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R5N250E24 Apr 16, 2023 @ 2:23am
Diagonal dash broken
since recently, when i try dashing up-left the game seems to suddenly have a small region that directs the dash down-left instead.

Like, if i was to slowly rotate the stick counter-clockwise, it would dash up, up-left, down-left, left and down-left again.

It can't be my controller, since it happens to the steam and xbox one controller equally. i don't use the dpads because steam's suck and the xbox' is a bit ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up now.
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Perseus Apr 16, 2023 @ 2:29am 
Have you tried verifying the integrity of game files? (Library -> Right-click on game -> Properties -> Local files -> Verify integrity of game files)

Originally posted by R5N250E24:
since recently
Do you mean something changed between two relatively recent sessions, or that you hadn't played for a while and when you started playing again you had this issue?

I'm not too familiar with it, but maybe there's a problem with how the controller settings for Steam Input are set?
R5N250E24 Apr 16, 2023 @ 2:41am 
So i just tested the epic version and it works perfectly fine.

I did verify and reinstall, didn't do anything.


Originally posted by Perseus:
Do you mean something changed between two relatively recent sessions, or that you hadn't played for a while and when you started playing again you had this issue?

Yeah, i play it on and off, but usually only a couple days in between sessions.
since it's been a little while since it's started, i can't say for certain.

Originally posted by Perseus:
I'm not too familiar with it, but maybe there's a problem with how the controller settings for Steam Input are set?

i don't know. there is a good chance it happened after the overlay update steam had recently, but i don't know how likely that could be the case.
Perseus Apr 16, 2023 @ 2:51am 
Originally posted by R5N250E24:
i don't know. there is a good chance it happened after the overlay update steam had recently, but i don't know how likely that could be the case.
You could test that by deactivating Steam Overlay. (Library -> Right-click on game -> Properties -> General)
R5N250E24 Apr 16, 2023 @ 2:55am 
Originally posted by Perseus:
You could test that by deactivating Steam Overlay. (Library -> Right-click on game -> Properties -> General)
Sadly didn't do anything either. but thanks for trying.
Perseus Apr 16, 2023 @ 3:11am 
Have you tried messing with Steam Input? (Library -> Right-click on game -> Properties -> Controller)

Oh, also, did/can you test if this happen on other steam games?
Last edited by Perseus; Apr 16, 2023 @ 3:13am
R5N250E24 Apr 16, 2023 @ 3:24am 
Originally posted by Perseus:
Have you tried messing with Steam Input? (Library -> Right-click on game -> Properties -> Controller)
I just remembered the feathers, and flying works without issues, so it seems like the combination of some angles+ dashing is the problem? Since changing the dash button still results in the false dash
Perseus Apr 16, 2023 @ 4:44am 
Originally posted by R5N250E24:
Originally posted by Perseus:
Have you tried messing with Steam Input? (Library -> Right-click on game -> Properties -> Controller)
I just remembered the feathers, and flying works without issues, so it seems like the combination of some angles+ dashing is the problem? Since changing the dash button still results in the false dash
Good point about the feathers, i had forgotten about them. Water movement would probably yield the same results, then.

Since this appear to be a problem with the game itself, the only thing i can think of that might be causing this is mods.
Do you have any installed?

Alternatively, while i don't see how it could fix your issue, have you tried using a beta branch, like the OpenGL one? (Library -> Right-click on game -> Properties -> Betas)
R5N250E24 Apr 16, 2023 @ 5:21am 
Nope, don't use any mods or beta branches. completely vanilla (as far as i'm aware)
maybe something on a global file is corrupted? like something that's being read by the game independent from the profile you're playing on or something. which could explain why it's any controller but only this steam version and not from epic.
The file would be also backed up to the cloud to reinstalling won't have any effect.

That's the only logical conclusion i have at this point.
Perseus Apr 18, 2023 @ 1:45am 
Originally posted by R5N250E24:
Nope, don't use any mods or beta branches. completely vanilla (as far as i'm aware)
maybe something on a global file is corrupted? like something that's being read by the game independent from the profile you're playing on or something. which could explain why it's any controller but only this steam version and not from epic.
The file would be also backed up to the cloud to reinstalling won't have any effect.

That's the only logical conclusion i have at this point.
If you're interested in testing that, your save files, config files, and their backups should be located at :
Linux filepath : home/.local/share/Celeste/
File path for... Mac? : ~/Library/Application Support/Celeste/
Windows filepath : C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Celeste\
You could try moving them to a different folder temporarily, but you might need to deactivate Steam Cloud for Celeste to prevent it from restoring the files when launching the game.
Last edited by Perseus; Apr 18, 2023 @ 1:45am
R5N250E24 Apr 18, 2023 @ 7:28am 
that solved. so now i just add file after file or something and see what's broken and pray to all the gods i won't lose any safes lol

Thank you so much!

So it turns out that the problem was in Celeste>saves>settings.celeste. deleting it solved it, or rather returning that file brought the problem back.
Last edited by R5N250E24; Apr 18, 2023 @ 7:44am
Perseus Apr 18, 2023 @ 9:28am 
It's a good thing you mentioned a separate file.
I had thought about the settings file several times, but i had assumed that controller settings didn't allow to change stick movement, and especially with such a small angle, so i didn't mention it because i thought it couldn't be the issue, but apparently you can change movement bindings on controller relatively freely.

I think the exact cause was probably that it's possible to set movement bindings for dashes only, and some stick direction was set to the wrong direction for dashes only movement.

To have a small region that causes misdirections, i'm guessing the way controller angles work probably does something weird like separating an up-left input into up and left, but possibly in a different order depending on which direction the angle is closest to? I could be completely wrong, i have no idea how it actually works.
Last edited by Perseus; Apr 18, 2023 @ 9:29am
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