Invisible Barred Doors (Show Blue on Map) - Help!

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I assume I'm missing something obvious, but for the life of me I can't work out how to open these...

Google threw up only one hint: "Have you played Legend of Zelda?". The problem is... No, I haven't :p

Thanks in advance

*Edit adding futher info to avoid confusion*

My problem with these doors is that (as opposed to *all other* types of doors and puzzles) I have never found a book or sign or other clue relating to them... :/

I understand where to find the clues and keys and how to open animals-on-pedestals doors, geometric shapes-on-pedestals doors, special boss key doors, patterned doors, skull doors and even triangle doors, just not these barred invisible secret doors...

[Wylie28]

They are magic doors. How they open depends. There will be hints in books or signs somewhere.

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Originally posted by Wylie28:

They are magic doors. How they open depends. There will be hints in books or signs somewhere.

Hmmm...

Thanks

...but I'm referring to the invisible barred secret doors in flat grey walls which appear every few runs. If you advance into them as you would for a regular secret door, you get the "clunk" sound and are told "the door will not budge". After that a blue barred door symbol appears on the map.

I recognise the keys/levers/written clues for all the other types of locked/barred/puzzle doors, but I have never seen any clue or lever referencing these particular (rare) doors.

[quite the notorious scoundrel]

The way to open it may be revealed on the next floor down.....at least it was that way for me in a similar situation.Hope that helps.....good luck.

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Originally posted by noahdaddy:

The way to open it may be revealed on the next floor down.....at least it was that way for me in a similar situation.Hope that helps.....good luck.

Thanks nd, but in the case which prompted this post, there was no next floor down (or at least, not in that branch).

My problem with these doors is that (as opposed to *all other* types of doors and puzzles) I have never found a book or sign or other clue relating to them... :/

I understand where to find the clues and keys and how to open animals-on-pedestals doors, geometric shapes-on-pedestals doors, special boss key doors, patterned doors, skull doors and even triangle doors, just not these barred invisible secret doors...

[Wylie28]

There are hidden doors that open when light the vase things. Do you think it might be something like that? Ive never tried running into to one before its opened.

[quite the notorious scoundrel]

Sorry I could not be of any assistance to you FE.All the ways you listed of opening doors are the only ways I know of also. If I come across some info that might help I will send it your way.

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Originally posted by Wylie28:

There are hidden doors that open when light the vase things. Do you think it might be something like that? Ive never tried running into to one before its opened.

Good point. I forgot to mention the "light the brasiers" doors. Sadly, in this case there are no nearby brasiers.

Originally posted by noahdaddy:

Sorry I could not be of any assistance to you FE.All the ways you listed of opening doors are the only ways I know of also. If I come across some info that might help I will send it your way.

All good, thanks for the replies! :)

I think we really need a dev to confirm they aren't just an ai dungeon creation glitch (HEY! jd!)

[jd]

I am not entirely sure what doors we're talking about here. Any chance you still have a screen shot? That would go a long, long way.
In any case 'barred' means operated by a lever, pressure plate, or by lighting torches.
And I never rule out a glitch in the level generator. But it is hard to tell from the description alone.

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Originally posted by jd:

I am not entirely sure what doors we're talking about here. Any chance you still have a screen shot?

I'm afraid not. I will make sure to take a screenie and record the seed next time I come across one (though you can almost guarantee I will now do 27 runs without a sniff of one... ;)).

They are secret (ie invisible) doors in flat smooth grey walls - but they are also barred ("kerclunk" sound and "the door won't budge" when pushed) and show as a blue barred door on the mini map after discovery.

They are not common, but on each occasion I have found one I have failed to find any lever, pressure plate or brasier which affected it.

[Micky]

I can confirm this problem. I encountered a hidden/secret wall. Normally they just open when you walk against them but this wall just gave me the *barred* text and in the combat log it said 'won't budge'. On the minimap it appears as a blue door sign. I did not find a way to open it and continued my run till I died. Unfortunately I read the thread here after I finished the run. So there is no savegame. However I made a picture with my smartphone camera to ask my friend if he knows how to solve this. I can upload it if that helps.

In the vicinity of this wall/secret door were two vase which can be lit. They were not exactly positioned left and right of the wall but slightly scattered in the area. I put them both on fire and since nothing changed I tried to drag them around but that did not do anything either.

[jd]

Hi Chobo,
Do you still have that picture?

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this exact same situation has happened to me before and with a screenshot it was determined to be a bug. for me it was between two unlit torches. when i lit the torches nothing happened. i used a scroll of magic mapping and the door on the map was a blue door. using a scroll of detect magic and a scroll of detect gold i learned that there was an amazing amount of gold and a few magic items on the other side of that door

[Elimis]

I got a screenshot: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1259176970

[Old Crow]

Here's mine
https://i.imgur.com/xNyWe5j.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kjo4OZ3.jpg

[jd]

Thanks for posting (and sorry for my late reply, I was on a vacation). Clearly a bug indeed. Did any of you try praying to open the door? In any case I will investigate this matter...