The usual reckless driving...

[Jobathan]

I was driving Jouko home from a seemingly great night out. I was busy trying to get the radio in the Hayosiko working in a corner and flipped the van. Jouko unlike myself didn't wear his seat belt (hence why I can't be held accountable) and subsequently went through the windshield.
To my surprise and amusement he was still making some drunken-sounds so i figured he just needed to "sleep it off" in the ditch. Besides, he was to heavy to be kidnapped in the back of the van.
The problem is that i haven't seen him since. No table at his house and no one to sell Kilju to. Did his hubris kill him or will he respawn/call again when he has had enough time to crawl back home?
Is he able to be permanently killed besides in the story, and if so can it be edited in msc editor?

[Tiretracker]

Recent update mentioned "Passengers can now be permanently killed in a wreck"

Since Jouko and grandma can already both die in other ways they have flags in the code for it. But I think Jouko was always programmed to sound asleep when he ragdolled, so he might have actually died.

I figured you'd see blood when that happened.

In MSC editor I suppose look for drunkendishere and see if its checked. If true, set it to false.
Might also check drunkstage and make sure its not a negative value.
Not sure how its programmed to kill him, since drunkendishere used to be just for when he hung himself on the bridge if you stole his money

[Noob]

Originally posted by Tiretracker:

Recent update mentioned "Passengers can now be permanently killed in a wreck"

Since Jouko and grandma can already both die in other ways they have flags in the code for it. But I think Jouko was always programmed to sound asleep when he ragdolled, so he might have actually died.

I figured you'd see blood when that happened.

In MSC editor I suppose look for drunkendishere and see if its checked. If true, set it to false.
Might also check drunkstage and make sure its not a negative value.
Not sure how its programmed to kill him, since drunkendishere used to be just for when he hung himself on the bridge if you stole his money

Drunkendishere is used for making him hanging off a bridge and that shouldn't happen if he died in a car crash, so I think that another variable is used for that (if there is one).

[Jobathan]

Thank you guys for the replies!
All the mentioned values seem to be correct in msc editor, and no blood was found when the unfortunate turn in multiple axis occurred.
I will continue to play a few more days and hope that the issue resolves it self. If in the mean time someone has an idea of what value could relate specifically to dead passengers, answers would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

[Tiretracker]

Another thing too, how far into his story arc did you get? How many times did you pick him up? Theres a stage where he moves out of his house in Loppe, during which he takes down his table and disappears, until he calls the player to help him move a bunch of boxes to Perajarvi.

[Jobathan]

Not far, this was the first time i picked him up in this save.

[Tiretracker]

The fact the table disappeared I think is the biggest indicator.
Troubling part is I went through the whole list of variables and couldn't find anything, unless a new variable is created upon his death.

Should probably suggest Topless add more visual feedback to that mechanic as well as patch out Jokke's default behavior of snoring if he's actually dead, as well as add the usual blood you can usually expect if you see someone die in the game.

Of the 3 possible passengers I think the only immortal one after the Dec 3rd update is Suski considering she's needed to finish the game (not to mention she survives all of Jani's daily wrecks) but even then I'm not sure.

Check the church graveyard I wonder if dead NPC's get a grave, or if thats only for player's permadeath deaths

[Noob]

I think only player character has a grave.

[mento44]

After some diging i tried to set "drunkstage" to 0 and "Movingjobstage" to 0 too. and voila hes back up and drinking