Ultimate General: Civil War

Ultimate General: Civil War

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DeyTac Mar 24, 2017 @ 9:10am
Easy Mode
Dear devs., i played UG-Gettysburg and now UGCW since is available. Tried many different playthroughs with different settings on both sides.
But also with new options without scaling this is never ever an easy mode.
1) enemys just have 2 or 3 star troops...and it looks like the AI is compensating the lost scaling with just bring up more smaller troops.
2) there are too many "cant win" battles (is it for the historical correctnes?) like GainsMill, Fredricksberg, ect. on union side for example. This is a problem because of the amazing lack of money u earn for a win or a draw..which lead to many problems like
..... i never was able to afford more than 2 corps with max. 5 div.,and 3rd corps with only 1 div. while the game is offering many battles with 3 or 4 diff. startpositions for ur 3rd and later on 4th corps
..... investing points in army-organisation are wasted points, because u never have enough money to buy more troops and equipment
...... a draw is absolutly unacceptable, because this means u havent enough money to stock up not only one corps completely. This is a big problem, because this, of course, mostly happens after the big and very bloody, costly battles, when u need it most. To gain victory at the hard battles like Fredricksberg u must push hard and accept very high losses (unavoidable at this map), but the money u get from the victory isnt compensating this nowhere near enough.
......lack of experienced troops, because u cant afford much veterans, while..see point 1
Beside the useless startboni for easy mode ,i cant see and feel any difference in AI aggression or tactics to normal mode. Scaling looks like the only difference, but as i mentioned in point 1, it fells like theres something wrong with the enemy amount of units then. These are things i await in hard mode, but this is no easy mode.

I also have noticed that there are still a lot of cool weapons in useless low numbers and never available to buy in the shop. Maybe a blackmarket for enemy weapons could solve this.
Artillery stock ups are much too expensive or bugged.
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CrashToDesktop Mar 24, 2017 @ 9:41am 
1. Not always.

2. I've won both on Hard, let alone Easy, having killed more of the enemy than I lost myself. Money is always a problem to get more of, but you get 25% more on Easy. :P

From what I can see, you're just not managing your losses in battles and managing your army well enough.
DeyTac Mar 24, 2017 @ 10:12am 
Originally posted by The Soldier:
1. Not always.

2. I've won both on Hard, let alone Easy, having killed more of the enemy than I lost myself. Money is always a problem to get more of, but you get 25% more on Easy. :P

From what I can see, you're just not managing your losses in battles and managing your army well enough.

Im not a noob and have lot of exp also in similar games. I think i understand the mechanics of army or battle management. sorry, its always strange when u have to say this about ur self, because it sounds selfish. Also there a not so much things in UGCW which are hard to learn. Its mostly simple in his battle mechanics, its ok for me, but its defenetly not a very complex system. Playing this game too long to oversee these basics ;-).

I also won these battles, but because of the lack of money and high losses its more efficient to draw these battles with lower losses of manpower and equipment, which u cant compensate with the win-reward. U can win every battle in this game, but it makes no sense when u have lots of pyrrhic wins.Its ok when u face a scenario which was historically a desaster for the playing army and draw is an option, but it doesnt match with the rewards u gain. I mean i was talking about easy mode not hard mode.
Cyborg Lincoln Mar 24, 2017 @ 10:32am 
Rework your tactics during battle. I'm playing through an easy CSA campaign
(no fixed scale) , I'm at Chickamauga and I have more money and troops than I know what to do with. I've won every battle, managed to do so without having a net loss in either cash or troops.

Investing your career points into politics, economy, medicine and training help a lot if you need to save troops and cash, just get your Recon and Army Org skills up to adequate levels, which you should be able to do after the first few grand battles and if you picked the right traits, and for the rest of the game just invest in those four skills.

Also read the guides, they have a lot of tips to help minimize losses in battle, which saves you cash and troops
DeyTac Mar 24, 2017 @ 10:56am 
Originally posted by Cyborg Lincoln:
Rework your tactics during battle. I'm playing through an easy CSA campaign
(no fixed scale) , I'm at Chickamauga and I have more money and troops than I know what to do with. I've won every battle, managed to do so without having a net loss in either cash or troops.

Investing your career points into politics, economy, medicine and training help a lot if you need to save troops and cash, just get your Recon and Army Org skills up to adequate levels, which you should be able to do after the first few grand battles and if you picked the right traits, and for the rest of the game just invest in those four skills.

Also read the guides, they have a lot of tips to help minimize losses in battle, which saves you cash and troops

Plz dont missunderstood but i think i have to say it clear: Im not an idoit. All things u sayed are true but self-evident basics. I read many guides and played this too long to be so stupid and didnt look for optimizing my tactics and how to invest the career points. I also won these battles, but sometimes decided to draw, because i cant compensate the losses with the win-reward. I also restart some battles to optimize and adapt my tactics and minimize my losses....of course. I win 95% of the battles with a killratio of 2 or 3, sometimes 4to1. and still have these money problems on easy mode. I never had these problem on normal mode.
CrashToDesktop Mar 24, 2017 @ 11:00am 
If you're not an idiot, and most of the people here are manaing perfectly fine, then something else is at fault. Probably still yourself, like I said in my first post.

Army Management.
Last edited by CrashToDesktop; Mar 24, 2017 @ 11:00am
DeyTac Mar 24, 2017 @ 11:19am 
Originally posted by The Soldier:
If you're not an idiot, and most of the people here are manaing perfectly fine, then something else is at fault. Probably still yourself, like I said in my first post.

Army Management.

Never had these problems before. also not at higher difficulties. I still wonder why this happend in easy mode. It doesnt feel like an easy mode. If i was able to finsih it many times, also on normal and hard (but just with union) without having these problem, how can u repeat your imposition? I just facing this money problems on easy since the last patch. maybe theres something wrong or bugged with the new options, thats what i wanna tell the devs. but u only come with arrogancy, so thx for u help and goodbye.
RobertELee Mar 24, 2017 @ 11:26am 
Easy mode in this game is not currently what u would expect easy to be.

Normally the easy settings on most games are there for the player to explore the game at their own pace without feeling overwhelmed. Unfortunately players jumping into this game for the first time are likely to turn away as there is currently no area of the game to explore their army comp/decisions. Personally I have to go through multiple campaigns just to understand all the different tactics and army comps available. I find myself, all too often, completely starting a campaign over because 1 of my army corps was just slightly too much Arty. and not enough Inf.

To be perfectly clear if easy boils down to building a preset army that was pre-calculated to have the best odds of winning, (e.g. you must have exactly 3 Inf. And 1 arty at bull-run for the rebs. If u decide to make anything ells you lose in the end game because u lost 200 more recruits than usual) then it’s probably best just to go back to total war. Its things like this like this I would expect out of legendary difficulty, not easy. Just make a difficulty that allows the player to explore the game their own way without having perfect tactics or build orders. I’m sure that a lot of people would like to see how an army corps make exclusively out of Arty. would fair at Getty’s burg alongside the rest of their army.

I know it isn’t very popular to say easy should be easier but having a difficulty that allows a jumping off point for new players is necessary to keep interest in this game.
CrashToDesktop Mar 24, 2017 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by Sexmachine:
Never had these problems before. also not at higher difficulties. I still wonder why this happend in easy mode. It doesnt feel like an easy mode. If i was able to finsih it many times, also on normal and hard (but just with union) without having these problem, how can u repeat your imposition? I just facing this money problems on easy since the last patch. maybe theres something wrong or bugged with the new options, thats what i wanna tell the devs. but u only come with arrogancy, so thx for u help and goodbye.
How the hell am I arrogant? I started a new game with the last patch, and I'm facing precisely no problems. If saying what I'm experiencing is arrogant, then you've got a very twisted view on life.
Last edited by CrashToDesktop; Mar 24, 2017 @ 11:30am
DeyTac Mar 24, 2017 @ 11:51am 
Originally posted by The Soldier:
Originally posted by Sexmachine:
Never had these problems before. also not at higher difficulties. I still wonder why this happend in easy mode. It doesnt feel like an easy mode. If i was able to finsih it many times, also on normal and hard (but just with union) without having these problem, how can u repeat your imposition? I just facing this money problems on easy since the last patch. maybe theres something wrong or bugged with the new options, thats what i wanna tell the devs. but u only come with arrogancy, so thx for u help and goodbye.
How the hell am I arrogant? I started a new game with the last patch, and I'm facing precisely no problems. If saying what I'm experiencing is arrogant, then you've got a very twisted view on life.
sorry wont be rude..but u sound a littlebit arrogant. anyway, surly im not the best CW player on earth but i never had these problems at any time. Its really strange after playing the campaign on hard, starting a new campaign on easy and its harder in some aspects then on hard mode. Maybe after several campaign restarts, after a new patch, im not so mindful and efficient overall at some battles.
Luunyrkki Mar 24, 2017 @ 1:17pm 
Current game is designed to be a minmax grindfest. Well, not designed as much as screwed up to be one. There's a large divide in this forum whether it should be that way or not; this is why some people tell you you don't know how to play. Lack of patches hopefully means that there's a major redisgn in the works.
IrateQuaker Mar 24, 2017 @ 2:31pm 
SexMachine, take the lack of tactics comments with a grain of salt. It is the default comeback for players that think it's okay to blame a report on the player rather than take a hard look at the game itself. Something the Developers have asked us to do.

Many people have noticed the problems with running low on money and even equipment, the only suggestion being that as you learn the proper exploits things will go easier, but that doesn't work for a first time player which we are supposed to be mindful of in our repeated tests. Soldier is one of those players that will argue with you without any need to see your point of view, just ignore him and realize that there are many of us that have seen the same thing you reported here and have reported it in other posts as well. Hopefully it is seen by the Devs.
DeyTac Mar 24, 2017 @ 3:21pm 
Originally posted by IrateQuaker:
SexMachine, take the lack of tactics comments with a grain of salt. It is the default comeback for players that think it's okay to blame a report on the player rather than take a hard look at the game itself. Something the Developers have asked us to do.

Many people have noticed the problems with running low on money and even equipment, the only suggestion being that as you learn the proper exploits things will go easier, but that doesn't work for a first time player which we are supposed to be mindful of in our repeated tests. Soldier is one of those players that will argue with you without any need to see your point of view, just ignore him and realize that there are many of us that have seen the same thing you reported here and have reported it in other posts as well. Hopefully it is seen by the Devs.
thank u iratequaker, its totaly crazy. i just want to say that easy mode isnt easy and no need to teach me like this. like u i wanna make this game better and when i think something isnt balanced, i will tell this the devs. thats what a alpha version is supposed to be, right?
IrateQuaker Mar 24, 2017 @ 3:39pm 
Very correct.
Wright29 Mar 24, 2017 @ 11:33pm 
While you are right that Easy mode is quite a challenge for a first-time player, I have to agree with The Solider. Don't want to be mean, but this game is very much winnable if you have some patience and are willing to try different things to overcome obstacles. There are plenty of Youtubers who haven't had much trouble winning every mission on Easy level if you need proof of the possibility.

If your input is that they need to make a level beyond easy for people completely new to the genre, then that is good feedback. But you sound like a person that has played some strategy games before and I respectfuly disagree with your motion that Easy mode/ the economic structure of the game is unbalanced and needs to go back to formula.
Koro Mar 25, 2017 @ 12:26am 
Originally posted by Sexmachine:
Originally posted by The Soldier:
If you're not an idiot, and most of the people here are manaing perfectly fine, then something else is at fault. Probably still yourself, like I said in my first post.

Army Management.

Never had these problems before. also not at higher difficulties. I still wonder why this happend in easy mode. It doesnt feel like an easy mode. If i was able to finsih it many times, also on normal and hard (but just with union) without having these problem, how can u repeat your imposition? I just facing this money problems on easy since the last patch. maybe theres something wrong or bugged with the new options, thats what i wanna tell the devs. but u only come with arrogancy, so thx for u help and goodbye.
So to sum up, because your post isn't very clear, you can play normal and hard just fine but not easy?
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Date Posted: Mar 24, 2017 @ 9:10am
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