Monk, M/F Striker, or M Nen?

[Rithm Fluffderg]

I'm having difficult choosing which one I want to pick to fill my need for a pugilist archetype.

Usually, I just call this my "Monk mood", but in this case, the Monk/Infighter has a pretty high skill floor, from what it seems. I'm not very good at fighting games, so I'm honestly kinda intimidated by the playing style. Especially since the only controller I have is a 360 controller and I'm not sure how good that is for games like this. I can't afford an arcade controller.

So, it seems like the next logical step would be to look at the Strikers - either of them. Not quite sure which one to pick though - not a big fan of how boxing gloves look but that's honestly not a problem. I'm leaning towards M. Striker, but F. Striker does have quite a bit of merit to her. It's been a long time since I looked at them, though, and last I heard, they were more of a PvP class than a PvE one, though certainly competent.

Which brings me to the last, probably most out of place option - M. Nen. One of the things I like about monks, other than their martial arts, is their spiritual powers, especially the manipulation of ki. M. Nen combines his nen into his fighting style, being more hands-on, though certainly quite blasty. F. Nen, on the other hand, is almost pure blasty power, so she doesn't really satisfy my need for martial arts as much as M. Nen does... though maybe he doesn't either :/

Grapplers are really cool in concept, for the record, but that's more of a mood all on its own. And Brawler/Street Fighter?

Basically, I'm having a hard time figuring out which of these classes would best satisfy my mood, and because of that, I'm being indecisive. It'd help me figure things out.

Oh, and whether the class is competitive in end-game or not is not something I'm worried about. Even if I only played FOTM classes, I'd still never be able to keep up due to my slow pace at playing games =w=

[Fuyuki]

tbh monk is the only 1 that even fits ur idealized vision of the pugilist archetype since ki/chi manipulation tends to be a eastern specific thing instead of something to do with monks of the western definition and usually incorporates some fantasy elements which is where most of the rest of the classes that fits the pugilist archetype in dfo comes in and the western's spiritual wise concept tends to be something mor augmentative or enlightenment empowering which is where monk class in dfo fits in

ur right about f nen, shes mor of a caster type taking the fantastical elements of ki/chi manipulation to the extreme and m nen isnt that much different from her, hes just mor in ur face about it with some of his skills and overall playstyle, the differences would be tht m nen is mix of melee and mid range in his use of it while f nen is mor comfortable with mid to long range but still does retain some melee capabilities, m nen is also mor offensive too while fnen can use it for defense/support

strikers r the next closest thing cept they dont stick to using their fist, both uses their legs a good amount in their skills with f striker using a mix of both punches and kicks but leans mor towards fist and m striker leans heavily to kicks, f striker is mor or less a trained street brawler to the extremely as a unstoppable no-holds-barred beatdown in aesthetic design while m striker is a bonafide martial artist trained to simply be the strongest, fastest and most powerful, neither of them follow any specific combat styles instead just focusing on a continuous chain of simple but powerful, heavy and fast strikes (hence the class name) and neither of them bothers with any specific supernatural powers either whether its spiritual or chi/ki so u lucked out in that department though m striker does train himself to the point of being super human which is why his awakening skill puts his leg on fire and casts him in a dark shadow

brawler's fit wut u want the least, in kr their original name is "street fighter" and is pretty much a street brawler like fstriker is but while fstriker is clean in her fighting using only her fist and legs both brawlers employs dirty tricks with needles, bricks, chains, claws, hooks, bombs, poison, sand in eye etc and anything else they can get their hands on to be a combat pragmatist, m brawler focus mor on actually trying to hit stuff with his skills from a range whipping around chains, throwing bricks, needles wires,barrels and a smashing stuff with a barbed wired bat covered in explosives while f brawler is the in ur face fighter doing her dirty tricks mor discretely and focus on dealing dmg through the poison abnormal status aliment

tl'dr; monk is like ur only option unless u ur willing to be flexible and tbh hes not actually that hard, its only really in pvp or when u wanna actually get real fancy that some technical skill and knowledge starts being a requirement

[Rithm Fluffderg]

I'm not sure what the western definition of monk has to do with this considering this is an eastern game, but nevertheless, that was some pretty good insight.

I suppose I'll just have to swallow my hesitation and learn how to git gud with Monk/Infighter.

[joj0.st4r]

I could see that monk and striker on a controller could be an issue
they need smooth transitions in their links/combos
and since on a controller you most likely need to input some of the moves on your own
more complex like linking hcb+z into hcf+space into f,b,f,f+z and so on fast so not to drop the combo
could be problematic if u do not like fighting games lol

not hard on a keyboard of course... its just pressing the right button at the right time...

in that case I recommend male nen
he basically only have 3-5 moves you need to learn
the rest is buffs that stay active after u activate them
and he does not use combos/links like the others do

oh
and he is fun to play...compared to striker who is a complete bore

[Rithm Fluffderg]

I'll just stick to keyboard, actually.

I'll also probably make a Male Nen as well because why not? Though I did go with a Monk after all, since the previous poster made a good point - they are the only class the blends physical might with spiritual powers in a harmonious way.

[joj0.st4r]

not sure where the spiritual part comes in with monk
he is more like ur typical steroid pumped heavyweight boxer than harmonious and spiritual

he just punches things
and happens to be part of a religious order

[Rithm Fluffderg]

Originally posted by joj0.st4r:

not sure where the spiritual part comes in with monk
he is more like ur typical steroid pumped heavyweight boxer than harmonious and spiritual

he just punches things
and happens to be part of a religious order

Fists glow with spiritual energy, has some powers (like the ability to create shadows of himself).

Doesn't strictly have ki but he's a blessed pugilist so it's close enough.

[Fuyuki]

Originally posted by HeroicSkaldZach:

I'm not sure what the western definition of monk has to do with this considering this is an eastern game, but nevertheless, that was some pretty good insight.

cuz u said 1 of the things u like about monks is their spiritual powers, especially the manipulation of ki and such

i mentioned it cuz from my experiences and afaik monks with spiritual or ki/chi/energy powers tend to be mainly an eastern thing with the westen perspective of them being mor akin to something similar to crusaders or knights with flails and bludgeoning weapons and their associated tropes if it isnt either a spiritually augmentative/enlightenment empowering thing or the whole speak some prayer/recite bible and then evil creatures wail in agony in the monk's presence before dying idea instead and while the bare-fisted warrior monk archetype isnt strictly an eastern thing it actually is strictly a fantasy concept for the western definition as it originated from borrowing elements from eastern monks and applying them to western's christian monks while eastern's monks having martial powers does hav some truth to it, thats not to say there isnt any actual examples of western monks having martial knowledge but those r rather exceptions then any sorta standard

sry if it sounded something like opinion bashing but i figured i'd explain the differences in aesthetics and designs of the classes and u make the choice urself since pugilist seems to be ur primary requirement and chi/ki/energy manipulation secondary which i though was relevant since ur choice of word "pugilist" is typically a western oriented word and is really just another way of saying boxer/boxing which is also western oriented so i figured ur looking for a boxer that uses spiritual powers or chi manipulation which tends to (no offense) fall into the realm of "did not do their research propertly"

though in the end monk is pretty much the only 1 that fits the pugilist requirement but outside of his devout mental fortitude he doesnt come close to the whole spiritual/ki thing and a mnen being the perfect example of ur secondary requirement but is definitely not a boxer in the slightest

[Rithm Fluffderg]

I used "pugilist" mostly because I didn't want to use the word "monk" because someone was gonna read it and go "just play monk durrrrrr".

I wasn't gonna win, though - if I used martial artist, that would've indicated one of the Fighters :/ oh well.

[Fuyuki]

well in the end its really how u can spin a concept since despite how bare-fist monks r portrayed in games and media, boxers ≠ monks, the same idea can be viewed in many different ways so it wouldve probably been best to just explained overall wut ur looking for or use a term thats less specific or mor vague like fighter/warrior (probably depends on the context), kickboxer, infighter (bad example since dfo's monk's original name is infighter) or simply just hand to hand combat class instead of using terms alone that comes with their own connotations and not much else

something unique about dfo is that no 2 classes plays similarly, even same class among different genders r different so try as many different classes out as u can since wut u might initially be looking for may not be the 1 u actually like best, having a bunch of alts is encouraged in the grand scheme of things and lvling is pretty easy anyway

[Rithm Fluffderg]

True.

In fact, I plan on creating a Nen Master anyways.

Though I'm actually wondering if I should create a Female Nen after all.
Hmm. I'll do my own research into this =_= Thanks for your time

[Fuyuki]

good luck on that

personally im not a fan of fnen her simplicity is too much for me, mnen is alright i guess but the only fighter subclass i didnt jsut throw to the mercy of the dust bunnies at the bck of the self after i got them to lvl cap was fbrawler cuz i prefer classes that r mor technical in their use of skills to handle different situations with utility