Demon Lord Hanako min/max

[Daigotsu]

Min/max here (I know it's not necessery to beat the most powerful foe of the game).

I gave DL Hanako Fists, and now I'm wondering what to perfect my Ultimus and SRS. Attack means her specials would do more damage, speed means more dodge (not necessary, but min/max for fun). Any suggestions? Hanako attack is 120% and speed 140%.

BTW, how exactly specials work? Let's say I have 255 on fists, and do a special with a modifier of 140%. Then I do a character special with the same modifier (140%). Should they do the same damage or the weapon mastery changes this?

[ShinkuTear]

Weapon mastery for non-staff weapons does 2 things: Lets you learn weapon specific specials, and raises all stats of weapons of that type by a %.

Using Sword for example: If Blade Rush had the same power as a character specific Atk based move, and the character used both, the two should deal the same damage, within reason(enemy def, random variance, etc).

With Fist, there will be some damage gap between character and weapon specials, since weapon are (Atk+Spd)/2 for the offensive stat total, while character are just the listed stat, Atk for DL Hanako, but the gap will favor what you *want* it to favor.

[MeowMixMax]

What I did was when I was finished getting her 186k stored levels I gave her a base att of 255(270 with good RNG) and then perfected the Ultimus for her in Speed since she will get a higher average damage that way thanks to the 140% aptitude.

[Daigotsu]

Originally posted by ShinkuTear:

Weapon mastery for non-staff weapons does 2 things: Lets you learn weapon specific specials, and raises all stats of weapons of that type by a %.

Using Sword for example: If Blade Rush had the same power as a character specific Atk based move, and the character used both, the two should deal the same damage, within reason(enemy def, random variance, etc).

With Fist, there will be some damage gap between character and weapon specials, since weapon are (Atk+Spd)/2 for the offensive stat total, while character are just the listed stat, Atk for DL Hanako, but the gap will favor what you *want* it to favor.

Uou, that explains everything. Thanks!!! And actually thanks for all! You help me quite a lot, even when it was on Disgaea 1. :D

Originally posted by MeowMixMax:

What I did was when I was finished getting her 186k stored levels I gave her a base att of 255(270 with good RNG) and then perfected the Ultimus for her in Speed since she will get a higher average damage that way thanks to the 140% aptitude.

The only thing that bothers me is Sexy Beam. I saw on a website, and it might be wrong, but it's modifier was listes as 260%. Seems a little too huge for me, but for sure it does a lot more damage then Big Bang on a 0% fire res monster. Might be because of the formula (att + spd)/2.

Sexy Beam would be like an AoE for fire resistance foes. Wasn't for Sexy Beam, and I would go speed all the way.

[MeowMixMax]

260% seems way to high, it's probably 160% but I could be wrong of course.

[Zukabazuka]

Originally posted by MeowMixMax:

260% seems way to high, it's probably 160% but I could be wrong of course.

Don't believe its wrong because it do way to much damage for a skill. It does up to 100k damage for me even if the average stats on her around 10k each.