Any ways to unlock Type VIIC?

[Alpha1]

I failed to compleat tonnage war, so one Boat upgrade point is missing.
is there any other ways to unlock Type VIIC?

[Mouse Rat]

If you can't do the tonnage war for the blueprint i'd suggest lowering the difficulty and trying again.
It's a single player game..you make your own rules.
There is no point in increasing the difficulty to the point of having to cheat.. but again, you r game.. do what you want.

Or starting directly with the VIIB

[Alpha1]

Originally posted by Mouse Rat:

If you can't do the tonnage war for the blueprint i'd suggest lowering the difficulty and trying again.
It's a single player game..you make your own rules.
There is no point in increasing the difficulty to the point of having to cheat.. but again, you r game.. do what you want.

Or starting directly with the VIIB

Oh then there's no way to unlock Type VIIC, thanks
I was adaptating during tonnage war, that would be failure point.
difficulty is fine, currently.

[Mouse Rat]

There are other blueprints.. that you can't get with the IIA
Most likely have to restart.

Since the Tonnage war doesn't even last that long into 1940 i've even stopped from going on "vacation" with the crew, until that one is done.
I've used to do 21days vacation every other mission.. not anymore.

[Alpha1]

Originally posted by Mouse Rat:

There are other blueprints.. that you can't get with the IIA
Most likely have to restart.

Since the Tonnage war doesn't even last that long into 1940 i've even stopped from going on "vacation" with the crew, until that one is done.
I've used to do 21days vacation every other mission.. not anymore.

Does Type VIIC is way better then Type VIIB?
I'm on 1941 July now and on Type VIIB, Is it worth starting over?

[Mouse Rat]

Originally posted by Alpha1:

Originally posted by Mouse Rat:

There are other blueprints.. that you can't get with the IIA
Most likely have to restart.

Since the Tonnage war doesn't even last that long into 1940 i've even stopped from going on "vacation" with the crew, until that one is done.
I've used to do 21days vacation every other mission.. not anymore.

Does Type VIIC is way better then Type VIIB?
I'm on 1941 July now and on Type VIIB, Is it worth starting over?

Way better is relative to what you wanna do .. i'd check what blueprints are potentially available for you if you complete stages for the missions within your time frame.

I think the main difference is the new TDC what can track AOB ? don't quote me on that one.

[Niras]

Originally posted by Alpha1:

Originally posted by Mouse Rat:

There are other blueprints.. that you can't get with the IIA
Most likely have to restart.

Since the Tonnage war doesn't even last that long into 1940 i've even stopped from going on "vacation" with the crew, until that one is done.
I've used to do 21days vacation every other mission.. not anymore.

Does Type VIIC is way better then Type VIIB?
I'm on 1941 July now and on Type VIIB, Is it worth starting over?

In few aspects:

• conning tower can be upgraded,
  
• torpedoes can be launch while turning, in previous subs you can make freshly launch torpedo a instant dud if you're turning while launching
  
• better torpedo calculator = more accuracy

It's small upgrade like going from IIA to IID

Not sure if you need to VIIC to unlock VIIC/43 tho...

[Noctover]

I'm confused, I've just finish my 1st patrol and am headed to the English Channel for my second, I've already completed rank 1 and 2 of the tonnage war just on my first patrol and I'm 82584 of 100000 toward finishing... I expect to be finish during this patrol. Is it really deemed hard to complete in time, or am i the only one who only goes home after firing all torpedo's?

[Niras]

Originally posted by Noctover:

I'm confused, I've just finish my 1st patrol and am headed to the English Channel for my second, I've already completed rank 1 and 2 of the tonnage war just on my first patrol and I'm 82584 of 100000 toward finishing... I expect to be finish during this patrol. Is it really deemed hard to complete in time, or am i the only one who only goes home after firing all torpedo's?

It's quite challenging to complete it, if you're hunting for ships only during patrol missions and use return to port early.

I often went to hunt for additional ships on UK's east coast(between London and Edinburgh) after missions. I usually returned to port if I was running on fuel or/and torpedoes.
Additionally, I hunt for ships even during non patrol missions like delivering agents because progress counts outside of patrols as long as you meet the requirements, if there are any(Happy time tiles).

Ircc I finished it around december of 1939 or january of 1940.
just remember to use electric engines on surface often while using first two types of subs for conserving fuel.

Also inspect netural ships cuz they're fairly often valid targets if you find out they're swimmingg under false flag.
I recommend getting navigator skill asap cuz merchant skill check rarely prove's they're lying(for me not even once and I'm in 1941 atm) while navigator's proves neutral ships are valid targets 80% of the time.

[XLjedi]

On your next career, try starting the game like this:
https://youtu.be/hxZQA9H5Ss0?si=URCx7z3bMgXkdOa2

[Noctover]

Originally posted by Niras:

Originally posted by Noctover:

I'm confused, I've just finish my 1st patrol and am headed to the English Channel for my second, I've already completed rank 1 and 2 of the tonnage war just on my first patrol and I'm 82584 of 100000 toward finishing... I expect to be finish during this patrol. Is it really deemed hard to complete in time, or am i the only one who only goes home after firing all torpedo's?

It's quite challenging to complete it, if you're hunting for ships only during patrol missions and use return to port early.

I often went to hunt for additional ships on UK's east coast(between London and Edinburgh) after missions. I usually returned to port if I was running on fuel or/and torpedoes.
Additionally, I hunt for ships even during non patrol missions like delivering agents because progress counts outside of patrols as long as you meet the requirements, if there are any(Happy time tiles).

Ircc I finished it around december of 1939 or january of 1940.
just remember to use electric engines on surface often while using first two types of subs for conserving fuel.

Also inspect netural ships cuz they're fairly often valid targets if you find out they're swimmingg under false flag.
I recommend getting navigator skill asap cuz merchant skill check rarely prove's they're lying(for me not even once and I'm in 1941 atm) while navigator's proves neutral ships are valid targets 80% of the time.

I guess that'll be it then. I never return home with fish in the barrel, s'long as i have food and fuel i just go my own way until I'm out of torps. Seems like a waste to return back with unfired ordinance if you don't need to.

I'm on 3rd October 1939 currently and i expect to finish the Tonnage War this patrol, so it can be done if you don't do the bare minimum and just stay out :).

[Mouse Rat]

Originally posted by Noctover:

I'm confused, I've just finish my 1st patrol and am headed to the English Channel for my second, I've already completed rank 1 and 2 of the tonnage war just on my first patrol and I'm 82584 of 100000 toward finishing... I expect to be finish during this patrol. Is it really deemed hard to complete in time, or am i the only one who only goes home after firing all torpedo's?

Sounds like you regularly kill more than 80k tonnage which is .. uncommon. or not really possible?
Especially with 3-4k ships.
You would have to kill more than 7x 11k tankers + 1x random 4k
Even if you use explosives.. you only get 1 per run , and you don't have the ENgi trait yet to scuttle them.

The best i've ever got with the dingy was 26k
Very curious on how you get 80k+

Got video or some screenshots?

[Noctover]

Originally posted by Mouse Rat:

Originally posted by Noctover:

I'm confused, I've just finish my 1st patrol and am headed to the English Channel for my second, I've already completed rank 1 and 2 of the tonnage war just on my first patrol and I'm 82584 of 100000 toward finishing... I expect to be finish during this patrol. Is it really deemed hard to complete in time, or am i the only one who only goes home after firing all torpedo's?

Sounds like you regularly kill more than 80k tonnage which is .. uncommon. or not really possible?
Especially with 3-4k ships.
You would have to kill more than 7x 11k tankers + 1x random 4k
Even if you use explosives.. you only get 1 per run , and you don't have the ENgi trait yet to scuttle them.

The best i've ever got with the dingy was 26k
Very curious on how you get 80k+

Got video or some screenshots?

You can see my tonnage, you can see I'm on Patrol 2, you can see the current dates.

Sank 15 ships on Patrol 1, ships 12 13 and 14 were large tankers in a convoy at the mouth of the Port of London.

[Noctover]

Should point out i am in the VIIB not the Type II, reading back it may be that people were finding it hard to do this with a Type II, in which case carry on and ignore me as i don't qualify :).

[dbond1]

If you missed out on the blueprint from Tonnage War, do Atlantic theater operations, or the Black Pit to get the next one.

[Mouse Rat]

Originally posted by Noctover:

Sank 15 ships on Patrol 1

It's a singleplayer game.. you can play as you like.
But there is a huge difference between the virtually unlimited range VIIB with 16 torps + deck gun + AA gun ?
and the dingy with 5 with zero range.

You should probably specify where your gameplay lands since the settings can vary wildly.
This is the same as starting on easy enemies then complain the AI is bad. ..