Why no Updates?

[Beesting]

Why has there been no updates for like 7 months

[AlexandROU]

No big Updates because TG is working at My Winter Car. MSC will have update but they won't include big changes (only minor changes and bug fixes).

[Aeternum]

get in experimental to get small updates per like 1 month

[Fredrik]

Originally posted by John:

pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ obvious that its hard for one man to get one game out fully released and start working on the other. its one man working on my summer car, no team, no help from anyone else, no nothing.

On the other hand, pretty dumb to start work on a new project before the last one is complete, especially considering noted circumstances. The excuse that it's only a single developer isn't very valid when he willingly juggles two projects.

[Coocumber]

Originally posted by Fredrik:

Originally posted by John:

pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ obvious that its hard for one man to get one game out fully released and start working on the other. its one man working on my summer car, no team, no help from anyone else, no nothing.

On the other hand, pretty dumb to start work on a new project before the last one is complete, especially considering noted circumstances. The excuse that it's only a single developer isn't very valid when he willingly juggles two projects.

I disagree, this game is like 95% finished with like 5% bug fixes and perfectly playable so I dont see why not create a winter sequel.

[ES TUO JUMALTEN JUOMA]

download beta update

[Legenda rajdowa]

Originally posted by Fredrik:

Originally posted by John:

pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ obvious that its hard for one man to get one game out fully released and start working on the other. its one man working on my summer car, no team, no help from anyone else, no nothing.

On the other hand, pretty dumb to start work on a new project before the last one is complete, especially considering noted circumstances. The excuse that it's only a single developer isn't very valid when he willingly juggles two projects.

Honestly TG has it better this way. He can work on MWC and let his players find bugs he can fix later on.
If he wouldent work on MWC we would get nothing in return and he would just have to wait adding last useless small features to MSC.

[meglon986]

Originally posted by Fredrik:

On the other hand, pretty dumb to start work on a new project before the last one is complete, especially considering noted circumstances. The excuse that it's only a single developer isn't very valid when he willingly juggles two projects.

I think the MSC is already complete.
The ending of the story has already been implemented.

I think the reason Toplessgun doesn't release MSC as an official version is that it's almost the same as the current Early Access version.

And in the four years since the release of MSC, TG has received and responded to bug fix requests from many users.

Bugs that haven't been fixed at this time can be imagined to be physically impossible or technically or mentally difficult for him.

Personally, there are no more bugs I would like him to fix.
Because it is MSC including that.
If MSC had no bugs, it would be a bit boring game.

If we wait for MWC to start after the perfect MSC is completed, MWC development will not start forever.
Because, There is no one who can make perfect things.

[Fredrik]

Originally posted by meglon986:

I think the MSC is already complete.
The ending of the story has already been implemented.

I think the reason Toplessgun doesn't release MSC as an official version is that it's almost the same as the current Early Access version.

And in the four years since the release of MSC, TG has received and responded to bug fix requests from many users.

Bugs that haven't been fixed at this time can be imagined to be physically impossible or technically or mentally difficult for him.

Personally, there are no more bugs I would like him to fix.
Because it is MSC including that.
If MSC had no bugs, it would be a bit boring game.

If we wait for MWC to start after the perfect MSC is completed, MWC development will not start forever.
Because, There is no one who can make perfect things.

No game is perfect and a release do not have to be, and it certainly do not mean it can be updated with serious bug fixes.

And it's a matter of principle. Besides, I responded to someone saying it's hard to work on two projects simultaneously, and it's a poor excuse.

I don't see providing a working product people paid for as something particularly commendable. We are customers after all.

Also, what kind of reasoning is that? It should be buggy? That's.. unconventional.

Originally posted by Legenda rajdowa:

Honestly TG has it better this way. He can work on MWC and let his players find bugs he can fix later on.
If he wouldent work on MWC we would get nothing in return and he would just have to wait adding last useless small features to MSC.

Nothing in return for what? You'll have to pay for the new game. The developer owes you nothing until that transaction has been made. As opposed to this game where we have bought it and are owed a fully released product, and work on another project prevents that.

Besides, unless the plan is to not release this game until the new game also exits early access the amount of work and time would be exactly the same.

[Legenda rajdowa]

Originally posted by Fredrik:

Originally posted by meglon986:

I think the MSC is already complete.
The ending of the story has already been implemented.

I think the reason Toplessgun doesn't release MSC as an official version is that it's almost the same as the current Early Access version.

And in the four years since the release of MSC, TG has received and responded to bug fix requests from many users.

Bugs that haven't been fixed at this time can be imagined to be physically impossible or technically or mentally difficult for him.

Personally, there are no more bugs I would like him to fix.
Because it is MSC including that.
If MSC had no bugs, it would be a bit boring game.

If we wait for MWC to start after the perfect MSC is completed, MWC development will not start forever.
Because, There is no one who can make perfect things.

No game is perfect and a release do not have to be, and it certainly do not mean it can be updated with serious bug fixes.

And it's a matter of principle. Besides, I responded to someone saying it's hard to work on two projects simultaneously, and it's a poor excuse.

I don't see providing a working product people paid for as something particularly commendable. We are customers after all.

Also, what kind of reasoning is that? It should be buggy? That's.. unconventional.

Originally posted by Legenda rajdowa:

Honestly TG has it better this way. He can work on MWC and let his players find bugs he can fix later on.
If he wouldent work on MWC we would get nothing in return and he would just have to wait adding last useless small features to MSC.

Nothing in return for what? You'll have to pay for the new game. The developer owes you nothing until that transaction has been made. As opposed to this game where we have bought it and are owed a fully released product, and work on another project prevents that.

Besides, unless the plan is to not release this game until the new game also exits early access the amount of work and time would be exactly the same.

But its still a new game that will make my moneys worth

[meglon986]

Originally posted by Fredrik:

No game is perfect and a release do not have to be, and it certainly do not mean it can be updated with serious bug fixes.

And it's a matter of principle. Besides, I responded to someone saying it's hard to work on two projects simultaneously, and it's a poor excuse.

I don't see providing a working product people paid for as something particularly commendable. We are customers after all.

Also, what kind of reasoning is that? It should be buggy? That's.. unconventional.

There is no principle anywhere in the world that you have to release what you have created first and then create the next one.
As for the reason, I'm not a developer, so I can't give an accurate answer, but as I mentioned earlier, it's already completed.

I haven't officially released the finished product, so I've never seen any complaints on this forum that MSC isn't worth the money.
Rather, I've seen a lot of comments that it's worth the money, even though it's Early Access.

And I think MSC is an unconventional game in the first place... Lol

I'm not going to attack you.
I think the great mods you create should be praised. :)

[GamePlay]

The game needs more than one arm, come on. What about all the cool things you can add just to name a few, syphon gas and a recent mod a picked up that should be in the game already is Preserve steering angle. You should hear your zipper just before you pee, dialtone for the phone so you dont have to run to the mail box to see if you paid the bill. speaking of mail box move it to my house.

[Chashmodai]

Originally posted by meglon986:

Originally posted by Fredrik:

On the other hand, pretty dumb to start work on a new project before the last one is complete, especially considering noted circumstances. The excuse that it's only a single developer isn't very valid when he willingly juggles two projects.

I think the MSC is already complete.
The ending of the story has already been implemented.

I think the reason Toplessgun doesn't release MSC as an official version is that it's almost the same as the current Early Access version.

And in the four years since the release of MSC, TG has received and responded to bug fix requests from many users.

Bugs that haven't been fixed at this time can be imagined to be physically impossible or technically or mentally difficult for him.

Personally, there are no more bugs I would like him to fix.
Because it is MSC including that.
If MSC had no bugs, it would be a bit boring game.

If we wait for MWC to start after the perfect MSC is completed, MWC development will not start forever.
Because, There is no one who can make perfect things.

It matters little whether you think the game is finished or not; it is still in Early Access - i.e. unfinished.

Starting a new game before finishing the previous Early Access project is not a very good look. I personally don't care, but I understand if other people find it strange.

[Chashmodai]

Originally posted by John:

Originally posted by Chashmodai:

Starting a new game before finishing the previous Early Access project is not a very good look. I personally don't care, but I understand if other people find it strange.

The game is basically done anyway

What do you mean by "basically done"? The game is still in EA so it clearly isn't finished.

[Midnight]

Originally posted by Chashmodai:

Originally posted by John:

The game is basically done anyway

What do you mean by "basically done"? The game is still in EA so it clearly isn't finished.

"This game is gearing towards final stages of the development and this will be one of the last major Changelogs. There will still be updates about small things; finalizing unfinished features, adding some various small stuff, and most importantly fixing as much bugs and annoyances as possible. Those things will be still seen first in Experimental Test Branch." literally on the last regular changelog

[Chashmodai]

Originally posted by Midnight:

Originally posted by Chashmodai:

What do you mean by "basically done"? The game is still in EA so it clearly isn't finished.

"This game is gearing towards final stages of the development and this will be one of the last major Changelogs. There will still be updates about small things; finalizing unfinished features, adding some various small stuff, and most importantly fixing as much bugs and annoyances as possible. Those things will be still seen first in Experimental Test Branch." literally on the last regular changelog

Thanks for proving my point. It isn't done.