Did this used to be Swords and Potions 2?

[Eknight01]

Title... on Kongregate?

It felt so familiar so I checked Kong to see... and S&P2 is completely gone from the site.

[Overlord]

No, it's a different game.

Edgebee, company that made S&P2 is dead, so probably that's why game got deleted

[kevinshow]

i thought I saw CloudCade on S&P2 also? Maybe I was wrong.

But I did hear it's the same company. Maybe they changed names.

[Eknight01]

nm... I found it, turns out THIS was on Kong too, dunno why only S&P2 was in my list there, i put waaay more time into this on there

[Shiroe]

From what I read, a bunch of devs moved from Edgbee to make Shop Heroes. They have since moved on to another combany/game and AFAIK only the CEO is left from that original crew...

[Dashofpepper]

Edgebee created Swords and Potions, then Swords and Potions 2. Edgebee rebranded into Cloudcade and created Shop Heroes, with the Montreal team making the IP, and the US team handling the business and marketing; CC US stole the IP from CC Canada, eventually causing CC Montreal to rebrand again into Riposte and start working on a new title, "Shop Titans." CC US sued Riposte and lost; Riposte was acquired by Kabam, and now Shop Titans is literally Swords and Potions, created by Matthieu, Jay, and the original OG crew, and it is...the hotness.

[kevinshow]

What is "IP" when used in this comment above? Maybe intellectual property?

As far as CC US stealing the idea/IP and CC Canada creating another company that makes a similar game, I have often been confused about things like this. I suppose it comes down to, did a company take actual code and re-use it? If they did not, then even if their game is very similar, it was not a copy. Because there are certainly so many games out there with a similar look and feel. For example, after World of Warcraft became popular, there were a lot of free mmorpgs that copied some of the same ideas and graphics style of WoW, even if the general game world, character races, and factions were all different.

But if they did re-use code like we've heard of for some games that were re-branded by ex-members of the old group, and even if graphics or concept varies a little, it's a copy, and so it would be something to sue for.

[Butterfly Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ]

Originally posted by Dashofpepper:

Edgebee created Swords and Potions, then Swords and Potions 2. Edgebee rebranded into Cloudcade and created Shop Heroes, with the Montreal team making the IP, and the US team handling the business and marketing; CC US stole the IP from CC Canada, eventually causing CC Montreal to rebrand again into Riposte and start working on a new title, "Shop Titans." CC US sued Riposte and lost; Riposte was acquired by Kabam, and now Shop Titans is literally Swords and Potions, created by Matthieu, Jay, and the original OG crew, and it is...the hotness.

that is very interesting! seems CC responds to my emails around 2 am Eastern, making me think it's an asian company now..

[Shiroe]

Originally posted by Butterfly Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ:

that is very interesting! seems CC responds to my emails around 2 am Eastern, making me think it's an asian company now..

Interesting. I thought "support" stayed in US when they set up the new dev team in asia (we weren't sure if in China or Pakistan) after the CA dev team walked away. So now support also moved to asia? www.shopheroes.com now is a CNAME for shl.us.cloudcadecn.com , so that "cn" bit might indicate them being in China now.
(their facebook posts style also seems more "chinese mobile games company"-ish lately...

[nightshadea2010]

They also made a version of s&p 2 on mobile ... its almost the same game but the shop didn't close .... it was annoying also here's something if ya want to play s&p 2
https://www.kongregate.com/g/swords-and-potions-2
EDIT:nevermind that was an old page

[mystickneon]

Yeah, it was on Kongregate until Mozilla and Chrome dropped the Unity API and WebGL never worked right... migrated to Steam with a dedicated client.