F1 2017
racdavies Sep 6, 2017 @ 6:23pm
Tyre/Fuel saving in practice.
Im currently using an xbox 360 pad but struggling to complete the tyre and fuel challenges, in Melbourne i failed to complete both challenges so i added a extra laps worth of fuel which i still had at the end of the race, also only my 2 sets of tyres and still manged to improve on the teams required finishing position by 2 places on top of beating my rival(teamate) in every challange.

Any on to China...ive given up with the fuel saving for now but the tyre challenge i managed to get in the purple....then was told i failed....1.8 secs over the required lap time, i like the xbox 360 pad because the analog throttles can be pretty precise but as soon as i put the slightest bit of throlle on coasting round the corner to get in the green i end up back in the red,i think using auto gears might be helping....anyone else struggling too.
Last edited by racdavies; Sep 6, 2017 @ 6:27pm
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TommyEV Sep 6, 2017 @ 6:27pm 
I know it may sound stupid and obvious but when you do the tyre challenge, NEVER tilt the joystick 100%. You can use the rich fuel mix to go slightly faster and try to run wide on all corners so that you don't need to tilt it completely. Keep this little piece of advice in mind and it will probably get better instantly. It really worked for me.
racdavies Sep 6, 2017 @ 6:29pm 
Originally posted by TommyEV:
I know it may sound stupid and obvious but when you do the tyre challenge, NEVER tilt the joystick 100%. You can use the rich fuel mix to go slightly faster and try to run wide on all corners so that you don't need to tilt it completely. Keep this little piece of advice in mind and it will probably get better instantly. It really worked for me.
Ive adjusted steering linearity too i think 25% and thats helped a lot but throttling seem to be the issue.
TommyEV Sep 6, 2017 @ 6:36pm 
Originally posted by racdavies:
Originally posted by TommyEV:
I know it may sound stupid and obvious but when you do the tyre challenge, NEVER tilt the joystick 100%. You can use the rich fuel mix to go slightly faster and try to run wide on all corners so that you don't need to tilt it completely. Keep this little piece of advice in mind and it will probably get better instantly. It really worked for me.
Ive adjusted steering linearity too i think 25% and thats helped a lot but throttling seem to be the issue.
I didn't touch that. But avoiding tilting the joystick too much definitely helped me. You can still "force" the tyres too much if you go too fast, even if you don't turn completely, of course, but it was an instant improvement.

As for the fuel challenge, it's harder for me but with practice it gets better. When you get used to it you manage to drive faster while not droppping to the red too much and that time you save, you can use to stop throttling in some parts of the track, mostly straights. I often reach the finish line in high greens and I am a second or so ahead so I just stop throttling for the last few meters and that little time really makes the bar go high when done correctly.

Don't know if I was clear. Hope it helps.
bradm10 Sep 6, 2017 @ 7:17pm 
It's actually not as difficult as it looks. Don't worry about going into the red some but stay w/n .25 to .3 seconds of zero time. Ensure you're flat out on all of your longer straights and you'll make it up. Just slow down well before the turn at the end of these straights and coast in to use as little break as possible for the turn.
Keep an eye on your time over. If you're green but have 2 seconds to the good... lay off and get purple right at the end.
Finally. Don't slow too much on corners or you'll require A LOT OF fuel to get back up to speed. Before long you'll be purple at the end with over a second left.
MasterAce Sep 7, 2017 @ 1:44am 
use higher gear in corners, early shift on gears and release the throtle earlier before breaking zone may help fuel saving practice.
Carbune Sep 7, 2017 @ 1:52am 
Originally posted by bradm10:
If you're green but have 2 seconds to the good...
...then you're probably playing on an overly low difficulty relative to your actual pace.
Last edited by Carbune; Sep 7, 2017 @ 1:53am
cloister56 Sep 7, 2017 @ 2:17am 
For the fuel saving there are 2 things that help:

1) Shift up really early. If you listen to the engine note and as it rises shift up, if you do this before any lights appear or at least in the first red lights then you save huge amounts coming out of corners and into the straights. You can see your meter moving to purple.

2) As you approach a big corner, come off the gas early, probably earlier than you expect. You are going to brake anyway so you don't lose that much doing this. If you use the racing line then come of the gas before you enter the yellow zone.

Tyres:

Pretty much covered by everyone else.
Brake in a straight line, don't turn and brake.
Avoid full lock on turning, if you controller/wheel is vibrating you are going to far
Fast gradual corners can burn your tyres, again if you feel the vibration you are turning to hard. Try taking them a touch slower to get through with less wear.
Turn up the engine mode so you gain back the time in the straights.

For both of them go to your car setup and dump all but 3-4 laps of fuel. This goes for all but the race strategy test as all the others just require a single good lap so why bother carrying the extra fuel.

racdavies Sep 7, 2017 @ 5:35am 
Thanks for the tips guys, I`ll give it a go when i get home from work tonight.
Originally posted by racdavies:
Im currently using an xbox 360 pad but struggling to complete the tyre and fuel challenges, in Melbourne i failed to complete both challenges so i added a extra laps worth of fuel which i still had at the end of the race, also only my 2 sets of tyres and still manged to improve on the teams required finishing position by 2 places on top of beating my rival(teamate) in every challenge.

Any on to China...ive given up with the fuel saving for now but the tyre challenge i managed to get in the purple....then was told i failed....1.8 secs over the required lap time, i like the xbox 360 pad because the analog throttles can be pretty precise but as soon as i put the slightest bit of throttle on coasting round the corner to get in the green i end up back in the red,i think using auto gears might be helping....anyone else struggling too.


Tyre management is NOT as hard as people make it out to be. Even with the Xbox 360 game pad. It's what I use too. You have to find the right setup. I found it's all about setup and smooth control. The tips people give you about lifting, turning like this or that, blah blah blah, only get you so far. No. It is MUCH easier with the right setup, and I will go so far as to say it's ALL ABOUT setup.

Try this,
Aero isn't that important, but for more control set to 4F 4R,
Set tyres at their lowest pressures; This lowers tyre temps so wear is reduced.
suspension front and wear set to 2 or 3 on both.
Anti-roll bars set to 1 or 2
Differential, set to 60-65% on both on and off throttle,
Brakes (this is probably the most important) Set pressure to 60-65% with 62-64% front bias.
Weight is not really important but because the open differential can cause the rear to slide out from under you when braking and turning, set it forward to 3 or 4.

All of these measures reduce wear far more than any of the "tips" people have claimed work. I get purple every single time. In 2016 using a setup like this I ALWAYS got 10 straight purple laps.

Now it's true you need to lift a bit early and try to stay in a straight line while braking, but that all amounts to nothing if you lose too much time. You also SHOULD CUT every corner you can get away with. If you get a warning, use flashback and practice it until you get it right. Trust me. I have not gotten anything but purple since about a month after buying F1 2016. I'll even post the links to my Steam Workshop set up with screen shots to PROVE I get all purples.
Last edited by WOKEN Mrs. Ashleigh S!!; Sep 11, 2017 @ 3:01am
Here is the link to my F1 2016 Tyre wear setup. It works for all the cars in game even if it says it's for McLaren. There are screenshots to prove It works like a charm. Purple every single time. The SAME type of setup works in 2017 too

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1123137581

But just in case you need more help, here is my tyre wear setup for 2017. They both work perfectly for me and I've not gotten anything but purple for months now.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1129716355

I hope this helps. Good luck.


(Edit: I just added screenshots (2017) of a run I did literally 2 minutes ago as more proof that it is possible. It was even during rain on slicks after DRS was disabled, and I finished almost 2 seconds quicker than the program target time.)
Last edited by WOKEN Mrs. Ashleigh S!!; Sep 11, 2017 @ 3:02am
Also, the fuel challenge is EASY too! All you have to do is let go of the throttle completely before you hit the 150 meter marker. I lift completely at the 200 meter mark, more or less, and don't apply throttle until i've passed the apex. It is easy. They even tell you how to do it in game with the turtorials. Come on, guys. It's not that hard. If I can accomplish in in the McLaren in one lap, you can do it with any car. YOu have to guess where the 200 meter marker would be. That is your lift point.

I've found there are a couple fo corners in each track that move your slider really far to the right closer to or into purple. Try lifting at the 200 meter mark in every corner. There are some corners that dont give you much when you lift but tehre are abotu 2 or 3 corners on each track that give you A LOT when you lift soon enough. that's all there is to it. There is no big secret or trick to it.
Carbune Sep 11, 2017 @ 3:12am 
Originally posted by Ashleigh The Amazering:
It is easy. They even tell you how to do it in game with the turtorials. Come on, guys. It's not that hard.
Of course it isn't hard when you're running on an excessively low difficulty. Those times are really slow.
TommyEV Sep 11, 2017 @ 3:37am 
Yeah well, "easy" when you have 1000 hours in F1 2016 and 200 in 2017.

Anyway, I'll give your setup a try. Looks interesting!
Originally posted by TommyEV:
Yeah well, "easy" when you have 1000 hours in F1 2016 and 200 in 2017.

Anyway, I'll give your setup a try. Looks interesting!
I'm not the only one who uses this account to play steam games. A lot of that has to do with the hubby falling asleep with the game on pause, sometimes all night. He does that quite often.
Last edited by WOKEN Mrs. Ashleigh S!!; Sep 11, 2017 @ 4:12am
racdavies Sep 11, 2017 @ 4:13pm 
Originally posted by Ashleigh The Amazering:
Originally posted by TommyEV:
Yeah well, "easy" when you have 1000 hours in F1 2016 and 200 in 2017.

Anyway, I'll give your setup a try. Looks interesting!
I'm not the only one who uses this account to play steam games. A lot of that has to do with the hubby falling asleep with the game on pause, sometimes all night. He does that quite often.
Hope he pays the electric bill
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