Michael Afton is NOT Springtrap.

[MichaelVDragon]

Guys i think we're jumping to conclusions about Michael & Springtrap. I mean we're not 100% sure about what happened to Michael after sister location.

Look in my opinion Michael is not the Real purple guy. He only looks like him because in the Cut-scene's its suppose to show how he's related to him and how he grew sick due to having robot parts inside him and he should've been dead after what he went through but he's not. He's still alive and properly still has some robot parts in him which may explain why he talks a bit robotic at the end of his speech.

The purple man in fnaf 2, 3, & 4 is the real purple guy named William Afton and i still believe he's the one that still gets trapped in the Spring Bonnie suit. While else does Springtrap want to kill us its clearly the murderer as an undead cyborg zombie.

I know that's Scott's original intention and he wouldn't retcon his story like that so easily. And would Scott really use a different character to die in the Springlock to become Springtrap and i mean i'm sure this is what happened to william afton/dave miller after the silver eyes novel.

Meanwhile Michael the fake purple man has been hiding in shadows likely as in we never seen him at all and that he remained in hiding the whole time and one day he's going to confront his father for his crimes even if his father is now an undead cyborg zombie wearing a broken spring Bonnie suit. If his undead father heard his speech i bet he would say something like.
"I'd like to see you try my son."

[Psyanide53]

Recall that in FNAF 3 when Springtrap jumpscares you, he doesn't make any aggressive motions, he doesn't reach for you, he doesn't jump at you at all, he simply walks up and LOOKS at you.

That's not behavior of something with murderous intent, if anything it proves to me that he wasn't trying to hurt the security guard at Fazzbears Fright - but scare him away so Springtrap could burn the place down and escape.

To me it makes more sense that you play as Michael Afton in Sister Location and that he ends up being Purple Guy. It explains why he was treated like a new employee, why Baby and the other animatronics didn't recognize him, why they couldn't pin the murders on him because his dad was helping to cover for him (or vice versa), why he kept coming back because his father kept sending him there, etc...

We only associate William Afton with the Purple Man because of the Silver Eyes novel but I've been saying for a while that the universe of the novel and the universe of the games are quite different from one another.

To me this just makes sense.

[Varian Parryin']

FNaF3 happens around 2017-2023, I'm pretty sure William could be dead at that time. So Michael isn't able to find him unless he'll die too. But Michael can't die after events of Sister Location.
There could be more sense if William is Springtrap. Than Michael is able to find him, because he and his father are like immortals.

But with final cutscene I'm inclined to Michael is being Springtrap.

[bordanka]

VittiDubs původně napsal:

Recall that in FNAF 3 when Springtrap jumpscares you, he doesn't make any aggressive motions, he doesn't reach for you, he doesn't jump at you at all, he simply walks up and LOOKS at you.

That's not behavior of something with murderous intent, if anything it proves to me that he wasn't trying to hurt the security guard at Fazzbears Fright - but scare him away so Springtrap could burn the place down and escape.

To me it makes more sense that you play as Michael Afton in Sister Location and that he ends up being Purple Guy. It explains why he was treated like a new employee, why Baby and the other animatronics didn't recognize him, why they couldn't pin the murders on him because his dad was helping to cover for him (or vice versa), why he kept coming back because his father kept sending him there, etc...

We only associate William Afton with the Purple Man because of the Silver Eyes novel but I've been saying for a while that the universe of the novel and the universe of the games are quite different from one another.

To me this just makes sense.

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[scope.wad]

''Then we can see what finally becomes of Eggs Benedict''

[JW12345 (Exotic Butters):]

Pshychodragon680 původně napsal:

Guys i think we're jumping to conclusions about Michael & Springtrap. I mean we're not 100% sure about what happened to Michael after sister location.

Look in my opinion Michael is not the Real purple guy. He only looks like him because in the Cut-scene's its suppose to show how he's related to him and how he grew sick due to having robot parts inside him and he should've been dead after what he went through but he's not. He's still alive and properly still has some robot parts in him which may explain why he talks a bit robotic at the end of his speech.

The purple man in fnaf 2, 3, & 4 is the real purple guy named William Afton and i still believe he's the one that still gets trapped in the Spring Bonnie suit. While else does Springtrap want to kill us its clearly the murderer as an undead cyborg zombie.

I know that's Scott's original intention and he wouldn't retcon his story like that so easily. And would Scott really use a different character to die in the Springlock to become Springtrap and i mean i'm sure this is what happened to william afton/dave miller after the silver eyes novel.

Meanwhile Michael the fake purple man has been hiding in shadows likely as in we never seen him at all and that he remained in hiding the whole time and one day he's going to confront his father for his crimes even if his father is now an undead cyborg zombie wearing a broken spring Bonnie suit. If his undead father heard his speech i bet he would say something like.
"I'd like to see you try my son."

thank you

[post apocalypse otter boi]

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[Dani]

Noble Santascoper původně napsal:

''Then we can see what finally becomes of Eggs Benedict''

[jackalackin]

The purple sprite in the SL cutscenes is extremely similar to the sprite in the fnaf 3 minigames. This is like this for a reason. Remember, *what is seen in the shadows is easily misunderstood in the mind of a child* and *I've been living in shadows*

[MichaelVDragon]

Erron původně napsal:

Wour de Luck původně napsal:

FNaF3 happens around 2017-2023, I'm pretty sure William could be dead at that time. So Michael isn't able to find him unless he'll die too. But Michael can't die after events of Sister Location.
There could be more sense if William is Springtrap. Than Michael is able to find him, because he and his father are like immortals.

But with final cutscene I'm inclined to Michael is being Springtrap.

I think William is on the run after killing the children.

Its fairly likely William is Springtrap and that Michael's still out there somewhere waiting in teh shadows. Also i don't think William was confirmed 100% guilty for the murders according to the police due to not having enough evidence. Its likely William went to the shut down freddy fazbears building to remove the evidence of his wrongdoing before the police could salvage the place. But of course he failed after the ghost of the children he killed came to haunt him but he knew the spring bonnie could trick them regardless and it worked at first but of course he was too arrogant to know how broken & wet the suit is as the springlocks went off and rightfully killed him but lives on as an undead cyborg killer zombie.

[Sweet Girl Splob]

I agree with most of your points. I thought before I read this that I was the only one who thinks William is Springtrap. I mainly think so both because of your point about Scott won't retcon his story, and because I see Springtrap's movement in the end of that final cutscene (from SL) to be a movement of awakening. (He hears his son's speech and wakes up.) I understand your reason why they'd confront each other, but I don't think they would do it, at least not for that reasoning. And if I'm already on the topic of confrontations, who IS the guard in the 3rd game?? Michael possibly? (That's why I said "at least not for that reasoning". If Michael is the guard, they are still confronting.)

People pointed out that Springtrap isn't aggresive, and I agree, he isn't really doing anything apart of getting close to your face. but maybe William isn't simply and aggresive cold-blooded killer. Isn't there a theory that suggests his daughter's "disappearance" is his murder motive? It could be that he became a killer because of grief of his daughter, and wasn't regularly aggressive. Though it's still speculative. And even if William is regularly aggresive, Maybe he expresses it "off-cam", after the Game Over screen has rolled already.


Also, (not fully connected to "who is Springtrap"), am I the only one that believes SL takes place between FNAF 1 and FNAF 3? I'm not sure if before or after William has turned into Springtrap. I just don't feel like Michael would wait for so long. Yeah, he said he's been living in shadows without specifying for how long, but I think it won't work that well timewise if SL is happening in an earlier point in the timeline.

[Varian Parryin']

megamichael555 původně napsal:

I agree with most of your points. I thought before I read this that I was the only one who thinks William is Springtrap. I mainly think so both because of your point about Scott won't retcon his story, and because I see Springtrap's movement in the end of that final cutscene (from SL) to be a movement of awakening. (He hears his son's speech and wakes up.) I understand your reason why they'd confront each other, but I don't think they would do it, at least not for that reasoning. And if I'm already on the topic of confrontations, who IS the guard in the 3rd game?? Michael possibly? (That's why I said "at least not for that reasoning". If Michael is the guard, they are still confronting.)

People pointed out that Springtrap isn't aggresive, and I agree, he isn't really doing anything apart of getting close to your face. but maybe William isn't simply and aggresive cold-blooded killer. Isn't there a theory that suggests his daughter's "disappearance" is his murder motive? It could be that he became a killer because of grief of his daughter, and wasn't regularly aggressive. Though it's still speculative. And even if William is regularly aggresive, Maybe he expresses it "off-cam", after the Game Over screen has rolled already.


Also, (not fully connected to "who is Springtrap"), am I the only one that believes SL takes place between FNAF 1 and FNAF 3? I'm not sure if before or after William has turned into Springtrap. I just don't feel like Michael would wait for so long. Yeah, he said he's been living in shadows without specifying for how long, but I think it won't work that well timewise if SL is happening in an earlier point in the timeline.

Well said.

[Squidward]

So is everyone forgetting about the fact michael aftons voice turns all robotic near the end of the cut scene or about how he pretty much explains how he got stuck in the suit and how to ghost kids mistook him for his dad?

[post apocalypse otter boi]

Squidward původně napsal:

So is everyone forgetting about the fact michael aftons voice turns all robotic near the end of the cut scene or about how he pretty much explains how he got stuck in the suit and how to ghost kids mistook him for his dad?

Yes.

[post apocalypse otter boi]

Squidward původně napsal:

So is everyone forgetting about the fact michael aftons voice turns all robotic near the end of the cut scene or about how he pretty much explains how he got stuck in the suit and how to ghost kids mistook him for his dad?

Also your profile pic fits so well.

[bordanka]

VittiDubs původně napsal:

Recall that in FNAF 3 when Springtrap jumpscares you, he doesn't make any aggressive motions, he doesn't reach for you, he doesn't jump at you at all, he simply walks up and LOOKS at you.

That's not behavior of something with murderous intent, if anything it proves to me that he wasn't trying to hurt the security guard at Fazzbears Fright - but scare him away so Springtrap could burn the place down and escape.

To me it makes more sense that you play as Michael Afton in Sister Location and that he ends up being Purple Guy. It explains why he was treated like a new employee, why Baby and the other animatronics didn't recognize him, why they couldn't pin the murders on him because his dad was helping to cover for him (or vice versa), why he kept coming back because his father kept sending him there, etc...

We only associate William Afton with the Purple Man because of the Silver Eyes novel but I've been saying for a while that the universe of the novel and the universe of the games are quite different from one another.

To me this just makes sense.

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