how to drift the satsuma

[notaterrorist *******]

well i know how to but how do i controll it while doing it i mostly end up spiining out or cant predict how the cars gonna react

[s-d]

So you're trying to drift with a FWD car..?

[BrackObama2]

Sooo... It's a FWD car, you know. I saw someone "sliding" around the airfield with Satsuma without rear suspension, try that if you really need it.

[Sigo]

Know the difference between drifting and sliding. Taking a FWD car and spinning it uncontrollably is as close to drifting as doing 55 in a 50 zone is to racing - nowhere near.

Taking above into account you cannot drift the Satsuma.

[Zip]

You can drift but you can’t maintain the line. Normally in a drift you have the front which ship the car and the rear which spins. In a fwd car you can’t spin the rear wheel cuz the Datsun 100a is an fwd model

[Henmond]

Glad to see you have returned to the forums

[Simon said EAT DUST PLAYER_1 !]

those that define "drifting" as accelerating from the beginning of a slide through to the slide's end will rightfully claim that sliding a fwd-car cannot be called drifting.

On the other hand: The Japanese have adopted FWD Key-car sliding on water-lubricated hard-rubber loops mounted to the back tyres. They call that form of competetive figure-skating "drifting" as well.

Not many cheap and cheerful makes and models left in current production that are manual and RWD. Go figure.

[dezzier]

You physically cannot drift a FWD car.

Powersliding / handbrake turns are perfectly possible though, but maintaining a powerslide for more than one corner is still next to impossible.

I'm questioning how you get a FWD car to spin out when you have the front wheels recieving power which counteracts any rear slippage from actually pivoting the car body.

[Simon said EAT DUST PLAYER_1 !]

Originally posted by Dayz Me Rollin':

You physically cannot drift a FWD car.

Powersliding / handbrake turns are perfectly possible though, but maintaining a powerslide for more than one corner is still next to impossible.

You need some very specific circumstances – an artificial environment with not too much elelvation-changes and next to no grip at the back wheels – plus some extra sensetive control as well as planning-ability to pull off successive inertia-skids. Can be done but is not exactly natural or easy. And no, I would not call it "drifting" in a traditional sense of the term.
I would not shy away from calling it "fwd-drifting" though since prolonged, successive slides with smooth and seamless transitions are part of the deal resembling and crossing over with many practical aspects of what drifting is about. Absolute beginners need not apply, either.

I'm questioning how you get a FWD car to spin out when you have the front wheels recieving power which counteracts any rear slippage from actually pivoting the car body.

Well, with balancing enginge-pull as well as engine-push with the vehicles inertia, keeping the back end loose to one side it is doable in a controlled environment. Should ToplessGun add some back-wheelhouse water-spray, extra-slidey tyres for the back-wheels and a near-level, japanese-style karting/drifting-track, I could see this happening – should the physics-engine allow for such an edge-case to perform as expected. Could very well be a computational problem reaching outside it's useful range of application.

[Niveki]

Originally posted by notaterrorist:

well i know how to but how do i controll it while doing it i mostly end up spiining out or cant predict how the cars gonna react

You can only drift on the handbrake and at crossroads, but the drift is interrupted because the car does not come out of the rear, and the fact that the car is front-wheel drive stabilizes the car. That's why many cars use front-wheel drive, for safety in the corners, getting out of the way is better than driving out of the rear. So even by placing slick tire on the rear wheels the drift will be flawed.

If you insist on making the perfect drift, just install MSTuner and put the Satsuma RWD and be happy.

[s-d]

Well you can always put the handbrake on, and rev the sh-t out of it in front of the store; the real amis way.

[Simon said EAT DUST PLAYER_1 !]

Originally posted by Niveki:

Originally posted by notaterrorist:

well i know how to but how do i controll it while doing it i mostly end up spiining out or cant predict how the cars gonna react

You can only drift on the handbrake and at crossroads, but the drift is interrupted because the car does not come out of the rear, and the fact that the car is front-wheel drive stabilizes the car. That's why many cars use front-wheel drive, for safety in the corners, getting out of the way is better than driving out of the rear. So even by placing slick tire on the rear wheels the drift will be flawed.

the main reason for today's car-industry to prefer the FWD layout is cost. Cheaper to manufarture, warranty and repair as well es scale across multiple sizes of vehicles (see e.g. VW's "MQB"-platform. Marketing however prefers to tell the only partially true tale of safety concerns.

Most developed markets nowadays insist on new car models to integrate working and certified electronic stability management (automated independant brake-vectoring) negating and/or overshadowing most of the perceived-as "easier-to-drive" natural handling characteristics of FWD-vehicles

If you insist on making the perfect drift, just install MSTuner and put the Satsuma RWD and be happy.

nice mod, but feels "wrong" kind-of

[notaterrorist *******]

Originally posted by Henmond:

Glad to see you have returned to the forums [/quoteglad im missed :D nice to see your back replying to my fourm

[notaterrorist *******]

i see some people saying that i need some kinda gripless tires at the back if im reading into it correctly so if i wore out the back tires but had the front ones ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ brillient would it help ?