im not too sure why people like berserk movies

[AlienWarfighter]

i just got done watching the part 1 movie of berserk and im not getting into this thing, at first people told me its full of monsters and stuff kinda like dark souls but it wasnt really that much like it

i dislike the chractors and the animation, the 3d anime just looks awful and i did sort of liked the show till i saw that flamboyant white haired asian guy giving his terrible gay speachs. im not so sure why its conidered one of the best anime, im not a anime fan but i did like attack of the titan, truth be told thats the only anime i watch tbh

[Dirk]

iemander eredeti hozzászólása:

There're available on crunchyroll:
http://www.crunchyroll.com/berserk

Some people dislike it, but I say just ignore them the new series is excellent. It's much closer to the manga than the original anime series in tone. But it lacks somewhat in terms of story. The animation is hit and miss, some scenes look odd, but others are absolutely fantastic.

Ignoring valid comments is idiotic.

Berserk doesn't translate well into 3D. BAD 3D at that. Not to mention the absolutely terrible cinematrography in play for the entire series that does the 90s, golden age movies AND the manga terrible justice. Just because it's Berserk doesn't mean it's good and the new series is far from good.

Also being closer to the source Material also doesn't mean it's good either, a lot of things in the manga could easily be cut out and nobody would bat an eyelid.

[adrianj30]

I watched the anime 97 version, the movies and then the manga for me the Manga is by far the best and I believe you should've watched the 1997 anime version which to me I prefer personally to the movies.

[iemander]

Dirk eredeti hozzászólása:

iemander eredeti hozzászólása:

There're available on crunchyroll:
http://www.crunchyroll.com/berserk

Some people dislike it, but I say just ignore them the new series is excellent. It's much closer to the manga than the original anime series in tone. But it lacks somewhat in terms of story. The animation is hit and miss, some scenes look odd, but others are absolutely fantastic.

Ignoring valid comments is idiotic.

Berserk doesn't translate well into 3D. BAD 3D at that. Not to mention the absolutely terrible cinematrography in play for the entire series that does the 90s, golden age movies AND the manga terrible justice. Just because it's Berserk doesn't mean it's good and the new series is far from good.

Also being closer to the source Material also doesn't mean it's good either, a lot of things in the manga could easily be cut out and nobody would bat an eyelid.

Ignoring elitist behavior that cannot accept anything that doesn't fit their perfect world is perfectly fine.

The new series is absolutely awesome, the action scenes beat the ♥♥♥♥ out of the original anime and they've put special attention on some iconic manga scenes in a way the previous anime was never capable in doing. Sure the 3D approach is not perfect, but it's a lot of fun regardless. I doubt the series would ever be able to do what it does so well if it were 2D instead of 3D.

[Skram]

He likes AoT, obvious troll

[Panda-Bishop]

Dirk eredeti hozzászólása:

Ignoring valid comments is idiotic.

Berserk doesn't translate well into 3D. BAD 3D at that. Not to mention the absolutely terrible cinematrography in play for the entire series that does the 90s, golden age movies AND the manga terrible justice. Just because it's Berserk doesn't mean it's good and the new series is far from good.

Also being closer to the source Material also doesn't mean it's good either, a lot of things in the manga could easily be cut out and nobody would bat an eyelid.

I was a fan of the movies, the 3D wasn't that bad in the first movie, but I agree about the 2016 series. Wonky camera work with the constant angle changes, panning, and closeups, all reduce the number of animated frames. Didn't help the director's experience is almost purely in slapstick comedy.

[Dirk]

iemander eredeti hozzászólása:

Dirk eredeti hozzászólása:

Ignoring valid comments is idiotic.

Berserk doesn't translate well into 3D. BAD 3D at that. Not to mention the absolutely terrible cinematrography in play for the entire series that does the 90s, golden age movies AND the manga terrible justice. Just because it's Berserk doesn't mean it's good and the new series is far from good.

Also being closer to the source Material also doesn't mean it's good either, a lot of things in the manga could easily be cut out and nobody would bat an eyelid.

Ignoring elitist behavior that cannot accept anything that doesn't fit their perfect world is perfectly fine.

The new series is absolutely awesome, the action scenes beat the ♥♥♥♥ out of the original anime and they've put special attention on some iconic manga scenes in a way the previous anime was never capable in doing. Sure the 3D approach is not perfect, but it's a lot of fun regardless. I doubt the series would ever be able to do what it does so well if it were 2D instead of 3D.

Sorry but i disagree. There are literally no boundaries when it comes to 2D, none at all. You can portray so much more emotion and subtle details. Where as 3D you're restricted to how costly it can be, the polygon count of the model and the restrictions of the movement, rendering, lighting, having to animation specifically for certain camera angles etc. etc.

2D has more freedom and you'll find that in the move versions with the terrific 2D animation, the animation quality totally outshines the ♥♥♥♥♥ basic 3D that provides nothing to the overall theme.

It's nothing to do with Elitism, i wouldn't consider myself anywhere near a hardcore berserk fan, but i'm educated enough to know what works and what doesn't. I'm not saying my opinion is the absolute law and you should listen to me, i'm just saying that not everything translates well into different mediums.

[iemander]

Actually, there are a number of advantages to 3D that can't be emulated by 2D.

For starters, frame animation can be calculated, meaning it is farther easier to create smooth animations. One of the big problems of japanese anime in general is the lack of animation or smoothness in animation.

Second, lighting can be done far more realistically and dynamically without additional effort and costs. Many scenes in the new Berserk series take advantage of this.

There's also far more flexibility in camera work.

There are some scenes in the new Berserk that take advantage of the above.

Both the above are what the original Berserk animation were particularly bad at. That anime was awesome in the story sense and how the characters were portayed, I even prefer it over the manga in this sense. But it's animations and complete lack of detail really held it back. Especially considering that Berserk the manga is known for detail in it's drawings, especially in the later chapters.

I'm not saying the new series does not have it's problems. It's obvious there were some budget cuts in terms of animation quality of some of the talking sections (not smoothness!!!!). But even so, it far outstrips the 2D original animation and made some incredible set pieces that are burned into my eyes by how beautiful they were done. The scene with Guts saving Caska was amazing, reflecting the same image in the manga.

You could see they focused on a number of key scene that had a big importance. I don't like the typical talking heads anime a lot. I want some action, real action. And by focusing less on the talking heads sections and more on the action set pieces was a very good decision.

[Panda-Bishop]

iemander eredeti hozzászólása:

You could see they focused on a number of key scene that had a big importance. I don't like the typical talking heads anime a lot. I want some action, real action. And by focusing less on the talking heads sections and more on the action set pieces was a very good decision.

What action though?

I could only watch up to about episode 7, so I don't know if it improved after that point, but all of the "combat" up to that point was basically Guts grunting/yelling, the camera zooming in on the dragonslayer or his flowing cape, and that weird pan sound effect to imply something's been hit; there were too many camera cuts, random change in focus (how many times and different angles do we have to see Puck's naked ass surprised expression in one scene?), and/or other things blocking the view of the action (like in episode 2, Guts vs. the Knights of the Chain, part of the fight was blocked by Serpico's talking head).

I like 3D animation when it's used properly, but Shin Itagaki had zero experience with 3D and close to zero experience with the dark fantasy genre (over a decade of experience with brightly colored comedies like Tekyuu), and it really showed in Berserk 2016. The problems with this anime had less to do with the CG and more to do with the choice of director.

[Keytee Tamira]

KhamiriZ eredeti hozzászólása:

i just got done watching the part 1 movie of berserk and im not getting into this thing, at first people told me its full of monsters and stuff kinda like dark souls but it wasnt really that much like it

i dislike the chractors and the animation, the 3d anime just looks awful and i did sort of liked the show till i saw that flamboyant white haired asian guy giving his terrible gay speachs. im not so sure why its conidered one of the best anime, im not a anime fan but i did like attack of the titan, truth be told thats the only anime i watch tbh

Dude.
1) Dark Souls was INSPIRED BY BERSERK.
2) Dark Souls CREATOR is a FAN OF BERSERK
3) You watched only the first movie. It gets really dark at the end of second movie... and then everything goes batsheet in the 3rd movie, being dark, gorey... and raapey.

[IMSWAGALICIOUS]

dude you have to either: watch all of the movies, watch the 97 anime or read the manga. If you watch all the movies (they get way better as they continue, with 3 being very good) you get the whole arc but still with a lot of stuff cut out. The anime has some pretty good animation sometimes and the OST is phenomenal, also it doesn't cut as much stuff so its more in depth but the ending is kinda rushed whereas in the movies its much more natural. The anime is more of a time commitment and the movies are filled with crappy CGI but honestly I'd say watch the anime then READ THE MANGA. All of it. When people talk about Berserk, they're talking about the manga/97 anime. GIve it a shot man, if you liked AoT you're gonna LOVE berserk trust me. Phenomenal writing and characters, its all so intertwined and intricate, beautifully made with some of the best art in manga out there. Actual masterpiece, but whichever way u wanna start it you have to finish it, so if its anime, watch all eps then manga from or watch all movies then manga from the top. Have fun dude.

[JohnTravoltage]

I think the manga is easily the best if you have time for it. I find its even easier than dealing with watching the anime for free (usually having to deal with tons of ads etc.) especially since theres a website which just has the entirety of the english translated berserk manga available. Just google read berserk.

[Keytee Tamira]

andymoshi eredeti hozzászólása:

The movies are amazing Sir, and the animation is flawless, a spectacular amalgamation of 3D and 2D!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEW8c5MQ7io

Flawless with the exception that style somethimes is too different from original manga.

Like, Smiling Griffith with Behelit looked better in Manga, as well as some funny facial expressions.

[I AM BAYTOR]

Power through them. My friends thought the same til we hit the third movie. Then they became Berserk believers.

[sugar water]

as other people have said, the hype doesnt have to do with the anime and the movies, but rather the original MANGA, and as someone else specifically said, souls games are heavily inspired by berserk, especially elden ring which really just feels like playing a berserk game