Some annoying stuff, disappointed

[FRANKDREBIN]

Bought the game yesterday and I was very excited about it! Learnt how to pilot the bike, take a look on the map, died twice (one a hit and run and other with the bike) and even customized the game posters and flag. Went to play today again, but some stuff cooled down the enthusiasm I was with the game.

NO PAUSE
I know there´s a TON of topics about that but it´s absolutely ridiculous. No, I don´t wanna to download a mod. And no, that´s not "ultra-realism" (I will talk about realism later). I thought the ESC to menu paused the game, but no. Unfortunately I´m an adult male with responsabilities (a job, family) and only could play only a hour and half, so I just decided to blow out my save because I was too far from a bathroom to take a ♥♥♥♥/save the game. Never saw a game like this before.

THIRSTY
This is for me the most annoying stuff. I know there are plenty of water wells everywhere but is this game on Finland or in Saara Desert? Dude gets absolutely thirst piloting a boat for a couple of hours. It´s like a drinking water from sink/wells simulator. Not what I was expecting, no realism at all and the only thing that is "challenged" is the player patience.

EMPTY HOUSES
A lot of them with nothing to do, doors that doesn´t open, etc. I walked for kilometers, without finding nothing important, empty buildings with fake doors, so boring that I decided to jump in front of a car and die.

BUGS
Yeah I know the game is broken, EA, etc, the devs says exactly that on the first screen, but still...
today after the guy called me in the middle of the night I was looking at the map and tried to look it closer, sudenly I was through the wall and looking inside the kitchen, like I was a ghost inside a wall. It remembers playing Test Drive 3 back in 1994. Talking about old games, in the middle of the night with the lights on the FPS dropped a lot don´t know why, even because the object shadows were UGLY in squares like I was playing minecraft.

Then again this ghost glitch happened, but this time was much more annoying. I decided that I´d cross the lake in the boat and then use the bike, so I threw it on the boat and it seemed a great idea. However when I hit the beach I carried the bike on hands for a few dozen meters and put it where I believed was solid ground .No it wasn´t. The bike disappeared under the soil!! Was it a swamp? A quick sand? I had to lay down in the ground so I could see the bike. I picked it up a couple of times and it fell again. Sometimes it was half "buried", others only the tip of the handlebar would be visible.

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Even worse when I tried to turn it on, it wouldn´t work. The motor was on, but when I put 1st gear it died again. And now I´d have to walk more a few hundred meters carrying the bike, with my stress bar almost on red (this guy has SERIOUS problems, not only with thirsty but mental issues too) till the game "accepted" a place to deploy the bike and it works. So guess what that´s how another save died because I had more important things to do.

I´ve refunded a lot of games this year and this one would probably be another one but I´d played more than 3 hours and cannot do it anymore (it seemed a good game yesterday, not that much today). I´m not saying this is the worst ♥♥♥♥ I ever bought but I´ll probably wait MONTHS AND SEVERAL UPDATES to play it again. Plenty of potential, but absolutely raw. Too bad people aren´t sincere on their reviews and I had to play 4 hours to figure it out!!!

[Sparkz]

Wtf do you know this game is nearly out of early access???

[FRANKDREBIN]

Since the first release was FOUR YEARS AGO I thought it was a bit less crude

[Ayahuasca]

game will always be a pile of turd the dev has no intrest in it anymore.....it will always be a buggy mess.....i still play but i am no fanboy.....great game poorly executed on a outdated engine

[Midnight]

Originally posted by Ayahuasca:

the dev has no intrest in it anymore....

goes to show how little you know since he is currently trying to find all finishing touches and bug fixes that need to be added before releasing which can be a slow process, not to mention hes doing some prep work on the second game to be released at the same time

[FRANKDREBIN]

Originally posted by Midnight:

Originally posted by Ayahuasca:

the dev has no intrest in it anymore....

not to mention hes doing some prep work on the second game to be released at the same time

err... this is not great indeed...

should fix this one before releasing another... focus.... I know people need the money but I´ll probably not buy nothing again from them until they fix TONS of things on MSC... finish this job first ffs

[Evan]

Yeah there's no pause. I don't mind too much, I try to save when I can and am generally near the car so I can drive to the nearest toilet/outhouse. There are 5(?) outhouses around the map. One at the shop, mechanic, house, island, and the dump. It generally doesn't take too long to drive to one as you generally don't get very far from one. It's been mentioned here before, but I don't think it will come. Though I can see why it may be a concern.

Thirst/Hunger/Etc. I thought it was a bigger problem for the first couple days I played it. I actually disabled them (with msc editor) but I enabled them after a week or two. I don't mind the mechanics now, they're not that bad. I like to keep a beer in the car, drink pee, drink from sink when I get home/am near water well. A little bit of preparation to do stuff but it's not much IMO.

You mentioned walking/saving/thirst. I try not to walk from location to location generally. Walking takes long, is boring compared to driving, and increases thirst.

There are a lot of empty houses I agree. But I had fun playing 150+ hours, building the car, going to store/fleetaris, modifying car, rebuilding engine, making money, fishing, visiting grandma, driving the drunk home, rally/drag race, a couple achievements, etc. It did get a little boring recently as I had felt like I had done everything. There are others that have 3x as many hours as me though.

There are a couple bugs, nothing that I noticed that bothered me. Also the bug you talk about where you looked through the wall, did you press Q? You look forward by pressing Q, you can look out the window of your car or peak farther into the engine bay by pressing it. What you experienced was not a bug.

Also I think you drove into the swamp/mud area. The area is mud so players just don't drive through the forest/field to get everywhere in 1 minute with 0 risk of dying as opposed to the dirt roads.

I can see the reasons for not liking the game, I actually felt similar within the first day and had thoughts of refunding, but fortunately I didn't.

[MacFeely]

It's the ultimate Finnish simulator. You're not supposed to be out of the house all of the time, you need to chill in the sauna, cut some firewood. Go to the island Cabin and catch some fish, drink beer and listen to your boombox.

Import your own music and make the game your own. Take it slow. The car doesn't have to be built the first day, or even the first month.

I'm 360 hours in, I've started over from scratch probably 20 times by now, but I also play with permadeath turned on so I can get those achievements.

Once you get comfortable, try using MSC Editor, maybe turn off the thirst and stuff, again, make the game your own.

Don't forget: YOU DIDN'T PAY $60.00. YOU PAID $14.99.

[Midnight]

Originally posted by Thiago SB:

Originally posted by Midnight:

not to mention hes doing some prep work on the second game to be released at the same time

err... this is not great indeed...

should fix this one before releasing another... focus.... I know people need the money but I´ll probably not buy nothing again from them until they fix TONS of things on MSC... finish this job first ffs

hes not really doing it for the money to the best of my knowledge, mostly as a hobby but with the money as a bonus and thats why this game is so great, its not restricted by having to make everyone happy the dev does whatever he wants which usually ends up making the game super punishing but not necessarily unfair since you can avoid all deaths as long as you know what their causes are and i havent really come across a super ridiculous amount of bugs in my 1200 hours of playtime

[FRANKDREBIN]

Originally posted by Evan:

There are a couple bugs, nothing that I noticed that bothered me. Also the bug you talk about where you looked through the wall, did you press Q? You look forward by pressing Q, you can look out the window of your car or peak farther into the engine bay by pressing it. What you experienced was not a bug.

Yeah I pressed Q, but I may say it was a bug indeed because I was looking through a solid wall anyway.

Originally posted by Evan:

Also I think you drove into the swamp/mud area. The area is mud so players just don't drive through the forest/field to get everywhere in 1 minute with 0 risk of dying as opposed to the dirt roads.

Less bad it was really a swamp, bug still ugly anyway

Originally posted by madcapjoe49:

It's the ultimate Finnish simulator. You're not supposed to be out of the house all of the time, you need to chill in the sauna, cut some firewood. Go to the island Cabin and catch some fish, drink beer and listen to your boombox.

Import your own music and make the game your own. Take it slow. The car doesn't have to be built the first day, or even the first month.

I'm 360 hours in, I've started over from scratch probably 20 times by now, but I also play with permadeath turned on so I can get those achievements.

Once you get comfortable, try using MSC Editor, maybe turn off the thirst and stuff, again, make the game your own.

Don't forget: YOU DIDN'T PAY $60.00. YOU PAID $14.99.

I didn´t ever dream about building the car yet. I was thinking about learning how to live, how to make jobs, buy food, live over a month and MAYBE then trying to build the car. I´m not into building stuff TBH. I´d never buy Car Mechanic Simulator. I bought MSC because of the survival thing, and yeah, drinking (not every 5 minutes) and driving and stuff. The amount of bugs scared me a bit tho.

Forgot to mention that I saw this guy walking near a plantation. I swore at him but he didnt give a toss or looked at me, like he was in a trance. Then I ran till him and punched him, he fell and disappeared! Looked really weird like an unfinished game.

But I got your point, as I said before its not a bad game. But I wish there was less bugs and more fun right at the start.

[FRANKDREBIN]

Originally posted by Midnight:

i havent really come across a super ridiculous amount of bugs in my 1200 hours of playtime

I counted at least half dozen in 3.7 hours of gameplay. Maybe I´m very unlucky

[FRANKDREBIN]

but hey, don´t want to disrespect your game.
Saw it has a solid community
Tons of player with hundreds of hours played - that counts more to me than any review.
I´ll give it a chance when I have more free time. One can change his mind.

[Midnight]

Originally posted by Thiago SB:

but hey, don´t want to disrespect your game.
Saw it has a solid community
Tons of player with hundreds of hours played - that counts more to me than any review.
I´ll give it a chance when I have more free time. One can change his mind.

and honestly its not a game for everyone, its targeted at a pretty specific group so not everyones gonna enjoy it

[Lorenzo_BR]

Dude, none of the glitches you describe are glitches. You expect the moped to move in a swamp? And no, it's not a glitch that you can lean through stuff. It's one of the most useful features of the game for me! I often will lean through things to look behind them.

For thirst, i don't get your issue. It doesn't go up that quickly. With any of the game's vehicles, you can make it to a well in time (or carry a beer case if it's not the moped). I guess if you run all the time, it'd go up pretty fast... Since you can't seem to use any vehicle, that'd explain it, i guess. Try the tractor, it's slow but super easy to drive. Read the wiki if you can't figure out how to start it.

And yes, the lack of pausing is annoying sometimes, but this is a game you have to play in bursts of undivided attention. Once you get the wristwatch, you can time your saves so they don't shoot you too far forward in time (saving moves time to the following even hour, save closer to it to maximize in game time). By saving often and efficiently, if you need to get up, you can quit without saving without loosing too much progress.

And yes, of course houses are mostly empty, why would every house be used? You don't interact with everyone in real life. And hell, a large amount of them are actually used, there are 5 which have sewage wells, one where you can deliver firewood, 2 where Jokke can live (he moves during the storyline), one where you can pick up Suski from, one where Uncle Kesseli lives, one where your grandma lives, one is your parent's house, one where you can play ventti, another where Teimo lives, one isTohvakka's farm, one is your parent's island cabin, and one is the groundskeeper's shed. Yes, there's filler homes that you don't interact with, that makes sense, but you actually have interaction with a surprising amount of houses.

Yes, this game is challanging and it's got an annoying learning curve. I recommend backing up your save file and not actually respawn at the church, instead just reload your save and try again until you succeed at doing what you're trying to do. First learn the map, learn how to do jobs to survive, and how to reliably get around. Don't even try to build the car yet. Then, after you're functioning, you can build the car following some guide. After you've got it, it's like riding a bike, you can do it all again easily!

Also, download the save editor. It can make life easier if you do suffer from a bug like loosing an item despite it being inside a vehicle (rarely happens, but it CAN happen) and want to teleport it to you. You can also edit your stats if you think you're going to die (or edit the rate at which they go up if it's really that annoying). It's a very useful tool, nearly essential. It also allows you to backpedal time if you are rushing to a toilet to save but get there like 5 in game minutes too late. I usually just save and rewind time so it spawns me at the time i saved instead.

[BrackObama2]

Yea this game is not for everyone. It's not great, but it's not terrible either. There are some flaws, there are some thing I (somewhat of a fan of this game) would like to see changed as well, but in overall it's not as bad and hard as it looks like from what you have said. It requires some time for player to get familiar with the game, at first, back in 2016, I struggled with it a lot, once I understood how it works, how to use this and that, it became too easy.

Anyways I'm here not to say that you are wrong, it's just that every game targets certain type of audience, someone likes it, someone hates it. Look at games like Dota2 or League of Legends, thousands of people invested half of their lives into those games, but personally I hate them more than anything else. Same with MSC, it's a bit different game.

[Legenda rajdowa]

Originally posted by lorenzobolla:

Dude, none of the glitches you describe are glitches. You expect the moped to move in a swamp? And no, it's not a glitch that you can lean through stuff. It's one of the most useful features of the game for me! I often will lean through things to look behind them.

For thirst, i don't get your issue. It doesn't go up that quickly. With any of the game's vehicles, you can make it to a well in time (or carry a beer case if it's not the moped). I guess if you run all the time, it'd go up pretty fast... Since you can't seem to use any vehicle, that'd explain it, i guess. Try the tractor, it's slow but super easy to drive. Read the wiki if you can't figure out how to start it.

And yes, the lack of pausing is annoying sometimes, but this is a game you have to play in bursts of undivided attention. Once you get the wristwatch, you can time your saves so they don't shoot you too far forward in time (saving moves time to the following even hour, save closer to it to maximize in game time). By saving often and efficiently, if you need to get up, you can quit without saving without loosing too much progress.

And yes, of course houses are mostly empty, why would every house be used? You don't interact with everyone in real life. And hell, a large amount of them are actually used, there are 5 which have sewage wells, one where you can deliver firewood, 2 where Jokke can live (he moves during the storyline), one where you can pick up Suski from, one where Uncle Kesseli lives, one where your grandma lives, one is your parent's house, one where you can play ventti, another where Teimo lives, one isTohvakka's farm, one is your parent's island cabin, and one is the groundskeeper's shed. Yes, there's filler homes that you don't interact with, that makes sense, but you actually have interaction with a surprising amount of houses.

Yes, this game is challanging and it's got an annoying learning curve. I recommend backing up your save file and not actually respawn at the church, instead just reload your save and try again until you succeed at doing what you're trying to do. First learn the map, learn how to do jobs to survive, and how to reliably get around. Don't even try to build the car yet. Then, after you're functioning, you can build the car following some guide. After you've got it, it's like riding a bike, you can do it all again easily!

Also, download the save editor. It can make life easier if you do suffer from a bug like loosing an item despite it being inside a vehicle (rarely happens, but it CAN happen) and want to teleport it to you. You can also edit your stats if you think you're going to die (or edit the rate at which they go up if it's really that annoying). It's a very useful tool, nearly essential. It also allows you to backpedal time if you are rushing to a toilet to save but get there like 5 in game minutes too late. I usually just save and rewind time so it spawns me at the time i saved instead.

this pretty much
Your paying 14,99. Do you expect this game to be the best new ubisoft hit?