Pestilus NERF PLZ

[c0ndu]

Pestilus the new hero is completely and utterly broken. He's a Rook+Poloma+Ezmo? on roids. He does way too much dps(burst dps) and heal(heal overtime and burst heal). Also his ult? IT LITERALLY DOES 150 DAMAGE if you land all your scarabs, no other ult does that damage.

[Achrileg]

I've played a bit with Pestilus, mainly because I loved Blood Priest to death, and I was disappointed a bit about the fact that he's not Blood Priest. T.T

But he's a healer, with supbar damage. He is unique, but can be easily rushed down. What I don't get is why are you whining about him being different? He has some really unique mechanics for this game, yet you want all healers to play the same? ♥♥♥♥ that, don't make the game one dimensional.

[c0ndu]

Messaggio originale di Lokowi:

Messaggio originale di Racismsux:

i have no problems against him, i play him an still think he is to strong didnt told he is broken u said that i just gave a idea or a nerf.

If you have "no problems against him" and you just consider him "a little strong" after only a few days, chances are there is no reason to sound the balance alarms then. Sensationalizing balance is what ends up ruining champions.

He takes mid orb in 3 attacks(2 lmb 1 rmb) while a DPS like Shifu takes it in like what? 4 HITS?(AS A DPS?) Secondly his RMB does 30 whole damage but also has a super fast animation, not like Jumong/Jade.

[exoLL]

I don't think Pestilus needs any nerf ┐(´-｀)┌
his kit is pretty balanced, considering his lack of escape and cosistent sustain, he's easy to focus and take down.. so the offensive abilities are just fine the way they are.

[Sikari]

Messaggio originale di eli:

I don't think Pestilus needs any nerf ┐(´-｀)┌
his kit is pretty balanced, considering his lack of escape and cosistent sustain, he's easy to focus and take down.. so the offensive abilities are just fine the way they are.

This is exactly it, and what's I've been saying. Most people who hate support, it's usually because they don't know how to SAFELY apply constant pressure to the support.

Pestilus is that exact same concept except even worse. He has amazing sustain if you fart around a ton and he gets moth on everyone. Focus him down with a few good burst cycles, there isn't much he can do... he heals for 2 whole HP plus a HoT 2 more per second IF he's constantly hitting, and then has a 10 sec CD queen. He doesn't burst heal, heavy pressure VERY easily creates "true damage" situations with him.

Stop complaining a few days after release, it just gets old. It's been the same with pretty much every new character so far, including a few "Rook is OP" even when he was actually determined to be garbage. Just... at least try to figure it out first...

[c0ndu]

Messaggio originale di eli:

I don't think Pestilus needs any nerf ┐(´-｀)┌
his kit is pretty balanced, considering his lack of escape and cosistent sustain, he's easy to focus and take down.. so the offensive abilities are just fine the way they are.

What do you mean no escape are you serious? He has space people always take the double battlerite space. So you basically Space stay full duration space again stay full duration then space away. If an enemy comes close you can just fear him, if you miss fear you can just use Queen to get some heal on yourself while damaging the opponent, and if you're not focused you dish more damage than a DPS and heal a lot as a support :) sounds balanced to me

[snekMom]

Messaggio originale di Lokowi:

Messaggio originale di eli:

I don't think Pestilus needs any nerf ┐(´-｀)┌
his kit is pretty balanced, considering his lack of escape and cosistent sustain, he's easy to focus and take down.. so the offensive abilities are just fine the way they are.

This is exactly it, and what's I've been saying. Most people who hate support, it's usually because they don't know how to SAFELY apply constant pressure to the support.

Pestilus is that exact same concept except even worse. He has amazing sustain if you fart around a ton and he gets moth on everyone. Focus him down with a few good burst cycles, there isn't much he can do... he heals for 2 whole HP plus a HoT 2 more per second IF he's constantly hitting, and then has a 10 sec CD queen. He doesn't burst heal, heavy pressure VERY easily creates "true damage" situations with him.

Stop complaining a few days after release, it just gets old. It's been the same with pretty much every new character so far, including a few "Rook is OP" even when he was actually determined to be garbage. Just... at least try to figure it out first...

The problem with him is that hes one of those characters that are way too strong in low to mid tiers of play in how consistently easy he is for how strong of an impact there is from him just being on the field.

I mean seriously i had a 3v3 today, Freya (me), Pestilus and Jade vs Ashka, Bakko and Poloma.
We won. Our Pestilus was on his 3rd match in this game ever, and got an MVP by just being trash and spamming all his abilities at all times.

I swear i felt shame for winning like that.

But maybe thats just a general problem of the game, supports being way too big game changers in general at middle/low tiers of play.

[Sikari]

Messaggio originale di AdamTM:

Messaggio originale di Lokowi:

This is exactly it, and what's I've been saying. Most people who hate support, it's usually because they don't know how to SAFELY apply constant pressure to the support.

Pestilus is that exact same concept except even worse. He has amazing sustain if you fart around a ton and he gets moth on everyone. Focus him down with a few good burst cycles, there isn't much he can do... he heals for 2 whole HP plus a HoT 2 more per second IF he's constantly hitting, and then has a 10 sec CD queen. He doesn't burst heal, heavy pressure VERY easily creates "true damage" situations with him.

Stop complaining a few days after release, it just gets old. It's been the same with pretty much every new character so far, including a few "Rook is OP" even when he was actually determined to be garbage. Just... at least try to figure it out first...

The problem with him is that hes one of those characters that are way too strong in low to mid tiers of play in how consistently easy he is for how strong of an impact there is from him just being on the field.

I mean seriously i had a 3v3 today, Freya (me), Pestilus and Jade vs Ashka, Bakko and Poloma.
We won. Our Pestilus was on his 3rd match in this game ever, and got an MVP by just being trash and spamming all his abilities at all times.

I swear i felt shame for winning like that.

But maybe thats just a general problem of the game, supports being way too big game changers in general at middle/low tiers of play.

It's not a him problem, it's a support problem. But it's not really fixable. Game's can't be balanced around "I've played for like 2 days". You just really can't even start to do that. People need to learn/understand that Support is only OP when you don't apply pressure. A hard lesson is probably necessary because people just refuse to accept/understand that. If they kill him off though because people like to run around and let people heal up all the time, I mean... How would they ever fare when people don't just do that?

It's not even a low tier issue, if you ask me he's kind of an easy low-tier to kill, in terms of support, because (assuming both are low-mid tier), he has very little direct self healing, so really any pressure at all without good back up can make most bad Pests panic, infest early and then just die. Especially if they throw RMBs willy-nilly and help with their own demise.

In general though, low tier, supports will always top points because they get the leverage to be aggressive too often when people aren't applying pressure- or they do apply pressure but stand in peoples' line of fire the whole time.

[snekMom]

Messaggio originale di Lokowi:

Messaggio originale di AdamTM:

The problem with him is that hes one of those characters that are way too strong in low to mid tiers of play in how consistently easy he is for how strong of an impact there is from him just being on the field.

I mean seriously i had a 3v3 today, Freya (me), Pestilus and Jade vs Ashka, Bakko and Poloma.
We won. Our Pestilus was on his 3rd match in this game ever, and got an MVP by just being trash and spamming all his abilities at all times.

I swear i felt shame for winning like that.

But maybe thats just a general problem of the game, supports being way too big game changers in general at middle/low tiers of play.

It's not a him problem, it's a support problem. But it's not really fixable. Game's can't be balanced around "I've played for like 2 days". You just really can't even start to do that. People need to learn/understand that Support is only OP when you don't apply pressure. A hard lesson is probably necessary because people just refuse to accept/understand that. If they kill him off though because people like to run around and let people heal up all the time, I mean... How would they ever fare when people don't just do that?

It's not even a low tier issue, if you ask me he's kind of an easy low-tier to kill, in terms of support, because (assuming both are low-mid tier), he has very little direct self healing, so really any pressure at all without good back up can make most bad Pests panic, infest early and then just die. Especially if they throw RMBs willy-nilly and help with their own demise.

In general though, low tier, supports will always top points because they get the leverage to be aggressive too often when people aren't applying pressure- or they do apply pressure but stand in peoples' line of fire the whole time.

So you agree that once the support enters the field hes the only game in town?

[Sikari]

If you're not very good, or your partner isn't very good, sure. No one should be balancing around that though.

[rat ☭]

gonna echo what a few have already said - pestilus is vulnerable to being focused down. watch for his space and attack while it's on cooldown. if you are unable to damage him with that strategy, you are just getting outplayed, which is good news! you can nerf him yourself just by buffing your brain

[Daxter]

Its always the same story,new champ come out and ppls cry instant op/broke.
Play him self guys and u will learn his weakness!.Maybe ppls cry then buff...

[Waynedetta]

He has serious problems doding important spells like:
Sirius petrify, Palomas Wolves, Rook Charge(Blockable with bee but still) due to his only escape having a 0.3 sec castanimation. I played him straight to level 10 in Gold which means I am playing a alot against R11/12 and I can not imagine all those people here complaining are or have been high ranks.
Hes easy to focus because all of his spells have this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ long delays his R is a joke, his space and fear have super long delays, no instant escape/counter like the other healers. He feels SUPERSQUISHY. Iam back to oldur mfg.

[Dauntless Duelist]

He has issues dealing with ultimates, as soon as his one mobility is down you can ult him.

[Waynedetta]

Messaggio originale di Dauntless Duelist:

He has issues dealing with ultimates, as soon as his one mobility is down you can ult him.

Yea totally forgott that one, also his bee is a "free target" for paloma wolves.

[Reptile]

Dude pestilus sucks, he is way to easy to dodge and his q is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ useless because once someone sees the queen they just simply walk out of the circle, they should buff him.