How to deal with Raigon as a Ranged

[Ecstasy]

Anyone got any tips in dealing with this noob trap, I can seem to be able to win any match against him unless I get someone better on my team or they suck. I keep my distance as much as possible, but he just jumps in front of me, uses his parry and stuns me with the battlerite that makes him spin and that's just stupid. I play Taya btw.

[Bresha]

First off, what champion do you play?

[Ecstasy]

Originally posted by 欢乐:

First off, what champion do you play?

Taya

[WORIACH]

I play rook and just beat the crap out of him :0

[Ecstasy]

Originally posted by Woriach:

I play rook and just beat the crap out of him :0

I forgot to specify as a ranged champion.

[Serjibald]

My main is Raigon. And I feel pretty good matching vs Taya. It's to easy to facelock her. IMO, you should fillup ur ex-bar to R or ex-Q for aditional kite. Overall, I think it's too hard to outplay Raigon as Taya, IMO. You must be just rly good...

[Bresha]

Okay, so I am far from a good Taya player nor a Raigon player.
But I often face Raigon and when I support, it can get annoying really fast. So I can at least give you some advices as to what to do and what to not do in general.

First thing his parry. You probably don't know it, but your E (Wind Bomb) interrupts any channeled skill, even counters.
So when you see Raigon with his parry, throw your E Wind Bomb, it will just interrupt his parry.
What you can do is E -> RMB, Raigon is left with nothing and just hit your rangs full force in the face. If you interrupt the counter, the battlerites don't activate.

Don't use anything else, it will just trigger the parry.

I recommend going for the trendy haste build, it will give you enough mobility to kite him around and just kill him before he could understan what's happening.

Here is the loadout in case you don't already know about it : https://puu.sh/ynatz.png
The idea is to use Space, E and Q to keep Haste going for the longest duration possible.

Second advice I can give you, be sure to be next a wall. With the Cyclone battlerite for your Wind Strike (Q) you can just throw Raigon into the wall and stun him and use RMB right after it.

You can also use your R if things get nasty and you really can't get away.

If you really don't have a choice and must run like a madman around the map with Raigon chasing you, EX1 is your friend. Just use it and run in the opposite direction. It doesn't have a maximum range and will follow you until it catches up to you or hit a wall.
You can also use your EX2 to knock him away into a wall.


That's it, with that you should do fine, or wait until a Taya main comes in :p
Last advice : check Averse twitch channel, best Taya around, I swear his strafe game is so good you will wet your pants.
https://www.twitch.tv/averse

[Authentic Mikutard]

When your oponent feels like a wall you have to delegate extra CC or numbers pressure from your partner. Since it is after all, at it's base, a team arena game.

Many times in a panick people use distance building abilities with their full attention solely placed on the enemy and distance themselves further from a supporting ally.

[Loot Hoarder]

save windbomb to cancel his counter, and use haste to avoid getting hit by his seismic shock, other than that keep your distance at max and kite him, since that ♥♥♥♥ has ton on dashes

[Ecstasy]

Originally posted by 欢乐:

Okay, so I am far from a good Taya player nor a Raigon player.
But I often face Raigon and when I support, it can get annoying really fast. So I can at least give you some advices as to what to do and what to not do in general.

First thing his parry. You probably don't know it, but your E (Wind Bomb) interrupts any channeled skill, even counters.
So when you see Raigon with his parry, throw your E Wind Bomb, it will just interrupt his parry.
What you can do is E -> RMB, Raigon is left with nothing and just hit your rangs full force in the face. If you interrupt the counter, the battlerites don't activate.

Don't use anything else, it will just trigger the parry.

I recommend going for the trendy haste build, it will give you enough mobility to kite him around and just kill him before he could understan what's happening.

Here is the loadout in case you don't already know about it : https://puu.sh/ynatz.png
The idea is to use Space, E and Q to keep Haste going for the longest duration possible.

Second advice I can give you, be sure to be next a wall. With the Cyclone battlerite for your Wind Strike (Q) you can just throw Raigon into the wall and stun him and use RMB right after it.

You can also use your R if things get nasty and you really can't get away.

If you really don't have a choice and must run like a madman around the map with Raigon chasing you, EX1 is your friend. Just use it and run in the opposite direction. It doesn't have a maximum range and will follow you until it catches up to you or hit a wall.
You can also use your EX2 to knock him away into a wall.


That's it, with that you should do fine, or wait until a Taya main comes in :p
Last advice : check Averse twitch channel, best Taya around, I swear his strafe game is so good you will wet your pants.
https://www.twitch.tv/averse

I didn't expect such an in-depth guide, thank you very much, yeah I can see how I've been doing some things wrong, I knew E cancelled channels, but had forgotten parry counted as one and that it'd get cancelled from that, I always reacted with using my Q and that just killed me every time. Thanks for the loadout, I'll make sure to try it out and will also check out Averse, see if I can pick up some things from him.

[Bresha]

Originally posted by Ecstasy:

I didn't expect such an in-depth guide, thank you very much, yeah I can see how I've been doing some things wrong, I knew E cancelled channels, but had forgotten parry counted as one and that it'd get cancelled from that, I always reacted with using my Q and that just killed me every time. Thanks for the loadout, I'll make sure to try it out and will also check out Averse, see if I can pick up some things from him.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=964454877

Here you go, a guide explaining what triggers and what doesn't trigger counters. :)

[Ecstasy]

Originally posted by 欢乐:

[quote=Ecstasy;2425614361134754331
I didn't expect such an in-depth guide, thank you very much, yeah I can see how I've been doing some things wrong, I knew E cancelled channels, but had forgotten parry counted as one and that it'd get cancelled from that, I always reacted with using my Q and that just killed me every time. Thanks for the loadout, I'll make sure to try it out and will also check out Averse, see if I can pick up some things from him.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=964454877

Here you go, a guide explaining what triggers and what doesn't trigger counters. :) [/quote]
Thanks for all the help.

[Ecstasy]

Thanks to everyone posting on how to keep him away, it really helps, I'll put it all to practice.

[Nuupa]

Cry

[Authentic Mikutard]

Originally posted by Suolatikku:

Cry

I don't think Raigon got nerfed with 'mercy' yet xD

[HighLanderPony]

I guess dodging E is top priority.