They still haven't locked the post, lol

Publicado originalmente por mrorange:

Congrats. Will you still support Steam VR, Index, Vive etc? No word on this in the news.

What? That's not how this works. Everyone in the industry has to use OpenVR/OpenXR, it doesn't matter what VR system you use. All VR systems are compatible with steamvr, now and forever.

Publicado originalmente por Syndrome Of A Down:

i hope soon there will be a character model like boneworks, it would be really awesome!

No, it wouldn't. Pointless physics interactions will hurt your latency and cause far too many problems.

Publicado originalmente por pLayC:

Publicado originalmente por Syndrome Of A Down:

i hope soon there will be a character model like boneworks, it would be really awesome!

they cant even get walking / running anamations right in 2 years lol how so how do you think there going to pull boneworks character physics

Downpour is literally the first to have done artificial locomotion right, 5 YEARS AGO. smh, you have no clue what you are talking about.

Publicado originalmente por Driverofcar:

Publicado originalmente por mrorange:

Congrats. Will you still support Steam VR, Index, Vive etc? No word on this in the news.

What? That's not how this works. Everyone in the industry has to use OpenVR/OpenXR, it doesn't matter what VR system you use. All VR systems are compatible with steamvr, now and forever.

His question was valid, it is how it works.

Supporting OpenXR != supporting all platforms. OpenXR is just a framework to help aid VR development and device support but it still requires a lot of work and per-platform knowledge. You don't have to use OpenXR and OpenXR != OpenVR.
SteamVR (Which uses Valve's OpenVR) didn't have full support for OpenXR content till February of this year. And OpenXR support isn't even complete yet in engines like Unity.

Your statement about (almost**) all systems being supported is correct, however saying all the devices will be supported now and forever? You don't know that, you cant see into the future. And that SteamVR supports a lot of devices doesn't mean that Quest games run on PC though, and its not a guarantee that they'll keep building for PC.
Even if they keep putting out a build for Quest and PC, they are still majorly different. Its great that Unity handles a lot of the work but because the Quest x platform uses Android (custom version), there's still a load of work.
Saying SteamVR supports all devices doesn't mean that every game will work on all devices. There are a load of games on Steam itself that won't work with Index or other controllers. So even on Steam itself, having a SteamVR compatible device doesn't mean you can play all VR games available on Steam.

Added to that, there are major differences between the platforms like the rendering API, rendering power and methods and platform specific bugs. That's why they always ask us platform and device info when reporting bugs.

It would make sense for Downpour to stop supporting a smaller platform to simplify their work and bring down development costs, which shouldn't be an issue if Facebook is pumping it. But also, Facebook is pumping it. (With smaller I'm referring to platform earnings)

He asked a valid question.
A: I doubt they'll ever stop supporting PCVR for this game, especially since a few of the devs use PCVR devices. I do wonder how things are going to unfold with games in the future though.

used to play this a lot when i regularly played vr, unfortunately this poor choice will make me no longer play, support or recommend this game. I can not in good conscious recommend people a game/product that is owned/connected directly or otherwise to a company as shady, immoral, and untrustworthy as facebook. i would much rather have seen this amazing game quietly disappear from existence or flat out shut down than see it sold out to facebook.

Publicado originalmente por mrorange:

Please add this FAQ also here... for everyone else:

" Will you continue to develop features specifically for PCVR / SteamVR?

Yes, Onward has roots in the PC community and we remain committed to developing for PCVR / SteamVR. That includes previously discussed features such as improved lighting and graphics, new game modes and many other features we aren't quite ready to reveal yet. The PCVR / SteamVR version of Onward will always be in line with all other platforms while we work to fully leverage the raw compute power that PCVR / SteamVR offers."

its funny cause they downgraded the graphics and they say their gonna improve them i think not.

Well, I was about to move from Pavlov to Onward for a more slow, realistic and tactical shooter experience. I've heard the game has been downgraded now and it's a meme?. Why did this occur?.

Eh... It's actually not that bad. It runs well and looks terrific on the Vive Pro 2 here.

Onward has achieved meme status - don't waste your time playing it, correct :)

Gameplay is still fine and quest kids are easier to kill

And the cowards mute the discussion of every game patch, sad.

Because its become a toxic non constructive place, fully understandable.

The game will never be the same and always beneath its original release, The quest Audio engine can't support advanced audio features that they had in the game before. The graphics literally had to be stripped down and changed to another renderer so "quest" can even run it. They should have completely separated the two games but instead decided to screw over the original PC players and force crossplay.

Publicado originalmente por GreenMan36:

Because its become a toxic non constructive place, fully understandable.

Of course it is. People paid money for this and it's not like they're giving refunds when they turned this into what is basically an unplayable mobile game.

I really wish steam would take action against this kind of ♥♥♥♥, especially since they kept selling the game for months with the old screenshots and videos still up from before they sold out. That's blatant scamming.

I'm surprised they have their discussion page open at all since they obviously don't care about their players one bit.