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As for the Minireenas, most say that you should wait until they are on both sides before shaking them off, but i recommend waiting until on *just about* reaches the top. You want to wiggle as little as you possibly can and as long as one is climbing on one side, another won't start on the same side until you shake them off.
When you do shake, pressing left and right once each should be enough to throw them off, but i've also had cases where they needed one more. Don't press more than three buttons though, it'll loosen the locks too much otherwise.