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Its like children fightning about who's box is better.
Nobody goes around suing random people or companies, don't you worry.
But I hope they feel the responsibility that comes with the weight they have in the media and industry when their technical analysis falls short. And their community reacts as we saw.
Well, you just accused them of invoking fake news over your video game you colossal ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiot. Those two words alone damned your company and product more so than EG's video.
Good job, you might as well start looking for a new job.
That being said, I think 34BigThings's response to the situation was a bit harsh, calling them straight liars instead of just correcting the mis-information from the tech analysis. Possibly they feel that Digital Foundry's lackluster presentation of the game in general has caused a strong negative bias amongst non-players who may have otherwise bought the game and they're lashing out because of it.
So then don't threaten it.
The 'community' is laughing at you
This is called Lost-Profit-Damages. Which gives 34bigthings every right to sue if they see fit. DF made a mistake and they need to own up to it. Threating to sue is a perfectly reasonable way to ensure that happens. DF's occupation comes with the resonsibility to be accurate. Failure to do so, like in any other job, has consequences. DF have already admitted thier mistake and are redoing thier tests and writing a new article. Idk why you are jumping to thier defense when they themselves have admitted they screwed up. A screw up that does very real damage to another company. Business isnt a game.
If you have any idea about how law works, you would probably have guessed by now that such a lawsuit has no merit whatsoever, and I doubt it could even reach a court. Sue on what grounds? Have you even watched the video or read the article? DF took it down as a courtesy, apologized to the devs and acted professionally despite the continuous assault from these devs and the use of such language as "click-bait path, incompetent, pure liars, fake news" in their official response which is still up. The threatening by the devs to take legal action seem, in all honesty, to be an angry, impulsive reaction/emotional outburst in the face of some angry twitter posts by trolls and console fanboys on their official twitter page, or elsewhere. Did you see the twitter snapshot in the official response? The last one zoomed out? Who even takes those twits seriously? Console tug-of-war fanboy community is rampant across the internet, and 34bigthings are not the only devs coming under their radar for online harassment. It happens with almost any dev. The wise and professional thing to do was to clarify that DF is mistaken, contact DF and have them update the results - simple. But, no, they took it personally and decided to lash out at DigitalFoundry instead, all because some guy on twitter ruined their mood in the morning? Why not keep personal sentiments out of the professional world? That's not how the civil, professional world works. Did you read the language in their official response? It seems more like a diatribe, a butthurt rant than "official" anything.
The dev above calls them 'their' (as in DF's) community. Who told him that? Such fanboys exist with or without DigitalFoundry.
34bigthings are acting completely impulsively and very unprofessionally by repeatedly calling DigitalFoundry's honest error "pure, straight lies". Even after DigitalFoundry have publicly apologized to 34bigthings and have since pulled the video down, they are still insisting on their official response of calling out DigitalFoundry a liar, incompetent, fake news, click-baiter and what not. And, again, I watched the video in its entirety and read the article. Nowhere does DigitalFoundry assert that the game is 1080p, they only said they could not come across any higher pixel count than 1080p "so far in their testing", and "guessing maybe that's what it is". This is neither "misinformation" nor a "lie". These are words used by the overly reactive devs. If anything, I think DigitalFoundry have better grounds to take legal actions against them for falsely accusing them of "lying" and defaming their public image. But, DF are not going to do that of course. The world does not work like that. If it did, everybody would be throwing lawsuits at each other for the most trifling of reasons.
Anyway, it seems like the devs are calming down a bit, and not going to sue anyone for any reason. They removed the "legal action" part from the official response which is a good sign. And, I honestly hope they come to terms with DigitalFoundry and also take down the official response angry name-calling.
A lie is a false statement. Saying the game renders at 1080p when it uses dynamic resolution IS a false statement. And by extension a lie.
If someone, esepcially someone with the influence DF has, says something false about you. You would be, reasonably, angry. There is nothing wrong with that. The idea of proffesionalism is nothing but a pre concienved notion society has instilled in you. There is nothing objectively better about it. Nothing 34bigthings said about DF is vitriol and its all true. Unlike DFs claim. However this is irrelevant to the topic. You can spout on about it all you want. Its unrelated to the actual case. Stop being a sensitive child whenever someone says something you dont disagree with.
Then you end your entire unproffesonal rant, you claim DF should do the very same thing 34bigthings is trying to do. The thing you spent your first paragraph explaing why it wouldnt work. On top of that, there is a big difference, nothign 34 said about DF was false. When the same cannot be be true for DF.
If they thought they had any chance to make this claim, they wouldnt be admitting or correcting thier mistake.
I must ask, am i supposed to take you seriously? Your post is nothing but a big joke. You conclusion contradicts your entre claim.
Nope, DigitalFoundry did NOT say the game renders at 1080p and leave it at that. That's what the devs thought they said based on what some trolls/fanboys told them on twitter. In the original video DF said that, and I quote: "Judging from what I've seen so far, I am guessing maybe 1080p is as high as it can get." And, in the original article they said: "An interview with developer 34BigThings claims that the PS4 Pro version runs at checkerboard 4K with most of PC's epic settings enabled, while simultaneously claiming that Xbox One X would hand in native ultra HD with all visual presets ramped up to the max. That's an enticing prospect bearing in mind how beautiful the PC experience is, but all of our pixel counts resolve 1080p resolution only on both X and Pro consoles."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2018-redout-on-xbox-one-x-beaten-by-ps4-pro
The obvious implication here is that - there was supposed to be higher pixel counts, but it didn't show up in their radar. So, the game is most probably a native 1080p.
So, there you have it. They did not even, in the strict sense, "say" the game "renders at 1080p end of", let alone lying which is a deliberate act of conveying misinformation. Obviously, the fanboys by their very fanboy nature took it as a confirmed 1080p thing, which DF never claimed in the first place. So, maybe they should hunt down every fanboy and take legal actions against them instead?
Or, maybe they could say "hey, DigitalFoundry was being lazy with their reports, and their laziness caused fanboy attacks and it harmed us. So, we want to sue them for being lazy"? What's the law about being sloppy in a benchmark, or the law about taking how many samples to find better pixel counts? Lol, either way, I don't think its gonna fly in any court of law. Can't get more ridiculous.
Dynamic resolution has never any fixed number, nor any fixed upper or lower bounds. VGTech always state "they FOUND" this and that upper and lower bounds (and their video has the imgur of the samples where they counted pixels). They don't say "there are" this and that upper lower bounds. Maybe you will test today and you will find that in some very rare instances the game dropped BELOW 1080p which no tester ever found. Dynamic res. is variable. And, if a tester is sloppy enough, he/she could even fail to notice if there is any dynamic scaler at all. Sue them for their sloppyness? Oh, come on.
You can deny it all you want. Court cases based on this very thing are won all the time. You cannot just say whatever you want and get away with it. We dont live it betagamer world. What you think doesnt happen does not reflect in reality.
Let's sue them! How dare they not see the higher pixel! How dare they not be impeccable! Not their fault if some fanboys think they are impeccable. DF didn't instruct them to go out to the devs' twitter and harass them.
There is a difference between making an error in the emergency room/being neglectful and making error in a benchmark of a video game. Oh, the error triggered an angry fanboy flame war some of which reached the devs? It makes more sense to sue the fanboys for mishearing DF and escalating it then. Who is at fault more?
Yes, you don't think it will go to courts, and for obvious reasons. This can't get any more stupid that's why.
Sure, you can sue for all the stupid reasons and people do it all the time. But, do they fly? That's the question. I can sue you here for taking 20 minutes out of my life on steam forums too! Will it fly? Nope.