The "rechargable" jump makes me want to suicide

[Lucathegreat]

I mean the one they teach you in level 8-part 2
The longjump works pretty much every time, too bad... it doesn't recharge. Or if it does, it's just for one jump, so if there are multiple platforms, it only works the first time. So I can't pass the falling ones a bit further, only the first jump recharges.

wtf were they thinking, these kind of wonky cheat-jumps should only be there for speedruns or crap like that, not mandatory to beat a level lmao

[raw maw]

if it doesn't recharge you're doing it too low.
if you don't get enough speed or length then you're jumping too high
it literally told you in the tutorial

The entirety oh chapter 8 are for the folks who already completed Celeste many times by now, and mastered everything.

[Lucathegreat]

I managed by luck to get a bit further (it's still a pixel-perfect height needed to pull it off), but so far the entirety of chapter 8 is just giving me cancer, I really hope the old lady dies with her bird at the end, won't accept any other outcome than this.

[raw maw]

ok troll

[Lucathegreat]

Originally posted by Delta:

ok troll

I prefer "normal player" that hates this kind of artificial difficulty with weird wonky jumps that only work when you do a pixel perfect Konami-code.

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by Lucathegreat:

I mean the one they teach you in level 8-part 2
The longjump works pretty much every time, too bad... it doesn't recharge. Or if it does, it's just for one jump, so if there are multiple platforms, it only works the first time. So I can't pass the falling ones a bit further, only the first jump recharges.

wtf were they thinking, these kind of wonky cheat-jumps should only be there for speedruns or crap like that, not mandatory to beat a level lmao

If it is the wavedash . . . I dont remember it being needed for chapter 8

Originally posted by Delta:

The entirety oh chapter 8 are for the folks who already completed Celeste many times by now, and mastered everything.

I did not complete Celeste multiple times and I returned to Celeste after some months not playing and I had not finished chapter 7 to that point, so I finished chapter 7, did chapter 8 in some 2 or 3 hours . . still I replayed the whole game once again looking for the hearts ... but now I am at 25% of chapter 9 and already 3h there (and countless deaths).

[EF_Neo1st]

Tbh, riding the parachutes up near the spikes is way much harder than wavedashing to me.
Too close to the spikes and I go under the parachute and dont grab it in time to go up.
Too far from the spikes and I go over the parachute and dont grab it.

That key at Farewell took me over 1h trying because of the triple parachute up (using it diagonally feels so easy, but up and close to spikes like that felt so hard, 1h of the 3h I spent that far on chapter 9 was on that room alone).

[Lucathegreat]

Originally posted by Delta:

Originally posted by Lucathegreat:

I prefer "normal player" that hates this kind of artificial difficulty with weird wonky jumps that only work when you do a pixel perfect Konami-code.

Z, down & right/left, X
4 buttons
It's as complicated as the ABBA code
You do what you've done trough-out the entire game. Jump & dash.

Also pixel perfect isn't right. It's as precise as a simple jump within the game, you need to be precise; but not stupidly precise.
The game literally had an ultra long tutorial for people just like you. Did you skip it or what?

Also never did you need to use the wavedash in Core. It was first directly introduced in Farewell, but has been there since launch. So that's factually wrong, mr. Troll man guy.


you are stupid and i am right. /j
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=purgzAlwefk

Reported :)
Anyway, since there's not a clear transition between level 8 and 9 (I'm playing it right now for the first time, no idea what was added later), I assumed it was still level 8. It is, in fact, 9. 8 was challenging but fair.

This doesn't change the ridiculous precision needed for it: you must not jump too high, nor too low, and while this may work for 1 or max 2 jumps, it only works whenever it wants to when there are 3+ (falling) platforms in a row where can't choose the height - you get only as high as the previous jump sent you, meaning the recharge won't trigger most of the times by the last platforms, even if you do the diagonal sequence right. It's not fun, it's just a chore, and there doesn't even seem to be an end to this, it just keeps going.

[Duckboycool]

I honestly have no idea what you mean by there being no clear transition between chapters 8 and 9. They're completely different chapters on the map and you need all the crystal hearts before you can normally get to the part of the level that requires wavedashes anyway.

In terms of the wavedash itself, it really isn't as precise as you seem to think. One thing you should make sure you're doing is delaying your jump if you're too low when you do the diagonal dash. This will mean you stay on the ground until you can get your dash back the same way as you would if you dashed from higher. If you delay for the right amount, anywhere from the maximum height of your jump to being on the ground will be able to get your dash back, so being too high or low won't be an issue.

[raw maw]

Originally posted by Lucathegreat:

Originally posted by Delta:

Z, down & right/left, X
4 buttons
It's as complicated as the ABBA code
You do what you've done trough-out the entire game. Jump & dash.

Also pixel perfect isn't right. It's as precise as a simple jump within the game, you need to be precise; but not stupidly precise.
The game literally had an ultra long tutorial for people just like you. Did you skip it or what?

Also never did you need to use the wavedash in Core. It was first directly introduced in Farewell, but has been there since launch. So that's factually wrong, mr. Troll man guy.


you are stupid and i am right. /j
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=purgzAlwefk

Reported :)
Anyway, since there's not a clear transition between level 8 and 9 (I'm playing it right now for the first time, no idea what was added later), I assumed it was still level 8. It is, in fact, 9. 8 was challenging but fair.

This doesn't change the ridiculous precision needed for it: you must not jump too high, nor too low, and while this may work for 1 or max 2 jumps, it only works whenever it wants to when there are 3+ (falling) platforms in a row where can't choose the height - you get only as high as the previous jump sent you, meaning the recharge won't trigger most of the times by the last platforms, even if you do the diagonal sequence right. It's not fun, it's just a chore, and there doesn't even seem to be an end to this, it just keeps going.

Great, reported for what? Informing you of your incorrectness? It's like you started drinking stupid juice from a river nearby. like wtf. Even for the kind of troll you are, this is stupidly... stupid. I mean, at least even a good troll has the ability to be funny or laughable.
You make me pity, it's sorrowing to see these scientific experimental escape test apes trying to blend in with society.

Besides I've literally been reported tens if not hundreds of times by fools alike you, in situations alike this. Yet peeking at my profile... it's cleaner than Mr. Clean himself!! Absurd!

Also of course there's no direct transition, it takes place ♥♥♥♥♥♥' years later, it's like complaining that some Saturday Mornin' cartoon's episode ain't connected to the previously aired one. Ridiculous!

Plus yes. You need to be exact & precise. It's like complaining to your local tech store that you have to press exactly the 'D' button on your keyboard for it to register as 'D'. You have to press the input to receive the input, duh. what kind of crack are you on? i'm jealous you get the ability to feel so silly

And what the ♥♥♥♥ are you talking about? If you're wavedashing multiple times in a row, the next wavedash goes automatically to the same exact height.
It should be an automatic finger movement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOyoVxs24e0


if you dislike precise platforming don't play difficult platformers. it's like you do '2 + 2' and end up with '17'. Go back to playing mobile games or smth if you can't handle gaming

[raw maw]

i haven't played this game in months! but the instant I decide to pick it up i complete the wavedash every single time

[Clantis]

you may not be jumping at the same time, the hight that you can do the dash isn't very lenient, however you can delay the jump if you dash too low (so much to where you dont even need to dash from the air, which is then called an extended hyper).

get a feel for how long it takes the dash to refill, then jump after that point no matter how high you jump from. if you have to do it off of a small platform, generally go at a medium-high hight and delay the jump by just slightly.

though if you do the dash as high as possible, you can still sometimes make it by doing the jump extremely early (if you're not jumping to a lower spot, buffer the jump aka press it slightly before you touch the ground and the game will time it to jump on the first frame for you.)

[EF_Neo1st]

If you are to play Celeste to the end, you are to abide to play by its requirements and the trial and error that is to perform the tricks required.

It is like the rope jump (in and out) and rope walk at Crash, it is lenient but not so lenient, but if you want that trophy you need to do it (but at Celeste to finish C9 you need to be good at it all)

[Jason]

1. you mean chapter 9
2. it is not wonky
3. the platforms are placed so that even if you spam out of panic it's in the right place to get a wavedash
4. "normal" players are usually people who can complete the game by the game rules
5. for "normal player" posers like you there exists assist mode
6. if you are going to complain that a game should be completable without assist mode cheats, maybe try getting more dedication and determination to finish it without cheats like the character you're playing in game

[Perseus]

You don't have to jump to wavedash (or at least do something very similar). If you do the same inputs (except the first jump) on the ground with the same timing between the dash and the second jump(which is now the first and only), it'll work too.

[Clantis]

Originally posted by perseus:

You don't have to jump to wavedash (or at least do something very similar). If you do the same inputs (except the first jump) on the ground with the same timing between the dash and the second jump(which is now the first and only), it'll work too.

^
thats called an extended hyper, but the safest way to get a recharged hyper jump is to do a wavedash that has a delayed jump, though many prefer to do extended hypers when available.