what is the best combo and loadout for jade and raigon?

[Delaborga]

i would love to know how to utilize this perfectly in a 1v1 situation for maximum damage and survival :) any tips?

[Nodoka]

Originally posted by mikkiz1990:

i would love to know how to utilize this perfectly in a 1v1 situation for maximum damage and survival :) any tips?

Champions with petrify are in general very strong with Jade cause its very easy to set up for snipe.

Anyway Jade pairs great up with characters like Oldur and Poloma.
As for loadouts I wouldnt say there is like a number one loadout for each of them - Some I consider mandatory no matter what but you mix and match depending on what team comp you are against.

[KtX2SkD]

Depends on tactics, and both teams' builds. When I Raigon, I try to spear the strike hard and independent, sometimes so extreme allies can't follow me easily.

Hence the loadout below, which emphasizes aggressiveness and some sustain to help with the solo-dive:

• Heavenly Strike (Space):
  
  • Overflowing Power / Heal.
    
  • Royal Descent / Damage + Snare.
• Parry (Q):
  
  • Duelist / Heal.
    
  • Riposte / Damage + Stun.
• Dragon Palm (R):
  
  • Dragon Mastery / Double-cast.

Despite all that, having an escape plan is necessary as well...

[Nodoka]

Originally posted by KtX2SkD:

Depends on tactics, and both teams' builds. When I Raigon, I try to spear the strike hard and independent, sometimes so extreme allies can't follow me easily.

Hence the loadout below, which emphasizes aggressiveness and some sustain to help with the solo-dive:

• Heavenly Strike (Space):
  
  • Overflowing Power / Heal.
    
  • Royal Descent / Damage + Snare.
• Parry (Q):
  
  • Duelist / Heal.
    
  • Riposte / Damage + Stun.
• Dragon Palm (R):
  
  • Dragon Mastery / Double-cast.

Despite all that, having an escape plan is necessary as well...

Riposte cute, free counter for the enemy team.

[KtX2SkD]

Originally posted by Nodoka100%:

Riposte cute, free counter for the enemy team.

You mean them countering the counter? Meh, make them cast first, manual-cancel, break with movement or jump. Can't play like a bot and expect to win...

[delu]

Originally posted by KtX2SkD:

Originally posted by Nodoka100%:

Riposte cute, free counter for the enemy team.

You mean them countering the counter? Meh, make them cast first, manual-cancel, break with movement or jump. Can't play like a bot and expect to win...

parry has longer duration than countesr so it's impossible to "make them cast first" unless you ment wait for them to use it and than try to parry. anyone above gold will just wait to the very end of parry to pop own counter for a free proc. riposte is garbage rite and noone who wants to ever get anywhere should use it

as for jade: never leave the house without delight, 2 space rites (longer stun/shorter cd against double melee, blast vault/shorter cd vs anything else) and the one that shortens stealth cd with m1 hits (exQ every 6-8 seconds is very strong), last rite is optional tho i prefer extra snipe dmg

she pairs fairly well with anything, enabling champions are just a little bonus, she is a powerhouse on her own when played properly (no double snipes, never opening with stealth, knowing when to exm2, never using naked Q etc...)

[KtX2SkD]

That's what I meant, pressure them with the other measures to want/have to use their block. One should be able to do so about half the time, otherwise there's a different issue at hand. By the way, the 7 blocks I know of, are all same or shorter than Raigon's.

Also, cancelling blocks late whether normally or by another cast, is still viable. If the issue is the loadout slot going into something never landing, may I note that landing it might not even be as much of value as controlling the opponent's casts. Who cares about landing them measly Ripostes versus opening more angles for them breaking Snipes?

Loadouts help, but field performance is the big boss.

[delu]

from my shifu/freya experience i know i can intentionaly m1 the parry so the raigon stays by me thinking he'll riposte me as well and i still have time to counter when the initial stun ends... works 100% of the time, that's how dumb riposte users seem to me