Not a moba without ban and draft.

[Merica Madman]

When is this coming into the game?

[OnionSama]

its not hard to see this game kinda feels like WoW's arena bringin draft and ban would ruin its charm but ofc i would like to remind in WoW ranked Arena PvP u have to play with premades no solo que ranked option
but still every game has draft in it is toxic anyway don't bring it
and ban isn't really necessary game feels balanced so far

about being MOBA or not
if u think about how MOBA used in gaming language
no its not a moba
if u think about what literal description of MOBA is
yes its MOBA but not only Battlerite also %90 of the other non-singleplayer games are MOBA as well

as an extra: game doesn't really have anything to do with LoL and DotA instead of camera view
like i said before this game mostly feels like WoW's arena pvp not LoL or DotA

[Christoph Kolumbus]

still waiting

[76561198028277396]

Publicado originalmente por Merica Madman:

It's a moba.

No, it isn't. It's a team arena brawler.

They never said anywhere that it's a MOBA or advertised it like that. This whole nonsense is coming from MOBA players who arrived with f2p because they thought this will be a MOBA (because of top-down view or whatever) and crying that it isn't.

Sure, if we try to take the term MOBA literally then it is. But then CS:GO, SC and kind of every online pvp game is a 'MOBA'. But in the real sense of MOBA, no, it isn't, this is a different genre.

[shiny_dirk]

Publicado originalmente por Merica Madman:

When is this coming into the game?

probably coming to the game once the devs feel there is enough champions available overall to justify a ban system

[Merica Madman]

It's a MOBA / DOTA style game. Do you ppl know where and how DOTA style games started? WC3 as a mod. It was called DOTA! It started as just heroes fighting in a mid point. It's the same damn thing in Battlerite. Call it what you want but you need draft and bans in competition mode for it to be COMPETITION. Otherwise, you have RNG comps and people just playing the most broken hero; logic.

[76561198028277396]

Publicado originalmente por Merica Madman:

It's a MOBA / DOTA style game.

No it isn't. There are just a very few similarities. This a different genre, called 'team arena brawler'. SLS never said this is a MOBA either, as it isn't.

Publicado originalmente por Merica Madman:

Do you ppl know where and how DOTA style games started? WC3 as a mod. It was called DOTA! It started as just heroes fighting in a mid point.

I so much know that I played DotA Allstars back then. And no, it wasn't 'heroes fighting in a mid point' at all (wtf?!). It was a custom map for an RTS game, called 'Defense of the Ancients' and it had three lanes, two bases and kind of everything what you need for a MOBA.
Btw, it was based on the earlier Aeon Strife mod for StarCraft what already had 3 lanes.

Publicado originalmente por Merica Madman:

It's the same damn thing in Battlerite.

No, defo not.

Publicado originalmente por Merica Madman:

Call it what you want but you need draft and bans in competition mode for it to be COMPETITION. Otherwise, you have RNG comps and people just playing the most broken hero; logic.

'Logic':

1. Without premade teams there's no 'competition', nor tournaments. Solo queue is just a casual fun mode, never was 'competitive' anywhere. And a premade team can discuss its composition easily, there's no 'RNG comps'.
2. If there are no 'broken heroes' it's hard to play them.
3. MOBAs are just a slice of competitive gaming and the rest is doing well without borrowing these MOBA features.

[HighLanderPony]

'It's a MOBA!'

'It isn't a MOBA!'

This, ad infinitum.

Man the idiocy still goes strong around here, I see.

[Connatic]

Publicado originalmente por Merica Madman:

Dude you're too literal... it's a moba / dota. No bans or draft = gg.

Battlerite is as much a MOBA as Overwatch is.

Being an MOBA has nothing to do with whether or not a game needs a draft mode.

[screeno42]

I doubt they'll be added simply because players select their characters before queuing, not after being matched like in smite, LoL and DOTA.

[Bantarific]

You don't need a "pick/ban" phase, what you need is so that people pick their champs AFTER they get matched. That way they can actually communicate and be like "I'm good at [insert champion name], can you pick someone that has good syngery with them?" rather than the absolute gamble that is this current matchmaking.

[ele]

Never, hopefully. Ban and draft are dumb.

[76561198028277396]

Publicado originalmente por Bantarific:

You don't need a "pick/ban" phase, what you need is so that people pick their champs AFTER they get matched. That way they can actually communicate and be like "I'm good at [insert champion name], can you pick someone that has good syngery with them?" rather than the absolute gamble that is this current matchmaking.

The problem with this, that opposite to MOBAs where if you're good in a role you can have a pretty decent performance with any champ in that role, as they're mechanically very simple and similar tbh, in Battlerite most champs have a very distinct playstyle with a lot of mechanical skills what you have to practice.
This, together with the thing that we don't have different ratings for champs or anything like that, leads to a situation when most of the playerbase are one trick ponies, even at high ranks. If you play more than one champ, there will be 1-2 what you're far better with than the rest anyway.

So, if we have a pick phase what you suggested, how will it turn out in practice? What if the game just match up two Raigon mains with a Croak main?
In higher ranks maybe they will try to sort out an acceptable team comp, what will lead to most of them playing champs they aren't experienced with, leading to unfair division loss against more lucky enemies.
In lower ranks it would be the good old 'I will play Raigon! You can't pick Croak you have to pick [insert champ]! Omg report noob uninstall!!'.

The only real way to have an organised team and a proper competitive environment is to play with premade teams (probably that's why there are no soloQ tournaments...).

[Merica Madman]

This community is dumb af

[FortheLoveofCher]

wow merica madman is super retarded. google what a moba is you inbred 11 yr old

[Nodoka]

"Multiplayer Online Battle Arena"
Im pretty sure you can squeeze in Battlerite in there.
It's online its multiplayer its a battle arena > Battlerite fits just fine in the moba genre.