tyre regulations

[Surgical]

since when can you not finish a race on SS tyres? dq'd on last lap because I was supposed to be on S or M, where the fk does it say that?

[Surgical]

and btw i started out on the softs

[lolschrauber]

Pirelli nominate two mandatory sets for each car for the race (which can be of different compounds) and one further set of whichever is the softest compound that can only be used in the Q3 segment of qualifying, but the teams are free to choose the remaining 10 sets.

Unless wet or intermediate tyres are used during the race, all drivers must use at least two different specifications of dry-weather tyres in the race, at least one of which must be one of the two mandatory sets nominated by Pirelli, though the teams are free to decide which one.

[FHarbor]

He used the S and SS so.. last year was bugged too.

[Surgical]

Originally posted by FHarbor:

He used the S and SS so.. last year was bugged too.

that...

[Jacques]

Did you use either of those sets in qualifying?

[Carbune]

Originally posted by Jacques:

Did you use either of those sets in qualifying?

It shouldn't matter. If you start on a compound that is the same as that of one of the mandatory race sets, it counts as a mandatory set.

Originally posted by ✪ Surgical:

since when can you not finish a race on SS tyres? dq'd on last lap because I was supposed to be on S or M, where the fk does it say that?

Which track was this? Some require you to go onto the hardest compound, with the middle one not being mandatory.

[Surgical]

Originally posted by Coffer:

Originally posted by Jacques:

Did you use either of those sets in qualifying?

It shouldn't matter. If you start on a compound that is the same as that of one of the mandatory race sets, it counts as a mandatory set.

Originally posted by ✪ Surgical:

since when can you not finish a race on SS tyres? dq'd on last lap because I was supposed to be on S or M, where the fk does it say that?

Which track was this? Some require you to go onto the hardest compound, with the middle one not being mandatory.

bahrain

[lolschrauber]

Originally posted by FHarbor:

He used the S and SS so.. last year was bugged too.

Originally posted by ✪ Surgical:

Originally posted by FHarbor:

He used the S and SS so.. last year was bugged too.

that...

It wasn't bugged. It works like the rules are in real life. I posted them for you. Read them.

It says you have to use 2 different of the available compounds with at least on of the mandatory tire SETS (not mandatory COMPOUND). You picked the wrong tire in Q2. That's the issue.

Also, don't act surprised because of a DSQ. Your engineer will tell you that you have to pit right before the race end. You just ignore him because you think you're right and bam! A "bug" is born.

I literally never had this issue in 2016 or 2017, so I'm really curious how you'd trigger it, if it's a bug as people say.

[Surgical]

Originally posted by lolschrauber:

Originally posted by FHarbor:

He used the S and SS so.. last year was bugged too.

Originally posted by ✪ Surgical:

that...

It wasn't bugged. It works like the rules are in real life. I posted them for you. Read them.

It says you have to use 2 different of the available compounds with at least on of the mandatory tire SETS (not mandatory COMPOUND). You picked the wrong tire in Q2. That's the issue.

Also, don't act surprised because of a DSQ. Your engineer will tell you that you have to pit right before the race end. You just ignore him because you think you're right and bam! A "bug" is born.

I never got into Q2. And used S-SS-SS. S or M being the mandatory.

And i never had this issue in 2016 before either.

[Carbune]

Originally posted by ✪ Surgical:

Originally posted by lolschrauber:

It wasn't bugged. It works like the rules are in real life. I posted them for you. Read them.

It says you have to use 2 different of the available compounds with at least on of the mandatory tire SETS (not mandatory COMPOUND). You picked the wrong tire in Q2. That's the issue.

Also, don't act surprised because of a DSQ. Your engineer will tell you that you have to pit right before the race end. You just ignore him because you think you're right and bam! A "bug" is born.

I never got into Q2. And used S-SS-SS. S or M being the mandatory.

And i never had this issue in 2016 before either.

This issue was in 2016 before aarava ran headlong into it in his Monaco video and it swiftly got fixed after that. Pirelli discussed this with CM. schrauber is wrong on this one.

[Surgical]

Originally posted by Coffer:

Originally posted by ✪ Surgical:

I never got into Q2. And used S-SS-SS. S or M being the mandatory.

And i never had this issue in 2016 before either.

This issue was in 2016 before aarava ran headlong into it in his Monaco video and it swiftly got fixed after that. Pirelli discussed this with CM. schrauber is wrong on this one.

was just kind of annoying, wasting an hour and a half of my time for that...

[Carbune]

Originally posted by ✪ Surgical:

Originally posted by Coffer:

This issue was in 2016 before aarava ran headlong into it in his Monaco video and it swiftly got fixed after that. Pirelli discussed this with CM. schrauber is wrong on this one.

was just kind of annoying, wasting an hour and a half of my time for that...

Yep, I personally haven't run into this issue, but you're not the only one I've seen talk about this. It sounds like the same bug from early in 2016 is back, which makes no sense whatsoever unless they somehow used an early build of 2016 to work on 2017 (which would also make no sense given that it features some later fixes like the starting tyre dictating your tyre wear, so it's likely that CM just broke something again).

[Surgical]

Originally posted by Coffer:

Originally posted by ✪ Surgical:

was just kind of annoying, wasting an hour and a half of my time for that...

Yep, I personally haven't run into this issue, but you're not the only one I've seen talk about this. It sounds like the same bug from early in 2016 is back, which makes no sense whatsoever unless they somehow used an early build of 2016 to work on 2017 (which would also make no sense given that it features some later fixes like the starting tyre dictating your tyre wear).

weird. i hope this won't happen again, or it gets fixed asap.
Anyways, thanks.

[Carbune]

Originally posted by ✪ Surgical:

Originally posted by Coffer:

Yep, I personally haven't run into this issue, but you're not the only one I've seen talk about this. It sounds like the same bug from early in 2016 is back, which makes no sense whatsoever unless they somehow used an early build of 2016 to work on 2017 (which would also make no sense given that it features some later fixes like the starting tyre dictating your tyre wear).

weird. i hope this won't happen again, or it gets fixed asap

Try reporting it on their official forums in the bug report subsection or checking to see if anyone's made a similar thread. They've been very unresponsive as of late and F1Support is mostly a joke of an account at this point, but it's worth a try since you're clearly not the only one who's run into this issue.

Actually, if you've been knocked out in Q1, I think I know what the nature of the bug actually is, and it seems to be different from 2016 - when selecting one of the mandatory compounds, it's possible that the game does not automatically put you on the set that is marked as mandatory, but rather a different set of the same compound that is available, and usually in Q1 you have a middle compound set to use so it's likely that you're being put onto that one. Why the system STILL works like that is way beyond me, since any starting tyre of the same compound as the ones they've marked as mandatory counts as fitting the mandatory rule no matter if it's a fresh tyre or a Q2 one.