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Leafbough

Feb 10, 2017 @ 3:40am

The Wilderness & Spotsylvania

This has probably been asked already, and if so I apologise.
Are there any plans to add the battles at the Wilderness and Spotsylvania in 1864? As far as I can tell the only battle to be added from Grant's Overland campaign is the battle of Cold Harbor.

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Appius_C

Feb 10, 2017 @ 3:47am

Been speculating with some others about that some time ago. Maybe they will work in some minor Battles from the Overland Campaign, but it seems like Wilderness won't be added, at least it doesn't appear on the List for the big Battles.
We'll just have to wait and see, or wait for a comment from the Beta People or the Devs.

Sagit84

Feb 10, 2017 @ 4:33am

It seems almost impossible for Wilderness battle not making appearance in the game. It was major battle of ACW so I'm pretty sure it will be added. There is going to be a siege of Vicksburg which was... well a siege. Wilderness and Spotsylvania were "regular" battles so...yeah.

chsalpha

Feb 10, 2017 @ 6:54am

Yeah I asked the same in another topic. It feels weird not to have Wilderness available as a big and historical battle in the game. IMO would be too important battle to have it just as a "side battle". If there are some issues with including the battle properly, the devs could still adjust the battle a bit IMO, so it works well with the gamplay of UGCW.

GeneralPITA has Ultimate General: Civil War

Feb 10, 2017 @ 7:03am

v0.68 Early Release had Battle of Wilderness listed, but was removed from the announcement in the v0.74 update.

Everettsville was a slog. Too many trees. I wouldn't want to fight a grand battle in 90% forest.

Chancellorsville is essentially the same battlefield you know.

Reanimated Crow has Ultimate General: Civil War

Feb 10, 2017 @ 7:21am

I would like to see those added in as well but I could understand any apprehension on the game developers side as the wilderness was more of a just a line em up and knock em down kind of fight without a whole lot of flanking or nuance to the battle. However that being said, those problems could offer a ton of potential as there wouldn't be as much of a need for scripting as there was for chancerllorsville . Maybe make the wilderness tavern a confederate objective and widow tapp a Union one, basically a position that would force either army to withdraw.

For Spotsylvania Courthouse I figured that would make more sense as the main battle compared to Cold Harbor as Cold Harbor has a little bit too much of a Fredericksburg about it.

But the big battle for me would have been at the North Anna even though it was fairly inconsequential in the actual campaign, North Anna had the most potential for a decisive battle for the overland campaign especially for the confederates. If they're gonna do a battle for DC and one for Richmond this is one I would also like to see implemented. The only reason North Anna isn't really held in the same regard as the other battles is because Lee comes down with some pretty bad diarrhea at the critical point. However you could imagine this would have been a pretty signifcant battle if Lee was able to launch an attack on either flank of the union army. Its hard to imagine the Union army being in good shape if one corp was completely crushed and lee was able to cross the north anna and cut off the line of supply, but thats getting a little too what iffy.

Sagit84

Feb 10, 2017 @ 3:15pm

Originally posted by GeneralPITA:
v0.68 Early Release had Battle of Wilderness listed, but was removed from the announcement in the v0.74 update.

Everettsville was a slog. Too many trees. I wouldn't want to fight a grand battle in 90% forest.

Chancellorsville is essentially the same battlefield you know.

You wouldn't like to fight this battle? Neither did the commanders in real life. That's why it should be included.

The Great Enemy has Ultimate General: Civil War

Feb 11, 2017 @ 7:24pm

Originally posted by Sagit84:
It seems almost impossible for Wilderness battle not making appearance in the game. It was major battle of ACW so I'm pretty sure it will be added. There is going to be a siege of Vicksburg which was... well a siege. Wilderness and Spotsylvania were "regular" battles so...yeah.

There were at least 2 direct assaults at the city of Vicksburg, then the siege, then the Logan's approach assault which was a pretty brutal 26 hour fight. Look up Logans approach or 3rd Louisiana redan.

Nox

Feb 11, 2017 @ 7:46pm

Originally posted by GeneralPITA:
v0.68 Early Release had Battle of Wilderness listed, but was removed from the announcement in the v0.74 update.

Everettsville was a slog. Too many trees. I wouldn't want to fight a grand battle in 90% forest.

Chancellorsville is essentially the same battlefield you know.

Not going to lie that makes me want to play it even more, 90% forest sounds like a fun challege.