Treesicle just nailed everything about Enard, and William Afton. Please watch.

[XfireMH]

I believe 100% that this is all true. He touched on everything I was trying to explain on these discussion forums.

Watch these, he went into hard detail.:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTif0RX-Lx4



The debate is over, you are the purple guy in sister location.

[XfireMH]

Originalmente postado por JimmyGGames:

I want to mention that the animatronics were built by Afton, with "design choices" that lead to children being grabbed and stuffed within the suit. The suits were built before the animatronics became one. Afton is far from innocent.

I wasn't saying afton was innocent. I'm trying to get around that Enard is Afton, and how its all connected.

[XfireMH]

Originalmente postado por Hunter #357:

Just finished the second video. Nothing really came up involving what I said earlier.

I hope that in his follow-up video, he somehow addresses that and/or how Purple Guy can bleed so much after being crushed in Spingtrap. Blood does dry up after thirty years, especially if you have no organs to produce it.

Okay the bleeding portion I'm hoping he will answer in the flow up video or matt patt on Saturday.

[XfireMH]

Okay seriously people, I'm trying to spreed awareness about these connections. I don't think you play as the brother from fnaf 4 in sister location, because his story revolves more around crying child.

I don't want people thinking the wrong way like they did with fnaf 4.

[WatchPiggy]

Originalmente postado por (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:

Well there are a few problems with this, as well as some more details.

1. Ballora does have purple eyes, but I can let this pass as it would make sense for Ennard to use her eyes for the disguise as they are more accurately sized for a human.

2. FNaF1 explains that a murderer used a suit to lure two children, which then later turned to five in total. This contradicts the fact that the animatronics only kill when there's one child.

3. If purple guy is an animatronic, why does he bleed profusely when the Springtrap suit breaks in FNaF3?

4. He said purple guy's model changed over games, but the two he used as reference are actually both from FNaF2.

5. Isn't it just as likely that we could be playing as Henry in SL? I mean in the book he's even killed in his living room by an animatronic in a white clown mask. Sound familiar?

6. Why does Baby have blue eyes in the minigame, when her eyes are supposed to be green?

7. When you beat Ennard, why does she say, "I will find a way out." instead of "We will find a way out."?

8. Can you really trust Baby's story about her not being in control when she kills your daughter, when she appears to happily murder two technicians, possibly the other animatronics, as well as you to get her way?

9. Why does Baby have you remove her AI chip on Night 5, only for it to possibly get destroyed in the scooping room?

1. Seems fine

2. "Used a suit". A person in a suit commited the murders, not an animatronic.

3. I agree

4. Good point

5. I agree

6. Dunno, maybe Afton changed them to green to remember his daughter or something.

7. Dunno, but it doesn't really disprove the theory.

8. Don't know what you're talking about. Do you mean when she killed the daughter when she said "I couldn't control myself... I couldn't move.." etc? Because if so, that's how they were programmed.

9. So she could guide you through Funtime Auditorium (probably)? dunno

Just need to say I disagree with the entire "playing as afton" theory. I have more questions.

1. Baby says "I don't recognize you. You are new." to the player. Wouldn't she recognize her creator?

2. Pretty sure Afton would know how to survive the animatronics without Baby/HandUnit telling them how.

3. The BidyBabs don't recognize you either

4. Why would Afton allow himself to get scooped.

5. Springtrap has human eyes, not purple Ennard eyes

6. Mangle and Funtime foxy don't look alike at all

7. First they say that the innards of the SL animatronics are in Ennard, then they say that Funtime Foxy's innards are Mangle.

8. How would Ennard know how to drive a car (he does in a minigame, FNaF2)

9. Afton designed the killer animatronics (SL ones), not Henry. The children killed by AFTON go on to kill others through the innocent animatronics

[WatchPiggy]

now wait for them to come back with bad arguments

[(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr]

Another point is that SL has to take place after a Freddy Fazbear's closed. From the tapes in FNaF3 and details in FNaF2 and FNaF4, this Freddy Fazbear's existed and closed some time between FNaF4 and FNaF2. Treesicle uses this reference point as well, though he doesn't actually say it.

The minigames in FNaF2 show that the purple guy had been murdering children at this other Freddy Fazbear's mentioned above, as it is where the old animatronics came from, and they have memories or thoughts of him killing children at the previous location.

This means purple guy had to have already been murdering children before SL's story could take place.

[XfireMH]

Originalmente postado por WatchPiggeh:

Originalmente postado por (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:

Well there are a few problems with this, as well as some more details.

1. Ballora does have purple eyes, but I can let this pass as it would make sense for Ennard to use her eyes for the disguise as they are more accurately sized for a human.

2. FNaF1 explains that a murderer used a suit to lure two children, which then later turned to five in total. This contradicts the fact that the animatronics only kill when there's one child.

3. If purple guy is an animatronic, why does he bleed profusely when the Springtrap suit breaks in FNaF3?

4. He said purple guy's model changed over games, but the two he used as reference are actually both from FNaF2.

5. Isn't it just as likely that we could be playing as Henry in SL? I mean in the book he's even killed in his living room by an animatronic in a white clown mask. Sound familiar?

6. Why does Baby have blue eyes in the minigame, when her eyes are supposed to be green?

7. When you beat Ennard, why does she say, "I will find a way out." instead of "We will find a way out."?

8. Can you really trust Baby's story about her not being in control when she kills your daughter, when she appears to happily murder two technicians, possibly the other animatronics, as well as you to get her way?

9. Why does Baby have you remove her AI chip on Night 5, only for it to possibly get destroyed in the scooping room?

1. Seems fine

2. "Used a suit". A person in a suit commited the murders, not an animatronic.

3. I agree

4. Good point

5. I agree

6. Dunno, maybe Afton changed them to green to remember his daughter or something.

7. Dunno, but it doesn't really disprove the theory.

8. Don't know what you're talking about. Do you mean when she killed the daughter when she said "I couldn't control myself... I couldn't move.." etc? Because if so, that's how they were programmed.

9. So she could guide you through Funtime Auditorium (probably)? dunno

Just need to say I disagree with the entire "playing as afton" theory. I have more questions.

1. Baby says "I don't recognize you. You are new." to the player. Wouldn't she recognize her creator?

2. Pretty sure Afton would know how to survive the animatronics without Baby/HandUnit telling them how.

3. The BidyBabs don't recognize you either

4. Why would Afton allow himself to get scooped.

5. Springtrap has human eyes, not purple Ennard eyes

6. Mangle and Funtime foxy don't look alike at all

7. First they say that the innards of the SL animatronics are in Ennard, then they say that Funtime Foxy's innards are Mangle.

8. How would Ennard know how to drive a car (he does in a minigame, FNaF2)

9. Afton designed the killer animatronics (SL ones), not Henry. The children killed by AFTON go on to kill others through the innocent animatronics

--1. Theirs a theory going around saying that Henry made Baby, and Not Afton. But he know she's dangerous

--2. He wouldn't know completely how survive without baby's help. We the player don't know the hand unit, but Afton dose and just plays along.

--3. Again Maybe Henry made just these. But they did say at one point, "Is it the same guy"? Look for that in night 2, via youtube.

--4. Did you see that ending coming? He was lured their by baby. He thought he was going in the control room, where enard peered his ugly head in.

--5.Um no he dosen't. The spring Lock animatronic eyes, pierced right into his face.

--6. Character upgrade, but has nothing to do with Afton.

--7. Maybe left over parts, or a new character model, but still has nothing to do with afton.

--8. Obviously Baby is a learning robot, that adapts.

--9. It's likely Henry made some of the Sl animatronics, but not all of them. I know baby was one of them.

[XfireMH]

Originalmente postado por (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:

Another point is that SL has to take place after a Freddy Fazbear's closed. From the tapes in FNaF3 and details in FNaF2 and FNaF4, this Freddy Fazbear's existed and closed some time between FNaF4 and FNaF2. Treesicle uses this reference point as well, though he doesn't actually say it.

The minigames in FNaF2 show that the purple guy had been murdering children at this other Freddy Fazbear's mentioned above, as it is where the old animatronics came from, and they have memories or thoughts of him killing children at the previous location.

This means purple guy had to have already been murdering children before SL's story could take place.

https://youtu.be/Np_xJHu03f0?t=49s

[GhostMami]

Originalmente postado por XfireMH:

Originalmente postado por Hunter #357:

Just finished the second video. Nothing really came up involving what I said earlier.

I hope that in his follow-up video, he somehow addresses that and/or how Purple Guy can bleed so much after being crushed in Spingtrap. Blood does dry up after thirty years, especially if you have no organs to produce it.

Okay the bleeding portion I'm hoping he will answer in the flow up video or matt patt on Saturday.

it's not like blood drys up and skin rot

Originalmente postado por XfireMH:

Originalmente postado por (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:

Another point is that SL has to take place after a Freddy Fazbear's closed. From the tapes in FNaF3 and details in FNaF2 and FNaF4, this Freddy Fazbear's existed and closed some time between FNaF4 and FNaF2. Treesicle uses this reference point as well, though he doesn't actually say it.

The minigames in FNaF2 show that the purple guy had been murdering children at this other Freddy Fazbear's mentioned above, as it is where the old animatronics came from, and they have memories or thoughts of him killing children at the previous location.

This means purple guy had to have already been murdering children before SL's story could take place.

https://youtu.be/Np_xJHu03f0?t=49s

what does that have to do with his point?

[GhostMami]

anyone remember when scott said FNAF1,2,3, and 4 were a complete story and sister location had no affect on them me nether...

[WatchPiggy]

Originalmente postado por XfireMH:

--1. Theirs a theory going around saying that Henry made Baby, and Not Afton. But he know she's dangerous
I have not heard this anywhere but with you here xDDD. There is no evidence supporting this though?

--2. He wouldn't know completely how survive without baby's help. We the player don't know the hand unit, but Afton dose and just plays along.
Afton made the animatronics, so he should know that they can kill. He should know that Ballora cannot see. Etc.
--3. Again Maybe Henry made just these. But they did say at one point, "Is it the same guy"? Look for that in night 2, via youtube.
No evidence supporting that Henry made these again. The animatronics were designed to kill people, so I doubt Henry made them.
--4. Did you see that ending coming? He was lured their by baby. He thought he was going in the control room, where enard peered his ugly head in.
I did not see it coming, however that is irrelevent. Would you say that knowing Mario would save Peach gives Mario that knowledge immediately? No. Also, Afton would clearly see that he is being brought to the SCOOPER, not the control room.
--5.Um no he dosen't. The spring Lock animatronic eyes, pierced right into his face.
http://i.imgur.com/qOdFczy.png
--6. Character upgrade, but has nothing to do with Afton.
How is going from Funtime Foxy to Mangle an upgrade. Mangle < Funtime Foxy in looks, tech, etc
--7. Maybe left over parts, or a new character model, but still has nothing to do with afton.
Video says otherwise, but okay.
--8. Obviously Baby is a learning robot, that adapts.
So Baby being a learning robot makes Ennard able to drive a car with ease. Aight. It adapts to what exactly? Does it adapt to being in a car? Out of a car? I don't get it.
--9. It's likely Henry made some of the Sl animatronics, but not all of them. I know baby was one of them.
So Henry made killing animatronics? Doubt it. Again, no evidence supporting this

[Lord Egg]

Originalmente postado por XfireMH:

Originalmente postado por WatchPiggeh:

1. Seems fine

2. "Used a suit". A person in a suit commited the murders, not an animatronic.

3. I agree

4. Good point

5. I agree

6. Dunno, maybe Afton changed them to green to remember his daughter or something.

7. Dunno, but it doesn't really disprove the theory.

8. Don't know what you're talking about. Do you mean when she killed the daughter when she said "I couldn't control myself... I couldn't move.." etc? Because if so, that's how they were programmed.

9. So she could guide you through Funtime Auditorium (probably)? dunno

Just need to say I disagree with the entire "playing as afton" theory. I have more questions.

1. Baby says "I don't recognize you. You are new." to the player. Wouldn't she recognize her creator?

2. Pretty sure Afton would know how to survive the animatronics without Baby/HandUnit telling them how.

3. The BidyBabs don't recognize you either

4. Why would Afton allow himself to get scooped.

5. Springtrap has human eyes, not purple Ennard eyes

6. Mangle and Funtime foxy don't look alike at all

7. First they say that the innards of the SL animatronics are in Ennard, then they say that Funtime Foxy's innards are Mangle.

8. How would Ennard know how to drive a car (he does in a minigame, FNaF2)

9. Afton designed the killer animatronics (SL ones), not Henry. The children killed by AFTON go on to kill others through the innocent animatronics

--1. Theirs a theory going around saying that Henry made Baby, and Not Afton. But he know she's dangerous

--2. He wouldn't know completely how survive without baby's help. We the player don't know the hand unit, but Afton dose and just plays along.

--3. Again Maybe Henry made just these. But they did say at one point, "Is it the same guy"? Look for that in night 2, via youtube.

--4. Did you see that ending coming? He was lured their by baby. He thought he was going in the control room, where enard peered his ugly head in.

--5.Um no he dosen't. The spring Lock animatronic eyes, pierced right into his face.

--6. Character upgrade, but has nothing to do with Afton.

--7. Maybe left over parts, or a new character model, but still has nothing to do with afton.

--8. Obviously Baby is a learning robot, that adapts.

--9. It's likely Henry made some of the Sl animatronics, but not all of them. I know baby was one of them.

1. at the beggining of the game it states afton made them
2.he made their weaknesses HE SHOULD KNOW THEM
3. No
4. This one is just
5. Ok mabye
6. it would be a downgrade
7.k
8. True
9. See 1.

[supersonic2233]

Originalmente postado por XfireMH:

Originalmente postado por (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:

Well there are a few problems with this, as well as some more details.

1. Ballora does have purple eyes, but I can let this pass as it would make sense for Ennard to use her eyes for the disguise as they are more accurately sized for a human.

2. FNaF1 explains that a murderer used a suit to lure two children, which then later turned to five in total. This contradicts the fact that the animatronics only kill when there's one child.

3. If purple guy is an animatronic, why does he bleed profusely when the Springtrap suit breaks in FNaF3?

4. He said purple guy's model changed over games, but the two he used as reference are actually both from FNaF2.

5. Isn't it just as likely that we could be playing as Henry in SL? I mean in the book he's even killed in his living room by an animatronic in a white clown mask. Sound familiar?

6. Why does Baby have blue eyes in the minigame, when her eyes are supposed to be green?

7. When you beat Ennard, why does she say, "I will find a way out." instead of "We will find a way out."?

8. Can you really trust Baby's story about her not being in control when she kills your daughter, when she appears to happily murder two technicians, possibly the other animatronics, as well as you to get her way?

9. Why does Baby have you remove her AI chip on Night 5, only for it to possibly get destroyed in the scooping room?

--1. Enard is made up of every animaronic in the game, including ballora. How they set themselves up they can change later if need too. In any case, enard switched to ballara, because they fit like human eyes. (And I noticed tresickle F upped on that part, which is why I got rid of the the first part).

--2. They lured them one at a time on separate times. The 2 victims, were alone and caught at the right time. The other 3 separate days.

--3 Left over blood, or the scooping pressure was perfect enough that he didn't really die, and still has some blood left. (Okay that one needs explaining still.)

--4 Again a small F up from treesickle for not adding the other 2 sprites from the 3rd 4th games, but you know what he meant. Why you asking this one?

--5 Well also, from what I heard in the book its stated that Afton wanted love from children, Would you consider baby wanted love as well? However you might have a point, but the purple eye thing means something.

--6. That was the old model. That was version Enard came from. The out of service animatronic.

--7. Again another stupid question.

--8. Since when can you trust anything she says. Maybe she dosen't understand better. Like she couldn't understand, when you go for the secret room.

--9. She tells you to remove the good stuff, but really she keeped the bad stuff when they formed enard, and lied too you.

how could actually the purple guy can be ennard? how can a robot get inside a spring robot? how come there are still blood and there are tons of it even if he was scooped and leftover blood cant be inside it for that long + he was roaming around that should spill it, also how does purple guy act's in FNaF 3 minigames, he uses a suit to lure the animatronics, why? he's a robot himself in disguise, not like he will be spoted in the camreas taking off the suit since there is no guard, also when he dies in springtrap you can't see ennard's scrapped parts, i think scott is hiding the players idenity in SL

[XfireMH]

Hey its not my fault you all can't see the truth the way I can.

[Lord Egg]

Originalmente postado por XfireMH:

Hey its not my fault you all can't see the truth the way I can.

It's not our fault you can't take critizisim