Isn't being banned for being toxic (which is a part of human psychology itself) a bit too absurd?

[B__ri__d__ge]

How about a 1 week chat ban, if thats too lame how about a 1 month/6 months/1 year/2 years/permament one?

[FEd]

Автор сообщения: RhodosGuard

"A robber should receive the death penalty, its the only reason he'll learn not to steal"

Crime and Punishment should be in a relation.

Not being able to play a game is such a big deal to you? You might need to reconsider your life if that's the case honestly.

[RhodosGuard]

Автор сообщения: Shifu God

Автор сообщения: RhodosGuard

"A robber should receive the death penalty, its the only reason he'll learn not to steal"

Crime and Punishment should be in a relation.

Not being able to play a game is such a big deal to you? You might need to reconsider your life if that's the case honestly.

Oh look someone on whom a simile is completely lost

Unless the point was not completely clear:
There is no reason to go further in punishment than the crime constitutes.
Dealing in absolute punishments is just plain unfair. In a game as it is in real life.
You might as well say:
"Life in Prison without parole for a thief, so he learns not to steal"

[RhodosGuard]

Автор сообщения: Codester

Автор сообщения: RhodosGuard

Mute me if you cant deal with what I type.
Same argumentation than what you wrote. And it doesnt force others to act for your demand.

Victim blaming? No, you should just stop yourself from acting like a piece of sh!t. That's the bottom line end of story truth.

Just saying that you cannot expect toxic people to stop typing. So if you encounter one, its more realistic to mute them, than to expect them to disable their chat.

[Tea-Yen Savage YTube]

There seems to be some confusion around here. The chat ban I'm suggesting is one where the player is banned from sending any messages in-game. So the can still receive them, they just can't send back.

This is way better than permabans, my brother is a very toxic League of Legends player, he has 4 or 5 permabans and he keeps being toxic anyways, in fact, I think it got worse over time.
Before League of Legends used to drop the ban hammer on toxic players, they used to give them chat restrictions, which actually helped to keep my brother in check a lot better.

Let me tell you, toxic people don't want to be toxic. They just want to play the game, permabanning them, thus removing all their progress and lettnig them start over along with all the noobs actually has a negative effect on them, making them even more toxic.

[RhodosGuard]

Автор сообщения: daisukekeita

There seems to be some confusion around here. The chat ban I'm suggesting is one where the player is banned from sending any messages in-game. So the can still receive them, they just can't send back.

This is way better than permabans, my brother is a very toxic League of Legends player, he has 4 or 5 permabans and he keeps being toxic anyways, in fact, I think it got worse over time.
Before League of Legends used to drop the ban hammer on toxic players, they used to give them chat restrictions, which actually helped to keep my brother in check a lot better.

Let me tell you, toxic people don't want to be toxic. They just want to play the game, permabanning them, thus removing all their progress and lettnig them start over along with all the noobs actually has a negative effect on them, making them even more toxic.

These people dont care.
Everyone who hurt their feelings deserves eternally being locked out of any game.

[Prime Empyrean]

Most the time the person being "toxic" is the better player. about 80% the time, the other 20% is someone having a really bad game/day and trying to find excuses so he blames the game/teammates or just admits he is doing bad and states other things on why he is. But most the time its not a 1 sided thing, it takes two to tango, and if someone is being toxic, someone is gonna respond and be toxic or instigate the situiation. kind of like "shifu god" with his statement of "git gud" that shows a instigater that dont help the situiation and adds fuel to the fire which should recieve the same punishment . I play with alot of bad players who call me bad or tell me to get good or play better , yet i got 200+ more score then them at the end of the game. its mind blowing how the logic of people(most likely kids) have in this game. Its annoying and pisses me off when i hear a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ say the dumbest thing like that. Toxic players are usually the better ones, why in most games it gets more toxic the higher rank you are until your pro then you get paid enough to be nice and fake it.
-i got 3 perma bann league accounts, havent played league since because i hate games that favor little kids with mothers credit card.-

[RhodosGuard]

Автор сообщения: P r i m e

Most the time the person being "toxic" is the better player. about 80% the time, the other 20% is someone having a really bad game/day and trying to find excuses so he blames the game/teammates or just admits he is doing bad and states other things on why he is. But most the time its not a 1 sided thing, it takes two to tango, and if someone is being toxic, someone is gonna respond and be toxic or instigate the situiation. kind of like "shifu god" with his statement of "git gud" that shows a instigater that dont help the situiation and adds fuel to the fire which should recieve the same punishment . I play with alot of bad players who call me bad or tell me to get good or play better , yet i got 200+ more score then them at the end of the game. its mind blowing how the logic of people(most likely kids) have in this game. Its annoying and pisses me off when i hear a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ say the dumbest thing like that. Toxic players are usually the better ones, why in most games it gets more toxic the higher rank you are until your pro then you get paid enough to be nice and fake it.
-i got 3 perma bann league accounts, havent played league since because i hate games that favor little kids with mothers credit card.-

I dont agree with this person. Just so you know. Toxicity is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and should be punished.
I just stand to believe that a permaban is too much for however much toxicity, when there are better ways to handle them.

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Автор сообщения: Shifu God

nah you toxic edgy kids will have to get used to the ban hammer im afraid. Git gud instead of being a ♥♥♥♥ =D

This is being toxic. You just choose to do it on forums.

[Antioxidant]

I don't see the problem with a chat restriction but if the player is being a flamer still and then start griefing then get that scrub out of the game and put them on a farm in the middle of nowhere so they can appreciate life again. lol

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Автор сообщения: Janfox

which is a part of human psychology itself

Being 'part of human psychology' isn't an excuse at all. Try to talk that way to strangers on the street, you will be so much 'banned' you will have to run away :)

But seriously: No, toxicity is not okay at all, don't look for excuses but improve it. A basic level of politness is mandatory for any civilised conversation or group activity. Don't get me wrong, I don't say you should talk like a nun, I throw around quite a lot of vulgarities too in online games. But I never flame strangers for being bad or didn't do what I wanted or whatever in a video game. And, somehow, I never ever had even a warning about my toxicity. What a coincidence.
Actually, we could just get rid of any toxicity filter as it is, but people can't behave. Think about old games like early days of WoW or Quake Arena and such, things were okay without a ban system. When somebody crossed the line the community itself votekicked them from servers and guilds. But the current gamer generation (let's call them 'LoL generation' :) ) is so toxic that a pub full of wasted West Ham supporters is a pretty polite place compared to an online match. Not just profanity but hardcore hate speech, racism and such.
Seriously, guys, what's wrong with you??

I don't think Battlerite has a toxic community at all. But I read it on reddit that since f2p launch toxicity skyrocketed, so I understand SLS wants to stop this before we turn into another LoL, OW or CS:GO.
But I agree with you in one thing, it shouldn't be a perm ban right away. Not even a temp ban and defo not a chat ban. It should be a warning at first that you are more toxic than accepted so hold yourself back or next time you will be banned. This way nobody can say they're suprised what just happened.
And again: I think we shouldn't even have a system for that. But then, you guys should pick up some basic level of politness somehow...

[Sanguine]

Автор сообщения: Janfox

How about a 1 week chat ban, if thats too lame how about a 1 month/6 months/1 year/2 years/permament one?

But I dont want to get banned for so long~

[Blogg]

whenever i see bans due to chat abuse instead of just chat lock it makes me not want to suport the game - i dotn care if someone "uses bad words" I can either respond in kind or mute , no big deal

[TerranWolf]

Автор сообщения: Janfox

How about a 1 week chat ban, if thats too lame how about a 1 month/6 months/1 year/2 years/permament one?

Murder is a part of human psychology, what's your point?

[RhodosGuard]

Автор сообщения: TerranWolf

Автор сообщения: Janfox

How about a 1 week chat ban, if thats too lame how about a 1 month/6 months/1 year/2 years/permament one?

Murder is a part of human psychology, what's your point?

The point is:
Toxic chat can be muted.
It does not directly influence gameplay or performance unless they also tilt or start griefing or you get tilted over them, which you shouldnt, cause you should mute them.

And people still want permabans for it.
I dunno how its handled right now, but I seriously do believe that an instant perma ban or even just an account suspension is a bit much for chatting. Especially since you can mute them.

I just think their chat should be restricted until they receive a permanent chat ban.
Only in, no out.
And then replace whatever they write with positive messages.

I think that hurts them more than being unable to play.
They'll always find other games or create new accounts.

[Zomba13]

Don't want to get banned? Don't be a ♥♥♥♥ to other people. It's really not a hard thing. It's good for games to have actual punishment for this sort of behaviour as it should make little Jimmy think twice before shouting racial or homophobic slurs at other players.