Conflict of Heroes , an amazing game that nearly forgotten by me

[papajack99]

Bought this in 2012 when it was first release , did not like it back then , play few games and then put a side

Recently met some friends who play the Boardgames version and was I impress how easy , fast pace the game system. Decided to load the game again , this time with boardgame knowledge I pick up (about 10 minutes coaching by my friend) , Conflict of Heroes has transform into an superbly amazing game

Easy to learn rules , fast and tense gameplay with those beautiful 2D counters . this is one
wargame that should belong in game library ...I am saving up for the boardgames version as well ( it is very expensive in my country) , those counters and colorful map are just stunningly beautiful..

[Yggdrasil]

I also bought this when it was first released and couldn't get into it. However, last year I bought the board game and enjoyed it. Looks like it's time to download it again and give it another try.

[papajack99]

@Yggdrasil Yes , you should , and remember to turn on the 2D counters ( High Quality looking , just like the real thing ) plus the giant board style setting

Another thing is AP system ..I use the Classic system which is how the Boardgame use ...but many of my friends like the Persistent AP system ...

[Sgt. Steiner]

I've played the computer game and expansions for years, and it is definitely a niche product. The entry fee isn't bad, but with the DLC, the price really skyrockets.

It is probably most similar to Matrix's own Heroes of Stalingrad (HoS) game, which is available on its website. I'd say HoS is a bit more hardcore in terms of rules and nuances, but both games are pretty good. A less experienced player might enjoy Heroes of Normadie here on Steam.

I'd give the base game a go. But to get the whole package at $70, you would really have to consider a number of better wargames like Command Ops 2, Command Naval Ops, Combat Mission 2 series, etc.

[papajack99]

I was praying for a Steam release before getting the expansion due to Steam regional pricing which has made the games much more affordable range
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Heroes of Stalingrad , I love to get this one but until it comes to Steam , I dont think I can afford it

[Yggdrasil]

Originally posted by papajack99:

@Yggdrasil Yes , you should , and remember to turn on the 2D counters ( High Quality looking , just like the real thing ) plus the giant board style setting

Another thing is AP system ..I use the Classic system which is how the Boardgame use ...but many of my friends like the Persistent AP system ...

Downloading now :) Also would like the Stalingrad expansion.

[papajack99]

Yeah Lock and Load Heores of Stalingrad ...looking really similliar to CoH but more complex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uAbFCG18YQ

Wonder will it ever get a Steam release ?

[Major.Pain]

Heroes Of Normandy.
Conflict of Heroes.
Heroes of Stalingrad.

All great games which i own the board games of CoH and L&LBand of Heroes(HoS but in Normandy basically)

Complexity wise i would say in the order listed above with HoS being a little closer to Squad Leader games with more tactical options, leaders ect. I have digital version of HoS and it is a good game just abandoned as Mark the dev moved on to pastures new.

I have the the board version also of CoH and the expansions Solo and Scenario Generator.
They are really good, very expensive as its just paper and cardboard but very enjoyable.
The card driven AI system is super neat so you can play by yourself against the AI without having to make the decisions for both sides, can't recomend it enough to be honest.

Was happy to see this up on Steam hope it gets some more love and a few scenarios, mods and some MP games on the go :)

HoS sequel is being developed over at Lock & Load publishing but its been info is scarce other than its in dev and its gonna be a while ect but a vast improvement over HoS so...

http://forums.lnlpublishing.com/threads/heroes-of-the-pacific-digital-edition.860/

The guys at Lock & Load are using the AI card system developed for CoH for there board games also so you know what i gonna be spending some cash on in the near future :)

Here is another board game they are developing for PC.

World at War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxd9LrR_a8k

[papajack99]

That World at War look interesting

[Major.Pain]

Yes it does look good, it looks to have the same or at least very simalar mechanics to HoS, i have not played any of the WaW series it certainly looks good.
The other series at Lock & Load that is cool is Nuklear Winter though this is not getting a digital release as far as i am aware.

[Sgt. Steiner]

The video looks like a computer game, and a great one at that.

[Major.Pain]

It is a computer version of the Lock & Load Publishings boardgame series World at War.
Its an Alpha but it is coming to PC, when no idea, the other couple of digital conversiions they are working on are also behind shedule ect.
The Heroes of the Pacific PC version was originally slated for a mid 2015 release for example.

[Yggdrasil]

Originally posted by Major.Pain:

It is a computer version of the Lock & Load Publishings boardgame series World at War.
Its an Alpha but it is coming to PC, when no idea, the other couple of digital conversiions they are working on are also behind shedule ect.
The Heroes of the Pacific PC version was originally slated for a mid 2015 release for example.

Alas, most of these wargame devs are small budget. I've been waiting forever for Close Combat's the Bloody First.

[Major.Pain]

A new Close Combat yes, been waiting a decade for one of those.
Got my fingers and toes crossed that the AI in this version is not dog sh*t like in the remakes.

[Sgt. Steiner]

Unless they bring someone on board, I don't think the developers of the current CC series have it in them to make any significant improvements beyond graphics and UI. I've consistently bought each one of the series (the old Cross of Iron I liked best) and really just minor changes and a change in venue in each one. AI and other issues never really fully addressed.

There is always hope, but I will not be a first-day buyer when that one comes out ;)

Yes, patience is needed with L&L. I did buy into Command Ops 2 even though I had the old series from Matrix. Anyway, those boardgame conversions sound awesome.

[cuqeen]

Command Ops 2 is very different than COH, you can't compare COH to CO2 (operational level, huge maps and it's RTS). Totally different. And above all, CO2 is one of the most boring strategy games ever for me.