... I could say that there would likely be less people refusing to buy or refunding the game if there was controls rebinding, meaning more money down their pockets.

I have to agree with some of the other users here that rebinding controls is a pretty essential feature in any game, just like FOV-sliders and the ability to turn off various cosmetic filters and effects like chromatic abberation, DoF, motion blur etc.

I hope the devs realize this for future titles as it's not so much about customization but more about availability. Colour blind options are also a Godsend but a bit of a niche compared to the others.

It's a great game, but some basic things are just straight out missing.

[credhc]

After all that time, I must say that their big mistake was the cam key that can be triggered by brake+steer right. The brake would have been far better on the zero of the num pad anyways. Or the right ctrl. Flattening a finger to use a key is never a good idea.

It would have also made more sense to swap the boost and powerup, provided that holding the pu key would autotrigger when it's full.

It's playable but adding useless troubles to the learning process.

[Wylie28]

Hardcoded values is exactly why they don't give key rebinding. Ive said it numerous times in this thread. Im not a shill. Im telling you what reality is. And why reality is the way it is. The realty? You. Are. Not. Getting. Keybinds. Why? Its not worth their time. YOU are not worth their time. And they have zero obligations to pretend otherwise.

So deal with it. EIther throw a fit like a 5 year old child and miss a great game you could be playing right now with the binds that you want. Or be the adult you are and spend 10 minutes using AHK or Steam to fix the problem. Literally like 8 people here have offered to write the scrips you need for you.

[Krull]

Originally posted by Wylie28:

Hardcoded values is exactly why they don't give key rebinding. Ive said it numerous times in this thread. Im not a shill. Im telling you what reality is. And why reality is the way it is. The realty? You. Are. Not. Getting. Keybinds. Why? Its not worth their time. YOU are not worth their time. And they have zero obligations to pretend otherwise.

So deal with it. EIther throw a fit like a 5 year old child and miss a great game you could be playing right now with the binds that you want. Or be the adult you are and spend 10 minutes using AHK or Steam to fix the problem. Literally like 8 people here have offered to write the scrips you need for you.

I understand your point. I apologize for calling you a shill.
I realize they just released a new game, and it's likely in their best interest to allocate resources there.
I can't quite fathom why they would ever hardcode controls in the first place, but so be it. I already played and enjoyed the game for more than 20 hours so far on a controller. I was merely adding my voice to the choir in the sense that I believe the things I mentioned are such essential features and that I sincerely hope they spend a little of their time on making sure they are available in future titles.
Regarding other people offering their help, I guess you're referring to other threads.

[Wylie28]

Originally posted by Krull:

Originally posted by Wylie28:

Hardcoded values is exactly why they don't give key rebinding. Ive said it numerous times in this thread. Im not a shill. Im telling you what reality is. And why reality is the way it is. The realty? You. Are. Not. Getting. Keybinds. Why? Its not worth their time. YOU are not worth their time. And they have zero obligations to pretend otherwise.

So deal with it. EIther throw a fit like a 5 year old child and miss a great game you could be playing right now with the binds that you want. Or be the adult you are and spend 10 minutes using AHK or Steam to fix the problem. Literally like 8 people here have offered to write the scrips you need for you.

I understand your point. I apologize for calling you a shill.
I realize they just released a new game, and it's likely in their best interest to allocate resources there.
I can't quite fathom why they would ever hardcode controls in the first place, but so be it. I already played and enjoyed the game for more than 20 hours so far on a controller. I was merely adding my voice to the choir in the sense that I believe the things I mentioned are such essential features and that I sincerely hope they spend a little of their time on making sure they are available in future titles.
Regarding other people offering their help, I guess you're referring to other threads.

Common oversight for first time games. Especially when you think its just going to be a prototype. Can't say ive never had to remove a bunch of hardcoded values when ive known better before. Or, maybe they have only made console games in the past? Such a thing isn't standard practice there.

And oh. Well yeah. I guess most people have gotten tired of keybind threads. Games been end of life over 2 years now anyway. But these people aren't hard to find here or on the discord.