Why do people insist on calling it a MOBA?

[FabianBlaha]

I personally think it does the game more harm than good.

A traditional MOBA have some very distinctive gameplay elements, like laning, creeps, jungle, bases and structures, income and items.
Battlerite on the other hand has none of this. In-fact the only striking similarity Battlerite has with traditional MOBAs are champions with abilities.
Overwatch also has this.
Paladins also has this.
Not to mention all the games with classes that borders very close with the same concept.

So why then, do some people insist on calling it a MOBA?
Why would one even think of the genre when there is literally only ONE single element truly similar?
It's highly miss-representative IMO, and it should be categorized in to a genre that does it more justice.

Team Arena Brawler is what SLS them self is calling it, so why don't players do it too?

["Come to the Chopper"]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Fabian Blaha MarquisToken:

"The term “MOBA” is unavoidably associated with, and defined by games such as League of Legends and Dota 2. It is to the general public a genre where you push lanes, take down towers, kill minions, progress your hero over the course of a match for the target goal of destroying the enemy base. Battlerite doesn’t have any of that and even though the term “MOBA” literally is a great match with the gameplay of Battlerite, it’s not a great match in terms of what people would expect from Battlerite if it were to be used. That’s why we choose to go with Team Arena Brawler instead."


Let's see:

push lanes? Nope

Kill minions? Nope

towers? nope

progess your hero over the course of a match? Nope.

Enemy base? Nope

If a game has literally 0 similiarity with another genre, it's rather silly to call it that.

"Counter-Strike is a economy simulation game because you can buy stuff"

Yeah...

[NieR]

best game

[GeoStigma]

Or maybe the ones doing the game so much harm are you guys who are trying to hard to serperate yourselves from other gaming crowds. This game is a moba there were others before it , and it fits the definition.

[FabianBlaha]

Diposting pertama kali oleh GeoStigma:

Or maybe the ones doing the game so much harm are you guys who are trying to hard to serperate yourselves from other gaming crowds. This game is a moba there were others before it , and it fits the definition.

Well, considering the developers them self want's to distance it from the term MOBA, I don't think your statement is right.

[Timeraider]

A traditional moba is an arena where players fight.. its NOT laning, nor creeps..

[Foox]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Timeraider:

A traditional moba is an arena where players fight.. its NOT laning, nor creeps..

So... Call of duty?

[FabianBlaha]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Timeraider:

A traditional moba is an arena where players fight.. its NOT laning, nor creeps..

Then why did RIOT coin the term? And why does the wikipedia page on the MOBA genre include all these elements? And why is the popular consensus that when you say MOBA to someone, they think about LoL, Dota, Smite and Paragon? Why isn't Overwatch and Team Fortress the games that comes to mind?
Is it maybe because in popular opinion, a MOBA does include these elements?

[Outlaw]

I would call it a battle arena with very small map and lack of champions, maybe the future will change this but for now its just a mass brawl with no specific reason!!!!

[Dauntless Duelist]

It would be more apropriate to call Battlerite a fighting game than a MOBA, because it takes more elements from fighting games than MOBAs. The literal definition of MOBA is not the actual definition we use for it. MOBA is in general a bad term and should not be used to describe things outside of "DotA-likes". DotA-like was the original term, which Riot did not want to use and thus made up their own overly broad term, MOBA. ARTS is the term Valve calls DotA2, and I think that term is much better than MOBA, but will unfortunately not be used and is still overly broad.

tl;dr describing videogames without referencing a videogame or being overly broad about it is hard.

[Bièrezerker]

When i tell people around me about this game, I say it's like Overwatch in 2D controls, in an team deathmatch arena game mode. It's a long description, but better to me. MOBA is in people's head a dead game since release. People won't get rid of LoL or Dota to play another "MOBA". We see it with the heroes of the storm failure, although it's a blizzard game.

[biggi]

I would call it a "multiplayer online battle arena" but not a MOBA.

[The_Technomancer]

I personally refer to it as a "mini-MOBA" since, while you're right and it takes more elements from a fighting game, calling it a fighting game typically leads my friends to assume it's like mortal combat gameplay wise. When I found the game I knew it wasn't really like dota at all but from first sight i assumed it looked like only the teamfight aspect of dota.

Compared to the term "FPS" which focuses on where your camera is and what you're doing, the term "MOBA" focuses on where you are instead. All an FPS needs is for you to be first person and to shoot things, it doesn't matter what or how you shoot just as long as you shoot. A MOBA just needs an arena that's online, doesn't matter what you do in the arena just as long as you're in one.

Gameplay comes first in a game and having a genre label that focuses on where you are over what you're doing would inevitably lead to problems such as the one we have here. Since you can do practically anything in an arena that's where the confusion comes from. Battlerite focuses on teamfighting completely, dota/league has farming and pushing, smite has the same but throws out top down for close up third person action. We'd need separate labels for them all since their actual gameplay mechanics are quite different.

I'd find a Third person Arena Fighter to be more apt for battlerite, since it covers essentially what it does without leaving room for the mortal combat gameplay assumption. Games like Dota and League could keep the term "MOBA" since people have already become accustomed to using them and already associate laning/farming gameplay with it.

[FB Estrogen]

Hey, I made this new game with a new genre, it's called "online versus video game" it can be applied to just about every game, but let's make it into a very certain genre for no reason

["Come to the Chopper"]

So funny that people never heard of twin stick shooters or any other game than LoL.

The younger generation is so screwed, it's not even funny.

[Shizit]

Don't worry guys, it just brain dies after 1.5k hours in dota2 or cs:go. So don't take op sirious