This should have been free to owners of the original

[Fdruid]

This version is replacing the original one in the store.

New players will pay for this version when getting into the game. Does it make sense to charge existing players for this facelift instead of aiming for new players? Sounds like a Sony move to me.
Personally I bought it to support this game and developer, which deserve more recognition.

But honestly there was no need to make it a different Steam entry and killing the origina one, the game could have simply been patched into the new version and that would leave newcomers with the modern version and existing players happy with the new layer of sheen, as a thank you for having been the ones who made this game a success.
Dunno, I understand this happening but it doesn't feel good.

[pelly]

Most people who bought the original probably did over 10 years ago, it's really not that much.

[PKPenguin]

I think for what was added it was absolutely fair to charge people who owned the game previously (this includes myself). The old version of the game should probably come bundled though, if only for preservation.

[Fdruid]

Originally posted by PKPenguin:

I think for what was added it was absolutely fair to charge people who owned the game previously (this includes myself). The old version of the game should probably come bundled though, if only for preservation.

That too, I agree.
In any case I thought it was unusual, but it's fine.

[Dunther]

Originally posted by PKPenguin:

I think for what was added it was absolutely fair to charge people who owned the game previously (this includes myself). The old version of the game should probably come bundled though, if only for preservation.

Yeah I guess it should, the old italian translation was better, preserving it would be for the best

[ModernSamurai]

I hear some new puzzles are added. So maybe like 70% off and not completely free, if I want to be fair. Another option would be a DLC, but it's 15 years old, so it would be very weird.

[Fdruid]

Originally posted by ModernSamurai:

I hear some new puzzles are added. So maybe like 70% off and not completely free, if I want to be fair. Another option would be a DLC, but it's 15 years old, so it would be very weird.

Well, it can happen. Look at Dungeon Defenders.

[timothymark 451]

There's enough new content and clearly a lot of work to completely rerecord the music, write new music, repaint the art, design new dlc levels and record the commentary that it would be pretty stupid from a business perspective to just hand out the game for free, and there's so much work put in that it's certainly not just a remaster, so I disagree and happily pay money for it.

[Dunther]

Originally posted by ModernSamurai:

I hear some new puzzles are added. So maybe like 70% off and not completely free, if I want to be fair. Another option would be a DLC, but it's 15 years old, so it would be very weird.

yeah there's like a new world, I didn't see much of it yet but it doesn't seem anything special since it's unrelated to the story.
For me the main attraction is the developer commentary, I love this game and hear more from who developed it is a bless to me

[Fdruid]

Originally posted by Dunther:

Originally posted by ModernSamurai:

I hear some new puzzles are added. So maybe like 70% off and not completely free, if I want to be fair. Another option would be a DLC, but it's 15 years old, so it would be very weird.

yeah there's like a new world, I didn't see much of it yet but it doesn't seem anything special since it's unrelated to the story.
For me the main attraction is the developer commentary, I love this game and hear more from who developed it is a bless to me

Yeah, that's a really good addition, honestly. More games should do it.

[Dunther]

Originally posted by Fdruid:

Originally posted by Dunther:

yeah there's like a new world, I didn't see much of it yet but it doesn't seem anything special since it's unrelated to the story.
For me the main attraction is the developer commentary, I love this game and hear more from who developed it is a bless to me

Yeah, that's a really good addition, honestly. More games should do it.

Well that's the point of these "special" editions, I understand if it's not in every base game since there's so much developer commentary here.
Monkey Island Special Editions had something similiar in-game, Mark of the Ninja had it in its Special Edition and so on.

[ChubbiChibbai]

Why?
Why do people always assume that a remaster should be free.

Do you expect to get updated hardware for free each time Apple launches a revision.

When movies get remastered on a new format do you think you are entitled to that for free because you bought the VHS back in the day.

....'oh but its not the same' i hear you say.

It is. These things cost money.
It's a product and the publisher / developer is entitled to do what they want with both the original and any updated versions. You still own the original you paid for. That isn't changing.

The remaster took time and cost money. You don't have to buy it.
While the original gets delisted (to help push sales towards the new version and to ensure new customers pick up the best version) if you own the orignal you still own it and can still play it.

If you don't like the price then you can play the original.
If you want to get the updated features then you can buy the new one.

I don't see what the issue is and i don't see why gamers constantly feel so entitled to stuff for free. It's really pathetic and embarrassing to see.

[Captain Flappy]

Originally posted by ChubbiChibbai:

Why?
Why do people always assume that a remaster should be free.

Do you expect to get updated hardware for free each time Apple launches a revision.

When movies get remastered on a new format do you think you are entitled to that for free because you bought the VHS back in the day.

....'oh but its not the same' i hear you say.

It is. These things cost money.
It's a product and the publisher / developer is entitled to do what they want with both the original and any updated versions. You still own the original you paid for. That isn't changing.

The remaster took time and cost money. You don't have to buy it.
While the original gets delisted (to help push sales towards the new version and to ensure new customers pick up the best version) if you own the orignal you still own it and can still play it.

If you don't like the price then you can play the original.
If you want to get the updated features then you can buy the new one.

I don't see what the issue is and i don't see why gamers constantly feel so entitled to stuff for free. It's really pathetic and embarrassing to see.

Apple software updates ARE free each time and come with countless new features for every customer... that's a better analogy than hardware.

[kukukachu]

Originally posted by Fdruid:

I definitely don't think the new version should be free, but I do believe that the older version should be bundled with the new version.

[Ofca]

Originally posted by kukukachu:

Originally posted by Fdruid:

I definitely don't think the new version should be free, but I do believe that the older version should be bundled with the new version.

it pretty much is; you can switch to old graphics, and new version is pretty much the same. Your request can be pretty much summed up to "windows xp should be bundled with windows 7" - what's the point?

On another note, saying this should be free is same as saying windows 10 should be free for windows 95 owners. What would you get "for free" if Braid: Anniversary Edition would not get released? What else should be free? You bought a '2009 car, so you should get one for free every 15 years until when?

[kukukachu]

Originally posted by Ofca:

Originally posted by kukukachu:

I definitely don't think the new version should be free, but I do believe that the older version should be bundled with the new version.

it pretty much is; you can switch to old graphics, and new version is pretty much the same. Your request can be pretty much summed up to "windows xp should be bundled with windows 7" - what's the point?

On another note, saying this should be free is same as saying windows 10 should be free for windows 95 owners. What would you get "for free" if Braid: Anniversary Edition would not get released? What else should be free? You bought a '2009 car, so you should get one for free every 15 years until when?

look man, I look at what Ori and the Blind forest did, and I think that's the appropriate thing to do. I also remember getting Bioshock remaster for free. I didn't have to buy Bioshock remaster again. Its about respect. Companies used to know how to respect customers....Now new Braid is 50% off for around a whole month for those that own the orignal, that's good., however, I still believe that if you have two versions and one is "outdated", you should still offer that outdated version for the people that wish to play it. A game is not the same as an OS, so that's a terrible analogy...I still appreciate the effort though.