Heel -> Face in MyCareer

[IAmTheClayman]

So I've tried everything I can see online to get my superstar to lose heel rating so that I can turn face. I've:

- Turned off blood and varied up my moveset to avoid causing significant damage to any one body part
- Set up Bayley as my manager (I was using Alexa Bliss before)
- Limited my fighting to inside the ring, and stopped using the more violent OMG moments (although I am still using King of Swing)
- Stopped lifting my opponents up and used the wake-up taunt instead, don't beat on them, keep our health pretty even throughout the match and even intentionally lost matches after hitting 5 star rating
- Given face answers during promos, and set myself up in a rivalry with a heel (Rusev in this case)
- Run in on Heels post-match, and then gave babyface answers about wanting to prove myself in the Renee interview afterward (something not many guides talk about, but it works really well for gaining face points)

Despite all this, almost every match -- win or lose -- I end up gaining heel points. Even if I do the out of match stuff, I end up even because I can't seem to lose heel points during matches. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong here? I know the system is all sorts of broken, but I really can't tell what I'm doing wrong.

I'll post any tips I figure out here though in case this helps someone else

[IAmTheClayman]

Okay, new discovery: beating the crap out of John Cena is both very cathartic, and had no effect on my heel/face meter. Just won in a 4 1/2 star match where I led him by almost a full health bar in the end. Same strategy as mentioned above in OP: varied moves & body parts, kept to the ring, did my finisher, his finisher and attacked from the ropes, springboard and did a bunch of grapples

[Dan]

It's much easier in this game to be heel than face

[IAmTheClayman]

Originally posted by Awesomecrunch:

It's much easier in this game to be heel than face

Exactly, that's why I'm trying to do it - I want the challenge. I was trying to challenge myself by completing the Authority Challenges, but some of them are so impossible to set up properly that it wasn't worth it (here's looking at you "Win by DQ" Challenge.)

[canuckster]

Is there a visit a fan in the hospital option while making sure there are plenty of cameras there to capture it all?

[NicolloJ]

Don't start rivalry, in my career it stopped my long-term face turn :D When I'm not in any feud, and beat my opponents quickly after one finisher + give face promos, I'm slowly becoming the good guy ;)

[CaptainNebulous]

From what I can tell you can do pretty much anything you want to your opponent and not get much heel heat, so long as they are facing you when you do it. I feel like my character turns heel in a hurry if I do too many belly-to-back style moves, for example.