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Toplessgun 11. juni 2018 kl. 6.39
Any Logitech G29 Driving Force users?
Do you have a functioning force feedback in the game? If you DO, what Windows configuration (32 or 64bit, which OS version) are you running?
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FYO T0X1K 14. juni 2018 kl. 18.25 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Toplessgun:
I just unboxed brand new G29 and plugged it in. Downloaded and installed Logitech Gaming Software and made a Profile for MSC (not sure if required...). I was using PS4 mode.

The FFB works just like it is supposed to. I tested with both 64 and 32 bit versions of the game. My OS is Windows10.

So from this experience I can't really tell you what is going on if you can't get the FFB to work. It might be Win10 update issue (as someone mentioned) or driver error etc.

This should apply to G920 wheel as well as I believe the internals are the same with G29.
I've been playing MSC with keyboard and mouse. I've never had a wheel, if you want to get rid of yours, i would be willing to purchase it off you.
[FYO]dvm28bp 14. juni 2018 kl. 18.32 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Toplessgun:
I just unboxed brand new G29 and plugged it in. Downloaded and installed Logitech Gaming Software and made a Profile for MSC (not sure if required...). I was using PS4 mode.

The FFB works just like it is supposed to. I tested with both 64 and 32 bit versions of the game. My OS is Windows10.

So from this experience I can't really tell you what is going on if you can't get the FFB to work. It might be Win10 update issue (as someone mentioned) or driver error etc.

This should apply to G920 wheel as well as I believe the internals are the same with G29.
I've never tried MSC with a wheel, had opportunities to but i'f its good on wheel hell I'd love to get one and try er out
MSC PRO 14. juni 2018 kl. 19.52 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Barry @Just Gonna send It:
No force feedback with my Logitech Driving Force EX. Win 10 64bit
If Xpadder is running (I use it to map important keys like M to my wheel) sometime if I Alt-Tab out of the game and back in FB works.
As the {G29 and G920} use an entirely different set of drivers and "profiler-software" compared to the older generation of
{ G25 / G27 / DF-GT }
you mileage may vary.

Disclaimer: this is some general information for new wheel-users intended to clear a few things up. Generally targeted at logitech-users. But I tried to keep it interesting for other wheels, as well.

In the "old days" (former G25-user here), the "profiler" was an auto-start app allowing for button-remapping and assigning, plus adjusting artificial, canned driver-side effects like "constant spring" (imitation of rubber-cord self-centering), dampening (additional friction), spring-effects - which honestly had to be turned off / zero-ed in order to not interfere with any worthwhile, realistic simulator. Also the "overall-forces" setting messed with signal-throughput big-time, like pushing and pulling tone-curves on an image-file. Used to run my G25 at about 85% setting to simply avoid top-end clipping driver-side after testing my wheel-response with the iRacing test-tool that leaked into the community (see racedepartment dot com for further info on that).

Also the motor-response in general was quite zigg-zaggy and overall very much non-linear (some of which due to the straight-cut gear-design of the G25, and I guess in part due to wear). So I later used a LUT plugged into Assetto Corsa generated from the read-out of the test-tool mentioned earlier. What a difference that made!

From what I read and hear about, the current generation Logitech wheels behave much more linear in their signal-response and the driver did away with the additional canned effects, originally intended for arcade-style racing games. Let's face it: early consumer wheels were designed for the masses, and the masses were mostly still playing the fast-food variety of racing-games, the type that looks the best in screenshots and pre-cooked cut-scenes.

Anyway: what I experienced when using the G25 in Windows-XP and later Windows 7/64 is: The "profiler"-part of the driver-package was unrealiable in it's function. Some games were cool with profiles, some were not. So the easy way out is reaching for the system-tray icon (should you still run a G25, G27, DF-GT) and closing the background process for good. You can then still make "global" driver-adjustments through the system-settings dialogue once the wheel is plugged in and finished running through calibration.

In my experience, making adjustments to those settings is to be done BEFORE you start/run your game! ALT-tab'bing out of the game and adjusting driver-settings on-the-fly usually results in loss of FFB for that already running game-instance. So this is another point-of failure you might already have experienced. This behaviour is consistent across wheel-makes btw as it happens in exactly the same way with my current Thrustmaster wheel.

Moral of the story is: know your gear there is no short-cut!
Sist redigert av Simon said EAT DUST PLAYER_1 !; 15. juni 2018 kl. 8.28
limited 15. juni 2018 kl. 6.03 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Toplessgun:
I just unboxed brand new G29 and plugged it in. Downloaded and installed Logitech Gaming Software and made a Profile for MSC (not sure if required...). I was using PS4 mode.

The FFB works just like it is supposed to. I tested with both 64 and 32 bit versions of the game. My OS is Windows10.

So from this experience I can't really tell you what is going on if you can't get the FFB to work. It might be Win10 update issue (as someone mentioned) or driver error etc.

This should apply to G920 wheel as well as I believe the internals are the same with G29.

Well, as i told you in Gmail, i'm using Windows 7. It might be that i need to upgrade it to Windows 10.
Opprinnelig skrevet av nanithehell:
Opprinnelig skrevet av Toplessgun:
I just unboxed brand new G29 and plugged it in. Downloaded and installed Logitech Gaming Software and made a Profile for MSC (not sure if required...). I was using PS4 mode.

The FFB works just like it is supposed to. I tested with both 64 and 32 bit versions of the game. My OS is Windows10.

So from this experience I can't really tell you what is going on if you can't get the FFB to work. It might be Win10 update issue (as someone mentioned) or driver error etc.

This should apply to G920 wheel as well as I believe the internals are the same with G29.

Well, as i told you in Gmail, i'm using Windows 7. It might be that i need to upgrade it to Windows 10.
I sure hope you are talking tongue-in-cheek, here!
There is literally no valid reason to abandon ship until mid-2020 unless you really WANT to (play Windows-Store(tm) exclusive Dx12-only titles).
djpudz 15. juni 2018 kl. 7.02 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Toplessgun:
Do you have a functioning force feedback in the game? If you DO, what Windows configuration (32 or 64bit, which OS version) are you running?

FFB works for me but only when used with logitech gaming software and changing settings under the G29 tab to 'allow game to adjust force settings'
Also under car controls in game i need to select invert or steering feels weird

I am using windows 10 pro x64 version 1803

EDIT: setting on wheel is on PS4 mode (not sure if it makes a difference)
Sist redigert av djpudz; 15. juni 2018 kl. 7.04
limited 15. juni 2018 kl. 8.25 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Simon said DIE ♥♥♥♥♥!:
Opprinnelig skrevet av nanithehell:

Well, as i told you in Gmail, i'm using Windows 7. It might be that i need to upgrade it to Windows 10.
I sure hope you are talking tongue-in-cheek, here!
There is literally no valid reason to abandon ship until mid-2020 unless you really WANT to (play Windows-Store(tm) exclusive Dx12-only titles).

Sorry, but this is my ultimate favourite game and i need the FFB to work in this game.
MicroKORGI 15. juni 2018 kl. 8.52 
It is a little wonky, I've got a Thrustmaster TS-PC and the bumps feel really weak. I can't find a good middle ground where the steering isn't too stiff but the feel of the ground is still present. It'd be interesting if you could get someone involved in the coding process to write a FFB program that's better than the current one.
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Opprinnelig skrevet av Simon said DIE ♥♥♥♥♥!:
I sure hope you are talking tongue-in-cheek, here!
There is literally no valid reason to abandon ship until mid-2020 unless you really WANT to (play Windows-Store(tm) exclusive Dx12-only titles).

Sorry, but this is my ultimate favourite game and i need the FFB to work in this game.
Just want to answer to you that I clearly hear your pain. I would much rather offer a solution as to right the situation without you having to wipe and replace your working install, since my OCD figures there has to be a reason within reach of logical deduction for this not to be working.

Have you tried all available points of failure? (in-game: turning off steering-help, toggling ffb "on" in-game, adjusting the signal strength; selecting the right mode on the wheel-base --I believe Logitech tells PC-users to use ps4-mode or do I have that wrong? Funny enough thrustmaster's windows-drivers want their wheels to be set to ps3-mode)
And of course did you try to use the wheel inside msc after closing the profiler-process (I believe they (Logitech) still keep that tradition with the current wheels, correct me if I am wrong) and just using bare-bones global settings?
Not trying to make fun of you, since I know from experience that a) this game's wheel- and wheel-ffb-implementation isn't very robust nor intuitive (saving mappings within the windows-registry isn't really convenient in hunting down configuration-issues, I REALLY prefer properly self-documented text-files ((so files with meaningful comments for each function-call or value)) for this!)

Good luck!
limited 15. juni 2018 kl. 14.06 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Simon said DIE ♥♥♥♥♥!:
Opprinnelig skrevet av nanithehell:

Sorry, but this is my ultimate favourite game and i need the FFB to work in this game.
Just want to answer to you that I clearly hear your pain. I would much rather offer a solution as to right the situation without you having to wipe and replace your working install, since my OCD figures there has to be a reason within reach of logical deduction for this not to be working.

Have you tried all available points of failure? (in-game: turning off steering-help, toggling ffb "on" in-game, adjusting the signal strength; selecting the right mode on the wheel-base --I believe Logitech tells PC-users to use ps4-mode or do I have that wrong? Funny enough thrustmaster's windows-drivers want their wheels to be set to ps3-mode)
And of course did you try to use the wheel inside msc after closing the profiler-process (I believe they (Logitech) still keep that tradition with the current wheels, correct me if I am wrong) and just using bare-bones global settings?
Not trying to make fun of you, since I know from experience that a) this game's wheel- and wheel-ffb-implementation isn't very robust nor intuitive (saving mappings within the windows-registry isn't really convenient in hunting down configuration-issues, I REALLY prefer properly self-documented text-files ((so files with meaningful comments for each function-call or value)) for this!)

Good luck!

I have tried everything i've possibly could. I even downloaded .DLL files for the FFB from the developer. Nothing works. Nothing.
lindell inspetion 15. juni 2018 kl. 23.41 
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Whalespy 16. juni 2018 kl. 20.50 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Simon said DIE ♥♥♥♥♥!:
I sure hope you are talking tongue-in-cheek, here!
There is literally no valid reason to abandon ship until mid-2020 unless you really WANT to (play Windows-Store(tm) exclusive Dx12-only titles).

Unless you want to use current gen cpus. AFAIK Coffee Lake and AM4 socket amd cpus won't work with W7 at all*

*W7 will work with Coffee Lake cpus with some tweaking, but it's all held together with chewing gum and happy thoughts.
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Opprinnelig skrevet av Simon said DIE ♥♥♥♥♥!:
I sure hope you are talking tongue-in-cheek, here!
There is literally no valid reason to abandon ship until mid-2020 unless you really WANT to (play Windows-Store(tm) exclusive Dx12-only titles).

Unless you want to use current gen cpus. AFAIK Coffee Lake and AM4 socket amd cpus won't work with W7 at all*

*W7 will work with Coffee Lake cpus with some tweaking, but it's all held together with chewing gum and happy thoughts.
to be fair, we were talking about an existing, running system.

Also, just as you said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VTC4k6SLWY

BTT: has anyone of you having problems with your wheels been using steam big-picture mode? Did you have "general controller support" ticked inside the steam-client? Came across another game's thread where this rendered their wheels unusable in a very similar-sounding fashion.
Fizzl 28. mai 2019 kl. 3.15 
I just bought a g29. It wasn't working correctly for me at first. After a lot of fiddling, I realized the checkbox in the options for FFB was not working. I had to open options.txt with MSC editor, go to optionsffb and set optionsffb to True. After this the wheel started to work as expected.
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