Theory: Evidence Against Mike being Foxy Bro

[Rollerwings]

So by Scott's own word, now we know Mike did not become Springtrap. So who, if anyone, from the games was Mike before he worked at CBEaR, got scooped and became a purple guy? A few (including myself) think he was the crying child who had been "put back together" after his injury and grew to become an adult.

A more popular theory is that Mike was Foxy Bro grown up. If that's correct it would make for an incredibly tragic plot twist, with a brother tormented by his poor choices making the ultimate sacrifice to save the one sibling he could.

However, while typing something up on the FNaF reddit, a small detail struck me. In my mind at least, it pours a big bucket of ice-cold water on the Mike-as-Foxy-Bro possibility.

In the "walking to work" SL minigames, note what Mike's green-and-orange-shirted neighbors are doing: they're waving to him and smiling broadly. Even if this was probably exaggerated cartoon-style and it's doubtful they really stood on their lawns in a crowd waving to him each day like he was in a one-man ticker tape parade, clearly Mike was someone who is friendly and well-liked.

Would they be greeting Foxy Bro this way when it was common knowledge he had caused his brother's death? No way! He'd be a social pariah, "that kid" whose recklessness cost someone his life. They'd go out of their way to avoid him, ducking behind their houses if they saw him walking by. You've probably seen this on a smaller scale when you were young: there's that one kid who plays a bit rough, someone gets hurt and then everyone is told not to play with "that kid."

Thanks for reading and feel free to add your opinion.

TL;DR -- Mike is well-liked by everyone, since his neighbors always smile and wave when he walks by. They wouldn't greet Foxy Bro that way considering what he'd done, so Mike and Foxy Bro are probably NOT the same guy.

[the unknowable one]

I mean, not every neighbor is going to know what goes on in a families home, to them foxy bro could have just been the pinicle of an outstanding citizen. maybe a good student, and a good volunteer helper at freddys, for all we know.

who knows, I beleive foxy bro was old enough to work at freddys, because how else was he able to stuff crying child in the parts and matinence room, how did he know the location and gain access to it?

[Sp4rt4n1295]

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I mean, not every neighbor is going to know what goes on in a families home, to them foxy bro could have just been the pinicle of an outstanding citizen. maybe a good student, and a good volunteer helper at freddys, for all we know.

who knows, I beleive foxy bro was old enough to work at freddys, because how else was he able to stuff crying child in the parts and matinence room, how did he know the location and gain access to it?

I don’t think he was old enough in ‘83, but maybe he was able to do it because he was the son of the restaurant owner (William) and had free access to areas normally restricted to employees only.

[the unknowable one]

interesting point, so would this be assuming henry is canon to the games? because if he was, i dont know if he would have allowed such a thing.

[the unknowable one]

oh ♥♥♥♥ hang on a pizza spinning second henry IS canon to the games.

remember the mangle teaser that when brightened said "look what u made me do" for fnaf world and then the baby cinimatic where baby kills the distressed man at the desk.
(fnaf world)

a bunch of people assumed it was scott getting burnt out, but really it was a hint, lmao I feel dumb.

do I get a prize scott lol jk

[Sp4rt4n1295]

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interesting point, so would this be assuming henry is canon to the games? because if he was, i dont know if he would have allowed such a thing.

I think Henry is canon in the games, but I don’t think he was in charge of Fredbear’s during the events of FNaF4. I think he was in charge of Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza (or an earlier version of it that was around alongside Fredbear’s just before it closed in 1983) while William had retained sole control of Fredbear’s (he would’ve had Circus Baby’s as well, but we know what happened there).

[Lord Egg]

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true, though there doesn't seem to be any houses near the Afton(s)

They live right next door to Fredbear’s, and all we see is the Aftons’ house and Fredbear’s. I’m sure there are other nearby neighborhoods and/or houses that we didn’t get to see in FNaF 4.

fair enough

[Lord Egg]

actually this might make the foxy brother the puppet, that sounds dumb but listen.



according to matpats theory the fredbear and friends location contained springlocks of all the characters, which explains the freddy in the give cake minigame, we see the kid outside crying(possibly remembering his brother) then we see william kill him(for revenge!)

[Bringin' Shreksy Back]

Първоначално публикувано от Jimbo The Immortal Janitor:

actually this might make the foxy brother the puppet, that sounds dumb but listen.



according to matpats theory the fredbear and friends location contained springlocks of all the characters, which explains the freddy in the give cake minigame, we see the kid outside crying(possibly remembering his brother) then we see william kill him(for revenge!)

8ut then how would mike have survived to get scooped in fnaf sl?

[Rollerwings]

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That's assuming the neighbors know this is the Foxy Bro and assuming that they know who was behind the incident, and even assuming that the incident was even on news, also, the neighbors can still greet him, just because a person done one thing wrong in the past doesn't mean this person should never be greeted or congratulated.

Thank you for saying that last part. I didn't want to get off-topic in my original post with too many details, but I strongly agree with you: your past mistakes do not define you.

We've had an "extra kid" over here a lot lately because he got into some trouble, his family is steamed and he's devastated. I wish I had the guts to tell some adults that giving up on someone and writing him off is the worst possible way to react. /end rant

There are a few fanfictions that deal with the fallout in Foxy Bro's life after the incident, by the way. You can filter by story character over on FF.N to find 'em -- highly recommended!

[Lord Egg]

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Първоначално публикувано от Jimbo The Immortal Janitor:

actually this might make the foxy brother the puppet, that sounds dumb but listen.



according to matpats theory the fredbear and friends location contained springlocks of all the characters, which explains the freddy in the give cake minigame, we see the kid outside crying(possibly remembering his brother) then we see william kill him(for revenge!)

8ut then how would mike have survived to get scooped in fnaf sl?

? it's going of breadspys theory

[xX_Infernal_Wizard_Xx]

But he says "father its me Michael."

[Rollerwings]

Interesting theory! It always was confusing why a child would be standing outside the restaurant, crying.

I've always thought he was standing out back and late at night, when nobody could witness his murder. And I've thought he was an older kid, because a young kid wouldn't be allowed to roam by himself. I'd assumed he'd gotten kicked out of the restaurant and was upset about being stranded in the alley, but that's a great theory that he could be Foxy Bro, mourning his brother's death outside the family's restaurant.

[Sp4rt4n1295]

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Interesting theory! It always was confusing why a child would be standing outside the restaurant, crying.

I've always thought he was standing out back and late at night, when nobody could witness his murder. And I've thought he was an older kid, because a young kid wouldn't be allowed to roam by himself. I'd assumed he'd gotten kicked out of the restaurant and was upset about being stranded in the alley, but that's a great theory that he could be Foxy Bro, mourning his brother's death outside the family's restaurant.

Maybe he was kidnapped by William and killed because he managed to get away to try to tell someone. He couldn’t get in because the door was locked (private birthday party and all), so William caught up to him and killed him to keep him quiet. As for why William would kidnap a random child: well it could take place before William had his daughter and CC, so maybe he was looking to take the kid as his own, by force if he had to.

[WeltaChara]

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Interesting theory! It always was confusing why a child would be standing outside the restaurant, crying.

I've always thought he was standing out back and late at night, when nobody could witness his murder. And I've thought he was an older kid, because a young kid wouldn't be allowed to roam by himself. I'd assumed he'd gotten kicked out of the restaurant and was upset about being stranded in the alley, but that's a great theory that he could be Foxy Bro, mourning his brother's death outside the family's restaurant.

'Cept that Mike's alive all the way to FNaF 3...remember, "Father, it's me, Michael"

[Rollerwings]

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'Cept that Mike's alive all the way to FNaF 3...remember, "Father, it's me, Michael"

Sorry, this gets confusing because we're simultaneously discussing two theories (Michael is CC "put together" and alive again vs. Michael is Foxy Bro.) I think Jimbo was referring to the Michael-as-CC theory.

If Michael was CC and Foxy Bro was another character entirely, then I think it's possible Foxy Bro either became the Puppet kid or possibly survived until he took the FNaF3 guard job, maybe for the sole purpose of burning down the attraction that capitalized on his family's tragedies. (And who can blame him? Phone Dude sounds more oblivious than evil, but that's terrible taste to open a horror attraction based on real-life murders in the same town where they happened.)