When will there be an l85 in the game?? if where not i will start a petiton

[lukesterw11]

I love the american weapons and gear but we should get an l85!! Also we should have character coustomization....

[36 bald fat lives with parents]

It's in the game already. Its designation is L86a2 LSW and it is in the support class. Formerly known as the SA-80. It is effectively the same thing as a L85 in about the same way the M1014 is a Benelli M4, the M39 is an M1A in a Sage Chassis, and so on.

[>>>>>>>>>>>SYCSPY<<<<<<<<<<<]

G3A3 is a better gun than the SA80. Don't request weapons in this game, if you want guns, go for H3VR.

[falkenbbs]

SA-80 is my favorite rifle in this game. It's already in Onward.

[MrDeath]

The SA-80 stands for the family of rifles. the rifle we have ingame is the l86a2, not the l85

[36 bald fat lives with parents]

Call me crazy but I'd say that's close enough.

Now... about player customization. Unless you mean the face features, skin tone, and possibly gender then you would have to clarify what the devs should infer from this. If you mean something outright offensive like "fortnite skins" - a term I'd gladly never hear again - then just don't. The day Onward steps out of MilSim and into the tragic world of sandbox random nonsense destiny type idiocy is the day I skin a puppy and throw my VR machine in the garbage. But of course if you mean name patches and general appearance customization then yeah, I second. I always thought Onward would benefit from in game stats and general specificity over the loadouts. If for no other reason than to just make people feel more attached to their avatar and more likely to care about how they play the game. If I knew my team kills were public and possibly the basis for allowing me on a server, I will be more likely to preserve that stat. Same for visual assignments I guess. If it looks like how I want to make it look, I admit I am a little more into it.

Obviously, fix the game first. But at some point these kinds of improvements might really make a difference.

[lukesterw11]

Originally posted by 36 bald fat lives with parents:

It's in the game already. Its designation is L86a2 LSW and it is in the support class. Formerly known as the SA-80. It is effectively the same thing as a L85 in about the same way the M1014 is a Benelli M4, the M39 is an M1A in a Sage Chassis, and so on.

nah i mean the a2 and a3 plus the l86 is much different

[lukesterw11]

Originally posted by falkenbbs:

SA-80 is my favorite rifle in this game. It's already in Onward.

its not its the l86

[36 bald fat lives with parents]

Same difference in video game land.

They used to have a USP pistol in the game. I'm not positive but I think the service weapons would have been the Mk23 and not the USP, but none the less, it was close enough despite the literal differences in the actual guns being substantial enough to consider them totally different weapons. You may have to be content with the L86a2. Unless the devs are willing to replace the L86 with an L85.

I think the L85 had tactical mounts like picatinny rails and such, and slightly different furnishings, but would have to service for what you're looking for the same way someone wanting an M4A1 will have to settle for the M16 or the Mk18. It's just a bit too much to ask for numerous variations of the same gun in a game like this, especially a weird offshoot like the SA-80 family. Such is the same reason I can only hope they bring back the USP some day. It adds very little to the experience to have either of our preferences in the game at the cost of dev time, interface, and performance to everyone else.

But...

Suppose you have a rational argument for this request. It might be nice to have someone spell out the differences and why an L85 would be more logical in Onward. Pics included if they can be posted in these forums. I'd like to read that.

[[ACPL] Jon]

Originally posted by MrDeath:

The SA-80 stands for the family of rifles. the rifle we have ingame is the l86a2, not the l85

How hard would it be to make an L85 out of it for the Rifleman?

[36 bald fat lives with parents]

Hard enough to not justify it. It would need a whole model because they are ultimately different enough where a skin wouldn't cut it. One more model to load in is one more way performance can go down.

I'm sure we'll see some more "other games do this or that" but it's really what the Onward engine can handle. Not what others do.

[lukesterw11]

Originally posted by 36 bald fat lives with parents:

Hard enough to not justify it. It would need a whole model because they are ultimately different enough where a skin wouldn't cut it. One more model to load in is one more way performance can go down.

I'm sure we'll see some more "other games do this or that" but it's really what the Onward engine can handle. Not what others do.

they could use the l86 model as a starter anjd it one gun wouldnt affect performance

[lukesterw11]

Originally posted by >>>>>>>>>>>SYCSPY<<<<<<<<<<<:

G3A3 is a better gun than the SA80. Don't request weapons in this game, if you want guns, go for H3VR.

g3a3 isnt its too big and recoil is heavy

[Bingu!]

Originally posted by MrDeath:

The SA-80 stands for the family of rifles. the rifle we have ingame is the l86a2, not the l85

its close enough you goblin

[lukesterw11]

Originally posted by lukesterw11:

Originally posted by >>>>>>>>>>>SYCSPY<<<<<<<<<<<:

G3A3 is a better gun than the SA80. Don't request weapons in this game, if you want guns, go for H3VR.

g3a3 isnt its too big and recoil is heavy

cant shoot people in h3vr nor can you see ur own arms or anything plus please give me a reason the g3a3 is better than the l85a2 or a3

[36 bald fat lives with parents]

All things going on in the game, making a change to debatably the most hated weapon in the game seems like it would fall very low on the priority list. Even if it's just a texture change. The asset is done as it is now. That's one thing they can relax on and focus on all else that's on fire.

If you have a compelling argument for why they should do any of this, please illustrate it clearly and with far more words than a twitter post. I'm not a dev, but I can guarantee a string of one liners, half misspelled, and with no punctuation is definitely not going to be factored in improvements. But an eloquent and articulated explanation for why the current in game choice is inaccurate for the theme of the game because of numerous factors, then perhaps they may agree and eventually consider it. I mean things like raw data - number deployed, mechanical history, fail comparisons, duration of contracts, etc. Whatever can support your claim.

Otherwise there's nothing constructive about this thread.