Let Them Come

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blaubont Oct 3, 2017 @ 1:03pm
The Crawler
The Crawler Boss for Level 3 feels awful to fight, requiring limited ammo weapons like grenades and (whatever the shielded parts need) really feels terrible when to farm the money to buy said ammo nets you 10~ coins each time you reload the crawler wave and the base grenades alone cost 30 each.
Last edited by blaubont; Oct 3, 2017 @ 1:04pm
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Myll_Erik Oct 3, 2017 @ 2:07pm 
It's the cheapest optionsm so hopefully it's not too difficult to farm cash if you need to.
blaubont Oct 3, 2017 @ 2:38pm 
That seems like a pretty severe balance issue that should be addressed and not just written off.
Teak Oct 3, 2017 @ 2:54pm 
Myll_Erik, no, it’s not difficult but it’s really annoying. I had the same issue facing The Crawler and the problem is, you don’t necessarily make any profit facing the boss unless you just give up after a few shots and save whatever grenades and ammunition you have (until you have enough to actually kill it and you don’t know beforehand how much that might be).
Klemen Oct 3, 2017 @ 4:17pm 
Originally posted by blaubont:
That seems like a pretty severe balance issue that should be addressed and not just written off.

I hear you man. Destroying sections of the boss will reward you credit you can spend on items you need. The reward is modest on purpose, people could be driven to farm it for credit otherwise. It can be a hard balance to nail but testing showed this to be the sweet spot. I'll definitely keep an eye out though and make adjustments if required.

Thanks for your feedback!
Fuzzgug Oct 3, 2017 @ 5:42pm 
I'm out of funds at this boss and I want to restart my campaign, but I can't find any options to do so and I don't know where I can delete the save itself, kinda frustrated.
Pumpkin Oct 3, 2017 @ 8:10pm 
I can't figure out what to do to break the 'armored' parts of him? I get that you throw grenades into the open spots, but then the armored pieces of his sections are invulnerable and cannot be broken. What am I missing here? I'm playing on Xbox One, I couldn't progress any further (also experiencing completely emptying my wallet by trying to figure out what to do by throwing grenades at it and wasting my explosive ammo) so I just had to give up.

A seriously amazing game with a glaring issue here.
Dr. Marker Oct 3, 2017 @ 8:54pm 
Originally posted by 🎃 ゾーン「Pumpkin Zone」:
I can't figure out what to do to break the 'armored' parts of him? I get that you throw grenades into the open spots, but then the armored pieces of his sections are invulnerable and cannot be broken. What am I missing here? I'm playing on Xbox One, I couldn't progress any further (also experiencing completely emptying my wallet by trying to figure out what to do by throwing grenades at it and wasting my explosive ammo) so I just had to give up.

A seriously amazing game with a glaring issue here.

Armour piercing ammo does the trick on those.

While I didn't have much trouble with this boss (and cleared it on my first attempt) that was largely becasue I had been hoarding the required items up until that point (something not every player is going to have the foresight to do).

Experiment 7 is so far giving me a headache due to no apparent way to interupt his attack (essentially meaning that I inevitably die near the beginning of the fight since there's no way to avoid taking damage).
Klemen Oct 3, 2017 @ 9:05pm 
Originally posted by Fuzzgug:
I'm out of funds at this boss and I want to restart my campaign, but I can't find any options to do so and I don't know where I can delete the save itself, kinda frustrated.

In main menu, hit escape to start a new game. I suggest you try farming the Crawler for a bit though, shouldn't be long untill you can restock or buy new items.


Originally posted by 🎃 ゾーン「Pumpkin Zone」:
I can't figure out what to do to break the 'armored' parts of him? I get that you throw grenades into the open spots, but then the armored pieces of his sections are invulnerable and cannot be broken. What am I missing here? I'm playing on Xbox One, I couldn't progress any further (also experiencing completely emptying my wallet by trying to figure out what to do by throwing grenades at it and wasting my explosive ammo) so I just had to give up.

A seriously amazing game with a glaring issue here.

Yup as Dr. Marker said, piercing ammunition will do the trick. Also upgraded throwable secondary items like the knife and tomahawk.

Dr. Marker, try using the riot shield to block his gun attacks :)
Last edited by Klemen; Oct 3, 2017 @ 9:10pm
Dr. Marker Oct 3, 2017 @ 9:10pm 
Originally posted by Klemen:

Yup as Dr. Marker said, piercing ammunition will do the trick. Also upgrade throwable secondary items like the knife and tomahawk.

Dr. Marker, try using the riot shield to block his gun attacks :)

So the marker that previously denoted an interuptable attack is now being used, without variation, to denote an attack that cannot be interupted and which the only way to survive (I'm assuming) is the use of an item you can't guarentee that every player has thought of purchasing or equipping (and with no signal or indication that this is the intended way to do the fight).

I realise that there's no polite way to say this but this is rather poor and unintuitive design.
Klemen Oct 4, 2017 @ 9:04am 
Originally posted by Dr. Marker:
Originally posted by Klemen:

Yup as Dr. Marker said, piercing ammunition will do the trick. Also upgrade throwable secondary items like the knife and tomahawk.

Dr. Marker, try using the riot shield to block his gun attacks :)

So the marker that previously denoted an interuptable attack is now being used, without variation, to denote an attack that cannot be interupted and which the only way to survive (I'm assuming) is the use of an item you can't guarentee that every player has thought of purchasing or equipping (and with no signal or indication that this is the intended way to do the fight).

I realise that there's no polite way to say this but this is rather poor and unintuitive design.

You have a point about the exclamation mark being used in different circumstances, it's a warning sign for an incoming high damage attack but I can see how previous encounters could give you some false assumptions about what to do.
Pumpkin Oct 4, 2017 @ 9:34am 
Yeah, I finally beat the boss .. but I think that it needs some serious work. Your average player wouldn't know that you would have to buy a specific weapon type JUST to break that specific part of the boss. You use the grenade icon (which only some grenades work on, molotovs do not for example), but then throw a completely new obstacle that you have to purchase the armor piercing ammo for but give no such icon or clue as to what to use.

I hope you guys fix this, or give some sort of clue or have a small hint system on bosses or areas like this if you're going to throw a wrench into gameplay like requiring a finite item source that you very well could not be able to have/purchase because you spent all your money trying other solutions.

Seriously, I LOVE this game. Great soundtrack, amazing sprite/art work, fun gameplay with only a few minor hiccups. Address certain situations like this and you'll be golden.
There's no reason an Xbox One player like myself had to get on the Steam discussions just to figure out how to beat a required boss.
Klemen Oct 4, 2017 @ 11:30am 
I'm hearing you, I will patch this. Thanks for the feedback, really helps!
Dr. Marker Oct 4, 2017 @ 4:03pm 
Originally posted by Klemen:

You have a point about the exclamation mark being used in different circumstances, it's a warning sign for an incoming high damage attack but I can see how previous encounters could give you some false assumptions about what to do.

I do want to make it clear I do overall enjoy your game and I'm not just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on your work (overall, a great game plagued by only a few balance issues).
Klemen Oct 5, 2017 @ 9:05am 
Thanks man, that's good to hear. I'm working on a small balance patch that should help ease these small frustrations.
blaubont Oct 5, 2017 @ 9:08am 
Thank you for listening.
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