Tyre/fuel management

[racdavies]

Are they broken features, currently on my first season driving for Toro rosso at Melbourne in fp 3, by the time im going round the first corner im in the red on both tyre and fuel management, not sure if its just a broken feature or because im using my xbox 360 joypad atm

[Dallas]

I actually am experiencing the same thing. I must confess i´m new to F1 games (but not racing games in general) and i find some of the programs extremely hard to solve. I´m on team Sauber and as a beginner i have to beat some lap times that are like 2 or 3 seconds faster than my fastest laps. Especially in fuel management or tyre its something i don´t get.

But actually you can throw these programs away, since in most cases i just get wrecked by the destruction derby AI which crashes constantly into my car. I think the AI is programmed that its a full race...but anyway... fun game...

[TommyEV]

They are VERY hard but not broken.

As a controller player I sometimes don't bother. I do the one witth the little gates in a single lap, do the qualy/races time practicers and move on.

[racdavies]

Originally posted by Ghost:

I actually am experiencing the same thing. I must confess i´m new to F1 games (but not racing games in general) and i find some of the programs extremely hard to solve. I´m on team Sauber and as a beginner i have to beat some lap times that are like 2 or 3 seconds faster than my fastest laps. Especially in fuel management or tyre its something i don´t get.

But actually you can throw these programs away, since in most cases i just get wrecked by the destruction derby AI which crashes constantly into my car. I think the AI is programmed that its a full race...but anyway... fun game...

Well so far ive been hit by Kvyat( my team mate), Perez( so accurate) and Vettel( he brake tested me) lol

[Jacques]

After you've failed the programme, go back to the pits and have a look at the programme again. The map should show you your problem areas.

For fuel management, if you're like me, you're likely downshifting too early in the breaking zone. Downshift really late, leaving the last gear just as you need it. Also try to use a higher gear than usual, the cars have plenty of torque. Don't skip the programme; now that the game keeps track of engine wear, you need to be conscious of your downshifts, and the fuel programme is a good way to practice. Downshifting too early wasted fuel and increases engine wear for nothing. F1 cars dont engine break.

As for tyre management, go easy on the breaks, smooth on the corners, avoid kerbs.

Also, if one of your practice rounds has rain, save those two programmes for it. The delta is far more lenient.

[ShadowAUT]

Hi guys,

I am used to play with racing wheel but it broke and so I used my gamepad which had some buttons broken too because it was very old and I had to use automatic shifiting.
With automatic shifting, the fuel program is NOT possible, so if you're automatic shift user switch to manual and learn that OR skip fuel program.

The tyre management is other story, the problem was that the game had a magical dead zone in the config files so I had to change that in the file manualy so I had no dead zone anymore and after that the tyre management was ok.

Here is the tipp from Kimmy00 on the offical codemasters forum:

(Sorry for my bad English)
A little trick :
Open file "action_map_preset_win.xml" the path is "C:/ProgramFiles/Steam/steamapps/common/F1 2015/actionmaps".
Then you need to search "xi_Preset1" (or "xi_Preset2" if you use preset 2), few lines below you have "Steer Left" and "Steer Right" so just change value of "deadZone".

In my case I changed only those Xbox presets and I finally could drive with my gamepad. It's not that hard to do the change and it really really helps.

[dongerbot]

@ShadowAUT "C:/ProgramFiles/Steam/steamapps/common/F1 2015/actionmaps".

isn't this for f1 2015?

[racdavies]

Originally posted by Jacques:

After you've failed the programme, go back to the pits and have a look at the programme again. The map should show you your problem areas.

For fuel management, if you're like me, you're likely downshifting too early in the breaking zone. Downshift really late, leaving the last gear just as you need it. Also try to use a higher gear than usual, the cars have plenty of torque. Don't skip the programme; now that the game keeps track of engine wear, you need to be conscious of your downshifts, and the fuel programme is a good way to practice. Downshifting too early wasted fuel and increases engine wear for nothing. F1 cars dont engine break.

As for tyre management, go easy on the breaks, smooth on the corners, avoid kerbs.

Also, if one of your practice rounds has rain, save those two programmes for it. The delta is far more lenient.

Because im using pad atm manual gears is kinda....no option until i move house in the next few weeks and get my force gt setup again, but thanks for the advice.
At Melbourne i got to last 10 laps then the team told me i was good for fuel and that i could change my engine mode wich i did and got 2 laps on rich mix before they told me to change back, finished the race with enough fuel for an extra lap....which i`d added at the start

[racdavies]

Originally posted by ShadowAUT:

Hi guys,

I am used to play with racing wheel but it broke and so I used my gamepad which had some buttons broken too because it was very old and I had to use automatic shifiting.
With automatic shifting, the fuel program is NOT possible, so if you're automatic shift user switch to manual and learn that OR skip fuel program.

The tyre management is other story, the problem was that the game had a magical dead zone in the config files so I had to change that in the file manualy so I had no dead zone anymore and after that the tyre management was ok.

Here is the tipp from Kimmy00 on the offical codemasters forum:

(Sorry for my bad English)
A little trick :
Open file "action_map_preset_win.xml" the path is "C:/ProgramFiles/Steam/steamapps/common/F1 2015/actionmaps".
Then you need to search "xi_Preset1" (or "xi_Preset2" if you use preset 2), few lines below you have "Steer Left" and "Steer Right" so just change value of "deadZone".

In my case I changed only those Xbox presets and I finally could drive with my gamepad. It's not that hard to do the change and it really really helps.

Yeah...ive noticed the steering is on or off and very little in between for default. Problem is you either get over if you drop your speed too much or you lose front grip which at best can ruin your line in to the next corner losing entrance speed.

[TommyEV]

Originally posted by racdavies:

Originally posted by ShadowAUT:

Hi guys,

I am used to play with racing wheel but it broke and so I used my gamepad which had some buttons broken too because it was very old and I had to use automatic shifiting.
With automatic shifting, the fuel program is NOT possible, so if you're automatic shift user switch to manual and learn that OR skip fuel program.

The tyre management is other story, the problem was that the game had a magical dead zone in the config files so I had to change that in the file manualy so I had no dead zone anymore and after that the tyre management was ok.

Here is the tipp from Kimmy00 on the offical codemasters forum:

(Sorry for my bad English)
A little trick :
Open file "action_map_preset_win.xml" the path is "C:/ProgramFiles/Steam/steamapps/common/F1 2015/actionmaps".
Then you need to search "xi_Preset1" (or "xi_Preset2" if you use preset 2), few lines below you have "Steer Left" and "Steer Right" so just change value of "deadZone".

In my case I changed only those Xbox presets and I finally could drive with my gamepad. It's not that hard to do the change and it really really helps.

Yeah...ive noticed the steering is on or off and very little in between for default.

That's not what the deadzone does

[Farjam the LuckyNoob]

Originally posted by racdavies:

Originally posted by Ghost:

I actually am experiencing the same thing. I must confess i´m new to F1 games (but not racing games in general) and i find some of the programs extremely hard to solve. I´m on team Sauber and as a beginner i have to beat some lap times that are like 2 or 3 seconds faster than my fastest laps. Especially in fuel management or tyre its something i don´t get.

But actually you can throw these programs away, since in most cases i just get wrecked by the destruction derby AI which crashes constantly into my car. I think the AI is programmed that its a full race...but anyway... fun game...

Well so far ive been hit by Kvyat( my team mate), Perez( so accurate) and Vettel( he brake tested me) lol

well you should play like it's Kviat simulator :D

[DanJam]

I found the tyre wear program is a lot easier with a steering wheel as the FFB helps you feel a little more where the understeer is happening which is ultimately what kills the tyres. As for fuel, I find it hard to beat green but lifting off 100m early and coasting between tight corners that are close together works very well. I usually use manual shift on racing games but prefer to use auto on here to prevent RSI from all the gear changes needed.

Very good advice about weather too, the programs all seem a lot easier when it's wet, it's the ideal time to do the tyre and fuel programs.

[Carbune]

Originally posted by daniel.james:

Very good advice about weather too, the programs all seem a lot easier when it's wet, it's the ideal time to do the tyre and fuel programs.

I'd say that's questionable depending on your speed in wet conditions. For me the times are several magnitudes easier but the fuel and tyre consumption themselves not so much, as the AI is simply much too slow and cautious in these conditions and the tests want you to replicate that, which would simply make you slow.