Last impossible level last platform

[Complex]

On the last impossible level, there is a double platform at the end, where you're supposed to be run between them. Wasn't the lower part longer before? Now they're equal length and I cannot jump between them, making it truly impossible to complete. Is it a bug or something changed from before or am I really supposed to jump between there somehow?

Picture included: https://imgur.com/a/GuMmq3c

Wasn't it like this before? https://imgur.com/a/vO6Mn3e

[KamuJomblo]

I'm having the same issue, watched a few videos of that level from June and it was like in your second screenshot. I thought I needed to jump while pressing down but the jump isn't high enough.

[Complex]

In the end I've managed to jump between them, but it is weird.

[Abolish the Penny]

I'm going to piggyback on this to note that I have 100%ed the entire game on hardest difficulty, consistently in the top 5 in worldwide score leaderboards -- but I absolutely can't get the gems in last two checkpoints of !-9. I can do the level itself and get all the gold bars on highest difficulty, but I can't get these gems, not even on the easiest difficulty.

I tried for 4-5 hours on my own (literally around a third of my total playtime of the game). I tried keyboard and controller. I've tried as several different characters. Sound on and sound off. On my TV and on my monitor. I also tried using AutoHotKey to program a solution for those sections. No dice.

When I check videos it looks like there was possibly slightly more tolerance between the pillars.

Can anyone confirm they have beaten !-9 with all gems after the recent patch?

[Leon [BR]]

Originally posted by Abolish the Penny:

I'm going to piggyback on this to note that I have 100%ed the entire game on hardest difficulty, consistently in the top 5 in worldwide score leaderboards -- but I absolutely can't get the gems in last two checkpoints of !-9. I can do the level itself and get all the gold bars on highest difficulty, but I can't get these gems, not even on the easiest difficulty.

I tried for 4-5 hours on my own (literally around a third of my total playtime of the game). I tried keyboard and controller. I've tried as several different characters. Sound on and sound off. On my TV and on my monitor. I also tried using AutoHotKey to program a solution for those sections. No dice.

When I check videos it looks like there was possibly slightly more tolerance between the pillars.

Can anyone confirm they have beaten !-9 with all gems after the recent patch?

I was going to ask the same thing. Even took a screenshot to make it more clear

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1570589020
There is absolutely no way to complete it with all the gems. Sometimes the character do it well, but 99% of times it just bonks where it shouldn't.

Does this update messed with the hitboxes in this section?


Edit: Is there a way to play the old version for comparison? Like a beta branch?

[Complex]

I have completed the !-9 impossible level with all the gold and gems after the patch. It's hard but it's possible.

[Leon [BR]]

Originally posted by KomplexGyok:

I have completed the !-9 impossible level with all the gold and gems after the patch. It's hard but it's possible.

Would you tell us which character/costume did you use?

[Complex]

Originally posted by Leon BR:

Originally posted by KomplexGyok:

I have completed the !-9 impossible level with all the gold and gems after the patch. It's hard but it's possible.

Would you tell us which character/costume did you use?

I used Shovel Knight, the costume I'm not sure, probably the default one.

[awp]

Which character you play as does not matter, as they all have the same collision data. I'll pass the concerns along to the designers/testers, however, to find out what's going on!

[The Ziggs]

Hi guys. I'm one of the update testers. The challenge level is possible, but the only problem is that you'll have to keep working on your timing. If you got any more problems, please let us know!

[Travis182]

Yeah I have a huge problem, the level is too difficult, please fix.

[Abolish the Penny]

I spent another maybe 60 minutes trying to make headway on the last two checkpoints. I set the difficulty set to minimum so I didn't have to handle the wall kicks at the same time and faced no other obstacles during my play. So again, this is repeating the same 5-8 second section repeatedly for 60 minutes.

In terms of one loop of double jump -> ground pound -> run --> double jump -> ground pound (like the first obstacle in the second last section) I would say my success rate is maybe 1 in 50. I have gotten through the second last checkpoint once. I have never gotten beyond the first double jump -> ground pound -> run part after the double jump floating stairs.

I tried the following strategies:
- Double jump, ground pound onto obstacle, short hop, ground pound
- Double jump over obstacle, ground pound
- Slide under top obstacle versus run under top obstacle

No objection to difficulty at all, in general I would say even on the highest difficulty the game isn't too hard, and I don't find anything else on !-9 hard... just this very specific narrow section seems to be impossible for me. I have tried with and without vsync. I did try briefly on the keyboard but have generally been playing with a 360 wireless controller -- is there a reason to believe the input buffering or wireless lag is playing a part here?

What is the actual timing window in milliseconds between when jumping is too early (bonk on the overhead obstacle) and when jumping is too late (fastest possible double jump won't clear ground obstacle)?

What's the actual arc of the double jump? Is it better to double tap immediately? Should I hold the second jump a bit?

[Complex]

Yeah, this one specific jump is way harder than the rest of the game. You need brutal timing.

[Travis182]

I don't even know how you were able to do it for an hour straight. That part makes my hand hurt. After 10 minutes or so I'm just mashing buttons.

[Leon [BR]]

Originally posted by Abolish the Penny:

No objection to difficulty at all, in general I would say even on the highest difficulty the game isn't too hard, and I don't find anything else on !-9 hard... just this very specific narrow section seems to be impossible for me. I have tried with and without vsync. I did try briefly on the keyboard but have generally been playing with a 360 wireless controller -- is there a reason to believe the input buffering or wireless lag is playing a part here?

I agree with you. The game even on hardest settings are ok to play. It is fair. But these sections on !-9 are impossible for me too.

I did try with keyboard too. No sucess. I play with an 360 wired controller. I'm having the same issue, so it definetely isn't a wireless lag.

I gave another shot with Shovel Knight and guess what? It still impossible

[Leon [BR]]

Originally posted by EthanR27:

Hi guys. I'm one of the update testers. The challenge level is possible, but the only problem is that you'll have to keep working on your timing. If you got any more problems, please let us know!

To complete the level, it is like a walk in the park. The only problem is to get the 10 gems located in those narrow places.
I really don't know how there were 8 "impossible" levels that feels like hard, but fair and then we have the last "impossible" level that you need to find the only millisecond you have to jump to not bonk on the block above or ahead.
I really would like to test the old version of the level. As I can see on some youtube videos, there are some differences. The easier to see is the one pointed by KomplexGyok in this topic. So I guess that this level got harder than expected after the update.