Too many Kids ?

[Jellyfish Nexus 3]

I feel like 50% of this playerbase consists of 10 year olds, ruining the entire gaming experience. Sorry if I have to be the one to say that, but I can't take this game seriously with all these little kids playing a game like this. It might be COVID 19 forcing them to stay at home, but it's still very irritating.

What's your opinion?

[Joker]

I disagree with the title a bit when it says "ruining the entire gaming experience" because as a relatively young Onward player most of us "kids" also want to enjoy the experience provided by Onward. I understand that some people find young players annoying and granted some are it just doesn't feel fair that we are labeled as ruining the experience because most of us are also trying to experience the game as the older players are.

[Pvt. Meatwad]

Originally posted by 36 bald fat lives with parents:

Snowbird and Jellyfish - you 2 both owe us all 50 push ups just for allowing pedantic buzz trends to persist in Onward forums. Anyone spewing "boomer" in anything - drop and give us 50!

Apart from that, an interesting branch off the notion of VR being bad for developing eyes - My daughter had an odd cluster of eye issues at birth and one of the regular treatments is to run through a series of exercises in VR because of how the independent screens are projected. Neither of my kids seem to have any issues separating VR from ... R... and they've been playing since I guess about age 4 each give or take. Nothing like Onward, although I would allow them to learn basic gun mechanics in Onward if they wanted to. And if they wanted to try PvE I would have them run with family members who have the game.

Bad parenting? I guess, depending on how you look at it. Learning the mechanics of a bolt action rifle might be safer in VR so long as it's not the only means one learns how to use a gun. Anyone living on a farm or ranch is likely to have to learn how is why I bring it up. Especially now as the world slowly dissolves, supplying the ammo for real life training would be pretty hard to keep up.

I dont think teaching kids safe weapon handling in vr is bad at all in fact its probably better than real life. But providing a very accurate and life like combat simulator to children with out proper guidance can be dangerous. Theve done studies showing some kids especially younger ones have trouble differentiating between what really happned(or was a dream) and what was in vr sometime after the fact. Its not the end of the world or even a big deal. Just something i dont think is great for kids definently not without explanation about how this isnt real and isnt something you can do outside the game. It sounds silly but kids can be very silly.

[Pvt. Meatwad]

Originally posted by cooked bread:

I disagree with the title a bit when it says "ruining the entire gaming experience" because as a relatively young Onward player most of us "kids" also want to enjoy the experience provided by Onward. I understand that some people find young players annoying and granted some are it just doesn't feel fair that we are labeled as ruining the experience because most of us are also trying to experience the game as the older players are.

some young people do ruin the experiance ive played with you and youre pretty good but go to any shooting range server and its full of annoying kids pointing guns and spawn killing its not only kids though this guy toe exotic(baldheaded) is an adult and hes the worst person ive ever met hes an arrogant c u n t who goes around shooting ranges randomly killing people thinking hes tough or skilled massive ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and im not the only one who thinks that so youre right its not only kids being lame lol and its not fair to say they are. like every time i go to a range lobby toe or some a hole with the same problem will always shoot me when im just trying to shoot targets then turns around and blames you for it its immature not all kids are immature and some adults are but speaking in generalities kids are more immature. but dont worry kiddo you seem mature and i dont see why anyone wouldnt want to play with you

[Ithendyr]

Deffinitively not a good idea to leave a game like Onward in the hands to young kids.
I've just played in coop with a 5 years old kid (or 10, i don't know exactly), they are scared by the ambiance, not earing at all, not playing with the team and do anything (and be dangerous for the team).
Psychologically I don't think this kind of game is good for them.

I don't understand with parents buy a game like that to a children...

[danknugz]

kids are fun to play cause they are easy kills

[Putty Patroller]

Kids are fine, it's just the ones that bring their obnoxious wannabe youtube personalities that suck. Which is around 60% of em.

[dumbkid:)]

Originally posted by VRA "snowbird" (She/Her):

I feel like 50% of this playerbase consists of Boomers, ruining the entire gaming experience. Sorry if I have to be the one to say that, but I can't have fun with all these Boomers playing the game like this. It might be COVID 19 forcing them to stay at home, but it's still very irritating.

What's your opinion?

tbh these boomers are very toxic

[dumbkid:)]

Originally posted by Theders95:

Originally posted by cooked bread:

I disagree with the title a bit when it says "ruining the entire gaming experience" because as a relatively young Onward player most of us "kids" also want to enjoy the experience provided by Onward. I understand that some people find young players annoying and granted some are it just doesn't feel fair that we are labeled as ruining the experience because most of us are also trying to experience the game as the older players are.

some young people do ruin the experiance ive played with you and youre pretty good but go to any shooting range server and its full of annoying kids pointing guns and spawn killing its not only kids though this guy toe exotic(baldheaded) is an adult and hes the worst person ive ever met hes an arrogant c u n t who goes around shooting ranges randomly killing people thinking hes tough or skilled massive ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and im not the only one who thinks that so youre right its not only kids being lame lol and its not fair to say they are. like every time i go to a range lobby toe or some a hole with the same problem will always shoot me when im just trying to shoot targets then turns around and blames you for it its immature not all kids are immature and some adults are but speaking in generalities kids are more immature. but dont worry kiddo you seem mature and i dont see why anyone wouldnt want to play with you

Yeah toe exotic/baldheaded is so toxic and gets very salty haha

[Ithendyr]

Originally posted by Fume:

Originally posted by VRA "snowbird" (She/Her):

I feel like 50% of this playerbase consists of Boomers, ruining the entire gaming experience. Sorry if I have to be the one to say that, but I can't have fun with all these Boomers playing the game like this. It might be COVID 19 forcing them to stay at home, but it's still very irritating.

What's your opinion?

tbh these boomers are very toxic

Originally posted by Fume:

Originally posted by Theders95:

some young people do ruin the experiance ive played with you and youre pretty good but go to any shooting range server and its full of annoying kids pointing guns and spawn killing its not only kids though this guy toe exotic(baldheaded) is an adult and hes the worst person ive ever met hes an arrogant c u n t who goes around shooting ranges randomly killing people thinking hes tough or skilled massive ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and im not the only one who thinks that so youre right its not only kids being lame lol and its not fair to say they are. like every time i go to a range lobby toe or some a hole with the same problem will always shoot me when im just trying to shoot targets then turns around and blames you for it its immature not all kids are immature and some adults are but speaking in generalities kids are more immature. but dont worry kiddo you seem mature and i dont see why anyone wouldnt want to play with you

Yeah toe exotic/baldheaded is so toxic and gets very salty haha

I do not think that this is a bad interpretation in view of the current particular situation (confinement) but I have been playing the game since long before this health situation and I have observed the same kind of behavior regularly.
Using the term "boomer" is not appropriate, it seems to me, because nothing implies this kind of behavior.

I think there are two kinds of people who play this game:
- Those who take the word developers and play closer "Mil-Sim".
- Those who play the game as if it were a basic FPS (in terms of gameplay, objectives and interactivity with the team) as if it were a popular FPS.

There are two levels of requirement, which I believe to be incompatible. Everyone must ask the question: "Is this the most suitable game for what I want?".


It should not be forgotten that many behave inappropriately as a team, whatever the game.

[Pvt. Meatwad]

Originally posted by Fume:

Originally posted by Theders95:

some young people do ruin the experiance ive played with you and youre pretty good but go to any shooting range server and its full of annoying kids pointing guns and spawn killing its not only kids though this guy toe exotic(baldheaded) is an adult and hes the worst person ive ever met hes an arrogant c u n t who goes around shooting ranges randomly killing people thinking hes tough or skilled massive ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and im not the only one who thinks that so youre right its not only kids being lame lol and its not fair to say they are. like every time i go to a range lobby toe or some a hole with the same problem will always shoot me when im just trying to shoot targets then turns around and blames you for it its immature not all kids are immature and some adults are but speaking in generalities kids are more immature. but dont worry kiddo you seem mature and i dont see why anyone wouldnt want to play with you

Yeah toe exotic/baldheaded is so toxic and gets very salty haha

yeah dude i hate that guy he should be banned

[Pvt. Meatwad]

Originally posted by Pepepito:

Originally posted by Fume:

tbh these boomers are very toxic

Originally posted by Fume:

Yeah toe exotic/baldheaded is so toxic and gets very salty haha

I do not think that this is a bad interpretation in view of the current particular situation (confinement) but I have been playing the game since long before this health situation and I have observed the same kind of behavior regularly.
Using the term "boomer" is not appropriate, it seems to me, because nothing implies this kind of behavior.

I think there are two kinds of people who play this game:
- Those who take the word developers and play closer "Mil-Sim".
- Those who play the game as if it were a basic FPS (in terms of gameplay, objectives and interactivity with the team) as if it were a popular FPS.

There are two levels of requirement, which I believe to be incompatible. Everyone must ask the question: "Is this the most suitable game for what I want?".


It should not be forgotten that many behave inappropriately as a team, whatever the game.

those are good points and i think youre right. in my experiance its generally young kids who want to play it like cod or any other kill focused fps of course thats not always true. but what makes this game diffrent is if your squad sucks youll likely get slaughtered too its much harder to be a one man wrecking ball in this type of game so their incompatance effects you.

[Mittens]

Originally posted by Vintage_Green:

too many bad parents VR literally isn't for kids it's bad for the development of their eyes

I'm new to owning a vr headset and I was pretty surprised to find just how many children were in the multiplayer games in spite of the intense amount of warnings my headset had around not letting children wear the headset.
Honestly parents, even if there's only a low risk you could permanently damage your child for the rest of their lives, probably just play it safe with something as superfluous as VR right?
If you're a kid playing VR, seriously consider just leaving it alone until you're 18 for your own future. Having screwed up perception, co-ordination or eye-sight is not something anyone wants to live with

[Yagyu]

if i can punch a kid in vr i'll take it cant do it irl

[NoMaD]

I would like to bring a few things to the table here and ask some questions..
Being a parent and actually having two great teenagers who grew up with some restrictions on game play and movie's etc.

I grew up in Europe and played "war" in gear from young age and played in real bunkers etc and I have a deep "appreciation" on the horrors of ww2 ww1 etc and what ppl have gone through as I've absorbed everything history and real life stories etc what I could/can get my hands on. War is horrible (and NOTHING like the games we play). But playing "war" is a different matter and I've played with my kids from young age chasing each other with guns shooting foam bullets etc, just as we play tag.
like a game of paintball, it's a game.. let's not forget this?
(side note: I do worry about the realism games are bringing in, vr or not, for all ages, revelling in blood and gore)

The shock what I have actually experienced and I lose my **** is where adults and teens treating younger teens and kids VERY poorly and there is no accountability to their behaviour -I speak of other games than this as I actually cringe and not want to get into games like these BECAUSE of the poor behaviour of some of any age and would actually say the toxic behaviour some "adults" display is far worse than a kid doing some of the stuff discussed here.. Seriously ppl grow up, set an example, be a role model. We ALL have been kids and we all had to learn. Treat ppl with respect regardless of age. And don't think that playing a GAME like this makes anyone a soldier or bad-ass etc. keep your ego at home and go talk to some veterans to get a proper understanding..
rant over..
Some are talking about the blurred lines of reality of the game, your behaviour and treatment of others is REAL, and HAS effects on the younger. Making a post with this headline is definitely not a mature way to address something like this and is not giving respect to other "kids" (16y/old are still kids).. some great discussion came out of it tho.

Having said that, I would like to see an accountability system in place in games where ppl are held accountable as yes team killing and the like is not on but even more so toxic behaviour ppl would not do/or get away with in real life f2f.
what is in place?
At the same time also a safe place for new players that want to learn the game should be there and what is in place for this game?
I saw private servers ->hard to do if you're getting to know ppl to play with.
discord?

what is the community in general like?

Being a parent I can say it's difficult to put an age on things as my oldest was ready earlier for things than my youngest.

[Tigercat]

If i were a developer of this game i would certainly put an age verifiaction on the room,
people can come in putting a fake age, but they also will know they are not welcome if their age dont meet the criteria, so they would probably be kicked out.

Im the one too who dont stand any kids voice on a war enviroment.