Skirmishers

[ceutermark]

I now understand how powerful skirmishers in the right situation just did the battle of cross keys and my units racked up 1700 kills for only three deaths a K/D ratio of 580 to 1

[[TFM]bobcat]

Indeed

[ceutermark]

I armed them with the scoped version of the whitworth though i don't think i started to buy them early enough i got the shipment from the goverment and bought some but my unit is getting smaller from the few losses it has had.

[[TFM]bobcat]

Yeah scoped whitworths are worth their weight in gold so get them wherever you can. Also dont arm your men with skrim weapons lower than the non-scope whitworth and the Union will have skirms equiped with J.F. Browns which are even better than the Whitworth. You can capture them after the battle and equip your own units with them if you make sure to wipe the skirms out in battle. Its a cheap and easy way to save on good sniper weapons

[ceutermark]

At what point in the rebel campign are you able to start buying the scoped whitworths

[uhamster9]

Originally posted by ceutermark:

At what point in the rebel campign are you able to start buying the scoped whitworths

Weapon stocks refresh after every grand battle, so ideally you should be saving them from the start of a campaign.

[ceutermark]

Originally posted by uhamster9:

Originally posted by ceutermark:

At what point in the rebel campign are you able to start buying the scoped whitworths

Weapon stocks refresh after every grand battle, so ideally you should be saving them from the start of a campaign.

So basically after the first mission start buying the scoped whitworths.

[uhamster9]

If you have spare money, why not? Same goes for Fayettevilles, buy up whenever they're in stock.

Before 0.75 I also liked to buy up all Palmettos+sabres, but after the shock cav nerf it isn't really worth it anymore.

[[TFM]bobcat]

Originally posted by uhamster9:

If you have spare money, why not? Same goes for Fayettevilles, buy up whenever they're in stock.

Before 0.75 I also liked to buy up all Palmettos+sabres, but after the shock cav nerf it isn't really worth it anymore.

Shock cav is still very effective

Lematts are also really good if you can spare for it. Despite the fact that the Union had better access to weapons during the war, the South has a suprisingly varied access to very high end weapons that the Union does not

[ceutermark]

Originally posted by TFMbobcat:

Originally posted by uhamster9:

If you have spare money, why not? Same goes for Fayettevilles, buy up whenever they're in stock.

Before 0.75 I also liked to buy up all Palmettos+sabres, but after the shock cav nerf it isn't really worth it anymore.

Shock cav is still very effective

Yea i used some of it at 1st winchester and it did ok

[Down with Orrix]

Shock cav never score absurd K/D but help you win battles in a more subtle way, which is simply removing part of the enemy force from an isolated location or overunning an under defended position. mine usually take 300~ losses and 1k kills. 2 infantry brigades + a cannon or something come to fight in a relatively isolated flank of a large battle and i will draw their attention with infantry and crash cavalry into them. the cav then chases them down forever/runs out of stamina, but my infantry is freed up to go do things elsewhere

Sharpshooters are the real killers. i havent ever gotten skirm cav, shock cav, or repeater skirms to do the ungodly work that sharpshooters do on a regular basis. heres my 3 star skirm unit's history

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/80340956995524614/CF5B225001BCD1938CAC30E9019212F563BF1FD3/

they had Hunter rifles up until Port Republic which is when they got the proper scoped whitworths. the reason it took so long is i operate them in large groups of 400-500 so it takes time to gather that many rifles.

of particular note is Antietam, their finest hour

[Suleo]

1. Get all whitworths & scoped whitworths before 1st bull run.
2. Do the same right after 1st bull run. You now have enough whitworths (not scoped) for a 100-man skirmisher unit.
3. Equip 100-man skirmisher unit with whitworths (you don't have to use it in battle, just keep it equipped & at home). The enemy skirms will now have spencers.
4. Loot spencers & keep them, they are great for mounted skirmisher.
5. After Shiloh, buy all scoped whitworths. You now should have > 100 and can equip your skirmisher unit with scoped whitworths.
6. The enemy skirms will now all have JF browns, right after shiloh. Enjoy your scoped loot.

Alternatively, if you hate enemy skirms having JF browns, you need to keep your own skirmisher force equipped with scoped whitworths at 90% or less. E.g. if you have 500 skirmishers with scoped whitworths, create another 100-man skirmisher unit, give them hunters & keep them at home. The enemy skirms will now have spencers.

[[TFM]bobcat]

Originally posted by Rin best girl:

Shock cav never score absurd K/D but help you win battles in a more subtle way, which is simply removing part of the enemy force from an isolated location or overunning an under defended position. mine usually take 300~ losses and 1k kills. 2 infantry brigades + a cannon or something come to fight in a relatively isolated flank of a large battle and i will draw their attention with infantry and crash cavalry into them. the cav then chases them down forever/runs out of stamina, but my infantry is freed up to go do things elsewhere

Sharpshooters are the real killers. i havent ever gotten skirm cav, shock cav, or repeater skirms to do the ungodly work that sharpshooters do on a regular basis. heres my 3 star skirm unit's history

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/80340956995524614/CF5B225001BCD1938CAC30E9019212F563BF1FD3/

they had Hunter rifles up until Port Republic which is when they got the proper scoped whitworths. the reason it took so long is i operate them in large groups of 400-500 so it takes time to gather that many rifles.

of particular note is Antietam, their finest hour

IDK how you use your cav, but mine can easily get up to 2k a piece for 2-300 casualties. Skrims are also very deadly, wont argue there, but cav can be as well if used properly and, moreover, dont require ammunition

[Archeon]

Skimishers are very effective. Although I personally think the morale damage they cause is a little bit too high. I think its appropriate for flank and rear but not frontal.

[Down with Orrix]

Originally posted by TFMbobcat:

Originally posted by Rin best girl:

Shock cav never score absurd K/D but help you win battles in a more subtle way, which is simply removing part of the enemy force from an isolated location or overunning an under defended position. mine usually take 300~ losses and 1k kills. 2 infantry brigades + a cannon or something come to fight in a relatively isolated flank of a large battle and i will draw their attention with infantry and crash cavalry into them. the cav then chases them down forever/runs out of stamina, but my infantry is freed up to go do things elsewhere

Sharpshooters are the real killers. i havent ever gotten skirm cav, shock cav, or repeater skirms to do the ungodly work that sharpshooters do on a regular basis. heres my 3 star skirm unit's history

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/80340956995524614/CF5B225001BCD1938CAC30E9019212F563BF1FD3/

they had Hunter rifles up until Port Republic which is when they got the proper scoped whitworths. the reason it took so long is i operate them in large groups of 400-500 so it takes time to gather that many rifles.

of particular note is Antietam, their finest hour

IDK how you use your cav, but mine can easily get up to 2k a piece for 2-300 casualties. Skrims are also very deadly, wont argue there, but cav can be as well if used properly and, moreover, dont require ammunition

it might be an issue of veterency, equipment, and practice and expertise in using them. i only started using shock cav fairly recently, and i am also not as familiar with the battles. So i can get blindsided by an infantry brigade volley firing my cav and cause unnecesary losses. on the big battles i sometimes lose cav units too, so beyond 2 stars cav never happens.

i haven't ever equipped a unit with lemats either, i only started using cav mid campaign and its been a bit too late to get my hand on any decent amount of lemats

[Suleo]

There are 500 Lemats available as a requisition purchase, after Malven Hill, as CSA.