Carmageddon: Max Damage

Carmageddon: Max Damage

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Still crahing at random time.
I dont know whats a problem, really. Before 31th october it never crashes at random time even in campaign or mp races. After last update I thought all is fixed but I was wrong - game can crash at a random time.
Mb my problem in my pc, but why other games what I have in the library doesnt crash at random time. My pc - Windows 7 64bit 4gb RAM 2gb video
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Mo¡stDreams Nov 28, 2016 @ 4:40am 
Might be running out of Vram or system memory. Does the same thing on a laptop I own. Haven't tested it on my main pc yet.
Mo¡stDreams Dec 1, 2016 @ 1:54am 
Originally posted by Linux is a dead os:
windows 7 is known for bugs and issues. i would say you have an OS problem, not a game issue. this is why people should really upgrade to windows 10. hell, its better at everything, and faster. i have not had a problem with gaming on windows 10 at all, wonderful OS. Widnows 7 however..slow.. buggy...glitchy, it spies on you, etc. glad they fixed it with windows 10

This is terrible advice, I have had plenty of cases where Windows 10 has screwed me over when 8.1 and 7 have not. Before you jump in and say I would not know. I am a certified computer engineeer running Windows 10 Pro at present.

I run this version of the game on highest preset and it still crashed at random my first crash was during career level two, at the same time as that I run into the bug which cuts all sound from the game except for engine noise and music.

It is quite odd however I cannot vouch for the stability post patch as I installed it after that update.

Frame rate was consistant at 60frames which was a nice change compared the now outdated version of this product.
Last edited by Mo¡stDreams; Dec 1, 2016 @ 1:56am
Mo¡stDreams Dec 1, 2016 @ 1:58am 
Originally posted by Linux is a dead os:
Originally posted by Misunderstood Wookiee:

This is terrible advice, I have had plenty of cases where Windows 10 has screwed me over when 8.1 and 7 have not. Before you jump in and say I would not know. I am a certified computer engineeer running Windows 10 Pro at present.

I run this version of the game on highest preset and it still crashed at random my first crash was duing career level two, at the same time as that I run into the bug which cuts all sound from the game except for engine noise and music.
everyone in these forums is a certified programmer or engineer. its bloody amazing! i am not a computer engingeer. only been working with computers, hardware wise and windows wise for 17 years now. i am amazed at how many 'engineers' in these forums are unable to get a simple piece of software to work.

You would be suprised, how often software does not function in an enterprise enviorment this is why those enviorment emplace very strict configuration and hardware certification policies. I'm not asking you to trust me, you don't know me. I am simply giving my two cented opinion after playing it for myself.

Just you are aware I said computer engineer not 'software engineer' two very different fields.
Last edited by Mo¡stDreams; Dec 1, 2016 @ 2:02am
Originally posted by Misunderstood Wookiee:
Originally posted by Linux is a dead os:
windows 7 is known for bugs and issues. i would say you have an OS problem, not a game issue. this is why people should really upgrade to windows 10. hell, its better at everything, and faster. i have not had a problem with gaming on windows 10 at all, wonderful OS. Widnows 7 however..slow.. buggy...glitchy, it spies on you, etc. glad they fixed it with windows 10

This is terrible advice, I have had plenty of cases where Windows 10 has screwed me over when 8.1 and 7 have not. Before you jump in and say I would not know. I am a certified computer engineeer running Windows 10 Pro at present.

I run this version of the game on highest preset and it still crashed at random my first crash was during career level two, at the same time as that I run into the bug which cuts all sound from the game except for engine noise and music.
Sure dude. That reason why I dont change my OS. Windows 7 is stable and I have no problem with it. All games work fine only a few(inculing Carmageddon Max Damage) has troubles with crashing etc. And its really not in my PC problem - its a game problem.
Mo¡stDreams Dec 1, 2016 @ 2:05am 
Originally posted by ~Immortals~ Apollyon:
Originally posted by Misunderstood Wookiee:

This is terrible advice, I have had plenty of cases where Windows 10 has screwed me over when 8.1 and 7 have not. Before you jump in and say I would not know. I am a certified computer engineeer running Windows 10 Pro at present.

I run this version of the game on highest preset and it still crashed at random my first crash was during career level two, at the same time as that I run into the bug which cuts all sound from the game except for engine noise and music.
Sure dude. That reason why I dont change my OS. Windows 7 is stable and I have no problem with it. All games work fine only a few(inculing Carmageddon Max Damage) has troubles with crashing etc. And its really not in my PC problem - its a game problem.
Certainly is something glitching in the low level part of the engine. It happens to be that turning down some settings will pro-long the playtime but it does crash at random eventually.

I am looking for a possible fix right now, not much luck so far - see at first I thought it was only my laptop crashing with this game due to system memory being only 4GB; however on my main machine it has 16gb and minimal proccesses running. Still crashed. I actually had no problems up until career level two the whole game was running like a dream up till that point. It might be map specific who knows.
Last edited by Mo¡stDreams; Dec 1, 2016 @ 2:06am
Davide Dec 1, 2016 @ 7:29am 
I have win7 and the game works perfectly. I just get a loud crackling noise from my speakers in some matches while fighting some cars (like from chapter 11-12ish), sometimes it disappears while still in the match sometimes I have to finish the match, but it always stops when I'm back in the menus. Sometimes the music becomes like 2 times higher for some reason (like it ignores in game audio options for a bit) when I'm almost done at loading a match. It lasts 1-2 secs, not a big deal.
Seriously it never crashed till today, can't speak for the future lol but... I'm not here saying "boooo your pc sucks" I'm just saying check if other people with your GPU or CPU had the same issue.
Mo¡stDreams Dec 1, 2016 @ 10:30am 
Well that said I am running an Intel i7-3820 clocked at just over 4.3ghz coupled with an AMD R9 290x

Seems to be running a lot smoother now I disabled AA and DOF everything else is maxed out, I force enable AA in my driver software instead and it does the job better with less FPS loss.
👽H€L¡XX® Dec 2, 2016 @ 6:06pm 
Originally posted by Agent 47.5:
Originally posted by Hel:
I have win7 and the game works perfectly. I just get a loud crackling noise from my speakers in some matches while fighting some cars (like from chapter 11-12ish), sometimes it disappears while still in the match sometimes I have to finish the match, but it always stops when I'm back in the menus. Sometimes the music becomes like 2 times higher for some reason (like it ignores in game audio options for a bit) when I'm almost done at loading a match. It lasts 1-2 secs, not a big deal.
Seriously it never crashed till today, can't speak for the future lol but... I'm not here saying "boooo your pc sucks" I'm just saying check if other people with your GPU or CPU had the same issue.

the game isnt broken, these trolls know that. for some reason they totally insistant on hating on the game out of ego/ignorance. i would say their pc DOES suck, and thats the reason they have crashing/issues. they can't admit that fact so they blame the game. its really sad. That, and an outdated buggy OS like windows 7, it would explain alot.

You should stop the ignorant posting. Win 7 SP1 is the top OS for PC gaming, period. It still has a 49% market share, Win 10 has less than half. You obviously are clueless to the facts.

Your 2 hours doesn't count for anything in this game. Your unwanted and unneeded advice in these threads means nothing to the players that have had issues. You are the one trolling in here, not them.

This game has a few issues with sound volume and the "crackling" audio in some levels. You don't have enough time in this game to have reached the levels that have these issues.

While I have had no problems running this game, there are those that do. And, by the way, there is an entire thread dedicated to Win 10 not running this game properly.

If you have a clue why their game doesn't work, help them. If not, STF up and stop with the misinformation.
Last edited by 👽H€L¡XX®; Dec 2, 2016 @ 6:10pm
Mo¡stDreams Dec 2, 2016 @ 7:28pm 
Originally posted by Agent 47.5:
Snip.. (Lol)
Thought you were leaving ;) (close the door on the way out he he)
Seeing as you are still here, I must say if you had any understanding of the requirement to be classified "troll" you would be fully aware you are the one whom is "trolling", by outright just repeating yourself. It is starting to look like you just want attention and to ♥♥♥♥ on everybody else.

All of your statements lack substance, do you even read what you type and post?
First off Windows 7 is largely accepted industry wide as still the most stable OS (the part about it being outdaded made me piss a little) this might seem shocking to you but software which is not the "latest and gratest OHH YEA PC MASTER RACE" does not mean unstable and the cause of all your problems.

As for these claims you make about "Windows 7 being too Outdated" & "Better at everything!". Lets put that too the test from a verified source, since apparently you like too talk a big game but have cited absolutely nothing to back that talk.


So lets take a look the performance differences
Source: http://www.techspot.com/review/1042-windows-10-vs-windows-8-vs-windows-7/page3.html

Before you scream "OOH YEA BRA, Win10 boots faster" we KNOW!

That is the one of the biggest advantages of 8.1 and 10 they do boot quicker but only from Hybrid Sleep which I find quite funny and even then the margin between 7 and 10 is only three seconds!!!. I don't see anything here pointing that 10 is far superior to Win7 or Win8.1 in the synthetic benchmarks. It appears asside from Furmark the resaults are basically even except for 3D Particle Movement where Windows 10 lost out too Windows 8.1 and Windows 7, lets see if this trend continues into the software benchmarks.



Oh would you look at that.. Windows 10 was crapped on again by both Win8.1 and Win7 on everything except for "Microsofts Edge Browser" (which is to be expected) but the one which stands out the most here Winzip Compression where 8.1 takes a staggering lead over both Win 10 and Win7.

I feel I need to post the actual results here as you won't read much into it.
Multi-threaded results for WinZip compression speeds, where higher is better.
Windows 10: 5598 kbs
Windows 8.1: 6167 kbs
Windows 7: 5802 kbs

We can see that Adobe Photoshop CC the margin of difference in seconds was a mere .4 of a second WOW man! Seems that Windows 10 also comes last when it comes to 7-zip 32mb dictonary compression speeds aswell! Storage speeds don't look too good either for Windows 10 the whole way through the margin of difference is less than 2% in CrystalDiskMark acorss the board. As we get into the gaming benchmarks and stability which lets face facts; that is why you are still here...

We can see again a whooping 2-3 FPS difference between all three with the exception of Tomb Raider DX11 (High Quality) which has basically a single frames difference! Your case is not looking too good here again. Infact the conclusion concludes that Windows 10 was the ONLY OS to actually cause a couple bugs and annoyances in games.

Personally I conclude that these results are more about the softwares engine's ability to use the system resources and less about which OS you run. So what do you have to say for yourself now since you like to talk.

To everbody else sorry for the de-rail I hope you can forgive, I was just getting tired of this dude and his/hers endless blame.


Side Note:
If we were to compare all three OS's on a enterprise level we would see something even more shocking as big money companies usually will not deploy a new OS for a good five years after a new OS is released and a lot of the time software is written OS specific so actually upgrading would break thier system not fix it!
Last edited by Mo¡stDreams; Dec 2, 2016 @ 7:43pm
👽H€L¡XX® Dec 2, 2016 @ 7:51pm 
http://steamcommunity.com/app/505170/discussions/0/152390648083650739/

@Misunderstood Wookiee
If you really need a good laugh read this idiocy. He spends more time posting misinformation in forums than gaming.
Mo¡stDreams Dec 2, 2016 @ 8:03pm 
Originally posted by ~👽H€L¡XX~:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/505170/discussions/0/152390648083650739/

@Misunderstood Wookiee
If you really need a good laugh read this idiocy. He spends more time posting misinformation in forums than gaming.
:D: skimmed it, I don't even want to respond to that as all of it irrespective of operating system leads too stability increases in some cases.

I don't know why he/she argues everything we post here. I already stated I actually use Win10 myself (in saying I only upgraded from 8.1 for faster Hybrid wake times, the inevitable DX12 support performance & driver support) however I have had far more issues with Win10 than I have had with 8.1 & 7. I actually had my SSD reporting various I/O write failure at random which made me think about getting a new SSD as I thought it was a possible drive issue because at that time I was having up to 1min long application hangs and the error event was occuring over 70x an hour. To make sure I booted up 8.1 and the issue was gone so I formatted and all is well now.

I even googled the hell out the error I saw and found a substantial number of Stacktrace threads with users having similar issues on some hardware when the "hidden" power settings had the HDD idle enabled causing issues with drive operations and they were all specific to Win10 so I turned those off and problem was resolved.
Last edited by Mo¡stDreams; Dec 2, 2016 @ 8:05pm
Originally posted by Misunderstood Wookiee:
Originally posted by Agent 47.5:
Snip.. (Lol)
Thought you were leaving ;) (close the door on the way out he he)
Seeing as you are still here, I must say if you had any understanding of the requirement to be classified "troll" you would be fully aware you are the one whom is "trolling", by outright just repeating yourself. It is starting to look like you just want attention and to ♥♥♥♥ on everybody else.

All of your statements lack substance, do you even read what you type and post?
First off Windows 7 is largely accepted industry wide as still the most stable OS (the part about it being outdaded made me piss a little) this might seem shocking to you but software which is not the "latest and gratest OHH YEA PC MASTER RACE" does not mean unstable and the cause of all your problems.

As for these claims you make about "Windows 7 being too Outdated" & "Better at everything!". Lets put that too the test from a verified source, since apparently you like too talk a big game but have cited absolutely nothing to back that talk.


So lets take a look the performance differences
Source: http://www.techspot.com/review/1042-windows-10-vs-windows-8-vs-windows-7/page3.html

Before you scream "OOH YEA BRA, Win10 boots faster" we KNOW!

That is the one of the biggest advantages of 8.1 and 10 they do boot quicker but only from Hybrid Sleep which I find quite funny and even then the margin between 7 and 10 is only three seconds!!!. I don't see anything here pointing that 10 is far superior to Win7 or Win8.1 in the synthetic benchmarks. It appears asside from Furmark the resaults are basically even except for 3D Particle Movement where Windows 10 lost out too Windows 8.1 and Windows 7, lets see if this trend continues into the software benchmarks.



Oh would you look at that.. Windows 10 was crapped on again by both Win8.1 and Win7 on everything except for "Microsofts Edge Browser" (which is to be expected) but the one which stands out the most here Winzip Compression where 8.1 takes a staggering lead over both Win 10 and Win7.

I feel I need to post the actual results here as you won't read much into it.
Multi-threaded results for WinZip compression speeds, where higher is better.
Windows 10: 5598 kbs
Windows 8.1: 6167 kbs
Windows 7: 5802 kbs

We can see that Adobe Photoshop CC the margin of difference in seconds was a mere .4 of a second WOW man! Seems that Windows 10 also comes last when it comes to 7-zip 32mb dictonary compression speeds aswell! Storage speeds don't look too good either for Windows 10 the whole way through the margin of difference is less than 2% in CrystalDiskMark acorss the board. As we get into the gaming benchmarks and stability which lets face facts; that is why you are still here...

We can see again a whooping 2-3 FPS difference between all three with the exception of Tomb Raider DX11 (High Quality) which has basically a single frames difference! Your case is not looking too good here again. Infact the conclusion concludes that Windows 10 was the ONLY OS to actually cause a couple bugs and annoyances in games.

Personally I conclude that these results are more about the softwares engine's ability to use the system resources and less about which OS you run. So what do you have to say for yourself now since you like to talk.

To everbody else sorry for the de-rail I hope you can forgive, I was just getting tired of this dude and his/hers endless blame.


Side Note:
If we were to compare all three OS's on a enterprise level we would see something even more shocking as big money companies usually will not deploy a new OS for a good five years after a new OS is released and a lot of the time software is written OS specific so actually upgrading would break thier system not fix it! [/quote]
Thanks for details, man! I suppose its not supposed to help me with Carmageddon Max Damage crashing, but this is another fact that is Windows 10 is sucks. All games works good at my PC, and I reply again - C:MD DONT CRASHED UNTILL 31th OCTOBER UPDATE(I dont remember for sure when it was). Latest patch doesnt help me to solve this trouble.
Originally posted by Agent 47.5:
Originally posted by Hel:
I have win7 and the game works perfectly. I just get a loud crackling noise from my speakers in some matches while fighting some cars (like from chapter 11-12ish), sometimes it disappears while still in the match sometimes I have to finish the match, but it always stops when I'm back in the menus. Sometimes the music becomes like 2 times higher for some reason (like it ignores in game audio options for a bit) when I'm almost done at loading a match. It lasts 1-2 secs, not a big deal.
Seriously it never crashed till today, can't speak for the future lol but... I'm not here saying "boooo your pc sucks" I'm just saying check if other people with your GPU or CPU had the same issue.

the game isnt broken, these trolls know that. for some reason they totally insistant on hating on the game out of ego/ignorance. i would say their pc DOES suck, and thats the reason they have crashing/issues. they can't admit that fact so they blame the game. its really sad. That, and an outdated buggy OS like windows 7, it would explain alot.
I dont blame this game. I like Carmageddon, and this game is funny for me. But I dont like to play with crashes and bugs, cause "something is wrong with update". Thats not yours opinion to tell me or others who doesnt have i7 with 8-16gb RAM with 1080gtx etc things like "their pc does suck". If you wanna give me a PC, what is NOT suck - do it. But dont tell a ♥♥♥♥ on forums with your 2 hours in game. I played ~10-12 hours with NO crashes before 31th october update.

If you cant help me with it do not write a ♥♥♥♥ in topic.
Mo¡stDreams Dec 3, 2016 @ 3:58am 
I can say for certain turning off in game anti alias and depth of field that I managed to play for a solid three hours no sound bugs no crash. To compensate I enabled the anti aliasing via the driver control panel this worked fine. I also disabled vertical sync in game and again enabled a fps lock via the driver.

Can see if that works for you too :)


I do need to correct you though, I didn't say directly that windows 10 sucked it's still a fairly decent improvement in many areas other than just raw performance. My rant was just to pull his/her head out and realize that your OS being older is not why the game crashes. It is crashing for both us and quite a few other players have issues too on a wide range of operating system configurations which can use this information to rule out a single OS being the problem.
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👽H€L¡XX® Dec 4, 2016 @ 7:00am 
Originally posted by Agent 47.5:
Originally posted by Misunderstood Wookiee:
I can say for certain turning off in game anti alias and depth of field that I managed to play for a solid three hours no sound bugs no crash. To compensate I enabled the anti aliasing via the driver control panel this worked fine. I also disabled vertical sync in game and again enabled a fps lock via the driver.

Can see if that works for you too :)


I do need to correct you though, I didn't say directly that windows 10 sucked it's still a fairly decent improvement in many areas other than just raw performance. My rant was just to pull his/her head out and realize that your OS being older is not why the game crashes. It is crashing for both us and quite a few other players have issues too on a wide range of operating system configurations which can use this information to rule out a single OS being the problem.


windows 7 is actually known to be highly problematic in gaming. using an old, buggy, outdated OS, on a new game, well... thats just asking for it. windows 7 is a dead os. if people would jsut stop being ignorant, and upgrade to windows 10, there would be alot less hassles. but hey. that wont happen. those people are prolly the same people who think vaccinations cause autism.

Oh please stop, child.

Look at my profile page. I have and use Win7 SP1 (like a hell of a lot of gamers) and I don't have a problem with Max Damage (or any other game in my Steam library).

Win 7 SP1 is a very stable OS and still has the market share at 48%. That is 48% of PCs in the WORLD. Please stop posting irrelevent and false info here.

And I will be happy to post "proof" that my gaming needs are well served by Win7 SP1.

I have nothing against Win 10, but until the DX12 API is necessary for gaming your continued campaign for Windows 10 is null and void for most gamers. And a lot of games will not run on Win 10.

#knowledgeispower
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