i really like this game but what is up with the wall jumps?

[Mad Catter]

they push you away or just in random directions and its kind of hard to be precise, i dont really understand why make the wall jump so hard to control

[コトラ]

If you jump off a wall while not holding any direction, you'll be pushed less than if you're pressing into the wall, which sounds counter-intuitive but makes sense. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction!
Doing the former allows you to climb up walls without using up any stamina (assuming you're not holding the grab button while jumping).

[Mad Catter]

Originally posted by コトラ:

If you jump off a wall while not holding any direction, you'll be pushed less than if you're pressing into the wall, which sounds counter-intuitive but makes sense. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction!
Doing the former allows you to climb up walls without using up any stamina (assuming you're not holding the grab button while jumping).

i see, but you often have to jump from wall to wall so you kind of have to hold the directional buttons down? any tips?

do i just have to like immediately let go once i get there? basically just being really really quick? i was like trying to do a zigzag and instead just kept falling down, never felt like i was stable on a wall even for a bit. i thought i was doing it fast too

[コトラ]

You kinda have to be rhythmic about it; you want to push into the wall after jumping, but release it just before you jump again. This GIF should make it easier to visualize (I will not link to the guide where this is from since it contains stuff learned later in the game; the game never actually teaches you about this wall jump trick).

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1826772383285143035/F85BA32CEF6A7ADE8817292F3405DAEB0535F7D4/

[Mad Catter]

Originally posted by コトラ:

You kinda have to be rhythmic about it; you want to push into the wall after jumping, but release it just before you jump again.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1826772383285143035/F85BA32CEF6A7ADE8817292F3405DAEB0535F7D4/

ok tankxxxx. i''ll try to get used to it. the only platformer/MV i played have been HK and aeterna noctis and those two feel much more similar to each other than celeste.

[Duckboycool]

I just want to mention if this is your first playthrough that what they described (called neutral jumps) isn't needed or even really beneficial for anywhere in the normal levels. Generally you'll want to hold grab as they said and climb up walls that way.
For jumping between two walls if you're out of stamina, you can also just hold away from the wall you're currently on after jumping, you don't have to hold neutral. I'm not sure what you mean about being stable on a wall, but if you're falling down it's probably because you're holding the opposite direction that you're moving.