So about car accidents/killing ai drivers

[Tiretracker]

Been a little paranoid since the recent update where you will now go to jail for running over people, and killing drivers in wrecks.

-Crashing with (killable) AI drivers so that they die is an instant five (5) day sentence

The problem lies with the fact that the city is full of people who just wander the highways like zombies, theres even one in the back roads for no reason. I've almost hit 4 people on my way to buy gas, one being of course the Green Car guy.

I've had many wrecks with the Green fiat guy and have survived a couple of them, but now I"m going to jail because he's drunk?

So how does it work? I'm sure the implementation arose from people using the Gifu to butcher people but what about a legit accident?

You're in your car. Doing the speed limit. Wearing your seatbelt.

Suddenly a car clears the hill in front of you and you somehow manage to survive the wreck but he dies. Does that mean you're going to jail?

Lets say you're parked on the roadside and the AI sends the yellow car into your parked Gifu like he has done many times and dies. Am I going to jail for that?

Its pouring down rain at midnight. A man walking in the middle of the highway for no reason gets hit by your car.

Are the police going to show up and arrest you because of his stupidity?

Meanwhile if YOU get hit by a car the newspaper says they never catch the guy. So what are the odds.

[Evan]

I don't mind getting jail sentence for killing people, but I don't understand the jail sentence for Pena. I think maybe it could be shortened to 1 day because he is drunk & didn't have a seatbelt, & it wasn't our fault.

[Azzy]

that's why it's 5 and not 10 to kill pena

[Evan]

Originally posted by Azzy:

that's why it's 5 and not 10 to kill pena

Oh I thought it was normally 5 & not 10. That's good that it's less than normal. Do you get time for killing Jani & is it 10?

[Azzy]

i'm not sure

"Well the car accident could be seen as violation of both drivers, so the responsibility is split between the two. So I thought giving half the penalty. Generally also you probably get smaller sentence for car accident kill than manslaughter kill."

[Falski]

But seriously this car accident and jail mechanism is a total wreck. It just screws you over without checking who's at fault. I mean come on a few basic checks like whose travelling faster, whether the player was stationary on the side of the road, whether the player's car collided with the victim's car and whether the ai was wearing seatbelts and following the speedlimit while staying on the right side of road would definitely help but no the game just checks if you are 8m away from the victim's head instead.

[Falski]

Originally posted by Evan:

Originally posted by Azzy:

that's why it's 5 and not 10 to kill pena

Oh I thought it was normally 5 & not 10. That's good that it's less than normal. Do you get time for killing Jani & is it 10?

You get 5 days for killing any person in a vehicle. Its 10 days if the person was on foot instead.

[timppakiller]

i think they should remove the penalty it was just fun to drive over every npc that came in your way...

[Misery1ndex]

all the killable npc's are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ anyways who break the law without any consequences. not very realistic.

I'm paranoid of the guy in the bright green car who wont even switch lanes to pass you, but instead plow right into you if your going slower than him

[Hoxtalicous]

Isn't this how it works in real life? If you're in a car accident and the other person dies you get manslaughter?

[Manwith Noname]

In the real world, we have systems to determine who was at fault and how irresponsible their actions were which determine the severity of their punishment, if any.

In game, it doesn't care about any of that.

[Hoxtalicous]

Originally posted by Manwith Noname:

In the real world, we have systems to determine who was at fault and how irresponsible their actions were which determine the severity of their punishment, if any.

In game, it doesn't care about any of that.

I know the length of the sentence can change but don't you still get charged for manslaughter?

[Manwith Noname]

Manslaughter is unintentionally killing someone through lack of foresight. You will not be charged with manslaughter for sitting in your car while some idiot crashes in to you and dies because they are drunk and not wearing a seatbelt. This is what most people are complaining about.

[Hoxtalicous]

Originally posted by Manwith Noname:

Manslaughter is unintentionally killing someone through lack of foresight. You will not be charged with manslaughter for sitting in your car while some idiot crashes in to you and dies because they are drunk and not wearing a seatbelt. This is what most people are complaining about.

Oh okay, makes sense.

[Misery1ndex]

It's like the guy who drives the yellow car. He crashed into me head on when i was in the van heading to perajarvi. he crossed over into my lane to get past one of the trucks that drives down the highway, since he crossed lanes illegally into oncoming traffic, i shouldnt have gone to jail for that, to be fair i should've died horribly but all i got was a broken windshield lol

[Tiretracker]

Originally posted by Manwith Noname:

Manslaughter is unintentionally killing someone through lack of foresight. You will not be charged with manslaughter for sitting in your car while some idiot crashes in to you and dies because they are drunk and not wearing a seatbelt. This is what most people are complaining about.

One of my main concerns is with Pena as he's among the #1 cause of car accidents in the m game for even good drivers.

How is colliding head on with a drunk driver on a low-visibility dirt road lack of foresight?

I think the mechanic needs to be revised tenfold.

For example, the one vehicle you have an unfair chance of surviving a car wreck is the Gifu.

I say make the manslaughter carwreck mechanic apply strictly to the Gifu while running walking over folks applies to any car,
BUT add AI avoidance bounds for ridiculous walker pathing such as the middle of the highway. There's plenty of reasons to be crossing the dirt roads and city streets in town, but not the highway.