AMD driver CTD, system freeze, reboot required

[Bucketsmith]

EDIT: There's your typical asperger cringelords toxifying this thread with nothing to contribute.
Right now the devs have given zero response about their game not working well on this card and they should have.

7900XTX
Win11
Modded: yes

I look at my log but I'm not reading anything specifically making the crash happen, tied to a specific mod. Maybe I'm not versed enough.

I've had it happen 3 times now, but otherwise the game is very stable.
All three monitors turn black, after half a minute I get booted to dekstop and I get picture back.
Game is still running in background, unpaused. I can hear the crew talk.
AMD GPU driver crashed and throws up the error reporting tool.
I can't really alt-tab back in to the game. I can alt-enter it into windowed mode, it is just a black screen there.
The game will either crash on itself or I force-end the task.
The rest of my system will now slowly become more and more unresponsive.
I have to force a restart.

Anyone else on AMD that has this issue?

[hanspni]

I have AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT, so far the game run very smooth!

[Aklon]

I have a 7900XTX. I have also always had this problem with this game. I hoped that the problem would be fixed in the full release but unfortunately it is still there. It seems that it is a problem between this game and this specific graphics card for some reason.

[Bucketsmith]

Originally posted by Aklon:

I have a 7900XTX. I have also always had this problem with this game. I hoped that the problem would be fixed in the full release but unfortunately it is still there. It seems that it is a problem between this game and this specific graphics card for some reason.

I've got a 7900XTX too!
I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one, then.
But this is by no means a good thing, sigh.
Time Compression isn't really a problem, except for 15000x, on my system.
But just out of nowhere when I get in to a 3D fight, it will run fine for hours on end and then randomly crash.
If I restart the PC and reload the save right before engaging, it will just work fine again.

[Freman]

I'm crashing at least once per game session and can happen after playing for ages, I reload the game but the motivation is gone for the session because of it. 7900XTX

[Tikigod]

Originally posted by Bucketsmith:

7900XTX
Win11
Modded: yes

I look at my log but I'm not reading anything specifically making the crash happen, tied to a specific mod. Maybe I'm not versed enough.

I've had it happen 3 times now, but otherwise the game is very stable.
All three monitors turn black, after half a minute I get booted to dekstop and I get picture back.
Game is still running in background, unpaused. I can hear the crew talk.
AMD GPU driver crashed and throws up the error reporting tool.
I can't really alt-tab back in to the game. I can alt-enter it into windowed mode, it is just a black screen there.
The game will either crash on itself or I force-end the task.
The rest of my system will now slowly become more and more unresponsive.
I have to force a restart.

Anyone else on AMD that has this issue?

Playing on a 6900XT and have absolutely no problems.

Potentially sounds like you have a bad driver installation.

One thing to note is that with Windows 11 Microsoft have become increasingly aggressive with replacing official drivers with Microsoft 'tweaked' drivers through Windows Update, this year alone I've had my GPU drivers get 'Updated' by Windows to a modified set Microsoft rolled out 5 times, which then gave me all sorts of problems including game stability issues to lost functionality in AMDs Crimson/Adrenaline, like screen recording being reported as "Not supported" because Microsoft cut support for that functionality out of their modified drivers.

As the Microsoft drivers are given revision numbers higher than the official AMD ones, your typical driver update software be it Crimson/Adrenaline or anything else won't report that there's newer official drivers to update to, but you can spot it has happened, do a full driver removal and then download and install the official AMD drivers again.

To spot if you need to do so, check if Crimson/Adrenaline reports your drivers have a version revision higher than the official AMD drivers published, if so then Windows update has switched your old drivers out with Microsoft's modified ones, and you really should removal all trace of it from your system using something like Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU), then install the official AMD drivers again.

I'm hoping Microsoft ease up on the practise moving forward with Windows 11, as it causes nothing but stability problems and users entirely unaware that their OS has just swapped out hardware drivers on them without a word, to then think the problem is with their hardware or the official drivers they think they're still using.



Edit: And if you're finding AMDs GPU software won't even open for you, then that just confirms you have a problematic driver installation, and really should look into doing a full clean out using DDU and then install everything fresh.

[hanspni]

Originally posted by Tikigod:

Originally posted by Bucketsmith:

7900XTX
Win11
Modded: yes

I look at my log but I'm not reading anything specifically making the crash happen, tied to a specific mod. Maybe I'm not versed enough.

I've had it happen 3 times now, but otherwise the game is very stable.
All three monitors turn black, after half a minute I get booted to dekstop and I get picture back.
Game is still running in background, unpaused. I can hear the crew talk.
AMD GPU driver crashed and throws up the error reporting tool.
I can't really alt-tab back in to the game. I can alt-enter it into windowed mode, it is just a black screen there.
The game will either crash on itself or I force-end the task.
The rest of my system will now slowly become more and more unresponsive.
I have to force a restart.

Anyone else on AMD that has this issue?

Playing on a 6900XT and have absolutely no problems.

Potentially sounds like you have a bad driver installation.

One thing to note is that with Windows 11 Microsoft have become increasingly aggressive with replacing official drivers with Microsoft 'tweaked' drivers through Windows Update, this year alone I've had my GPU drivers get 'Updated' by Windows to a modified set Microsoft rolled out, which then gave me all sorts of problems including lost functionality in Crimson, like screen recording being reported as "Not supported" because Microsoft cut functionality out of their modified drivers.

As the Microsoft drivers are given revision numbers higher than the official AMD ones, your typical driver update software program be it Crimson or anything else won't report that there's newer official drivers to update, but you can spot it has happened, do a full driver removal and then download the official AMD drivers again by comparing the driver version reported in Crimson to the official AMD driver revision number.

If Crimson reports your drivers have a version revision higher than the official AMD drivers published, then Windows have switched them out with Microsoft's modified ones.

I switched to manual upgrade og my drivers because of that. I got so problems suddenly in games and regular twich watch. Microsoft had changed my drivers. I have also downloaded guru3d to remove all grapic drivers and install the newest. Old drivers causes problem, but i have not used it yet. So i can`t garantee anything!

[Tikigod]

Originally posted by hanspni:

Originally posted by Tikigod:

Playing on a 6900XT and have absolutely no problems.

Potentially sounds like you have a bad driver installation.

One thing to note is that with Windows 11 Microsoft have become increasingly aggressive with replacing official drivers with Microsoft 'tweaked' drivers through Windows Update, this year alone I've had my GPU drivers get 'Updated' by Windows to a modified set Microsoft rolled out, which then gave me all sorts of problems including lost functionality in Crimson, like screen recording being reported as "Not supported" because Microsoft cut functionality out of their modified drivers.

As the Microsoft drivers are given revision numbers higher than the official AMD ones, your typical driver update software program be it Crimson or anything else won't report that there's newer official drivers to update, but you can spot it has happened, do a full driver removal and then download the official AMD drivers again by comparing the driver version reported in Crimson to the official AMD driver revision number.

If Crimson reports your drivers have a version revision higher than the official AMD drivers published, then Windows have switched them out with Microsoft's modified ones.

I switched to manual upgrade og my drivers because of that. I got so problems suddenly in games and regular twich watch. Microsoft had changed my drivers. I have also downloaded guru3d to remove all grapic drivers and install the newest. Old drivers causes problem, but i have not used it yet. So i can`t garantee anything!

Yeah Microsoft have been switching things around I've noticed.

At one time I seem to recall there were options in Windows Update to just disable the behaviour. That's now gone.

There is still the buried option in:

Settings -> System -> About -> Advanced Settings -> Hardware -> Device Installation Settings

And then selecting 'No' to Windows automatically downloading and installing software, icons and drivers for installed hardware.

But even then every now and then it seems some Microsoft tweaked driver is something that is deemed so crucial that it makes it way and gets installed as part of a Windows Update process.


I really do hope Microsoft drop this practise and just realise that it's such a bad behaviour to be quietly replacing out device and chipset drivers for things are crucial as the GPU and CPU when it comes to system stability, especially with zero notification to the user.

[cato]

Proud Radeon RX 6800 owner here, fantastic card and no issue here.

[hanspni]

Originally posted by cato:

Proud Radeon RX 6800 owner here, fantastic card and no issue here.

I have a rx 6800 xt to. Runs very good on Ubout game, dirt rally 2.0 etc. In transport fever 2 i have major issues with micro stuttering late in the game. It`s a very good card in those games it runs like it should. Others not so much. If u search micro stuttering our card is the problem in many cases. If i could find a card that i was sure would fix the problem in the games that is important to me. I would change!

[cato]

Cards that fix all issues cost north of £1000 easily.

[Gaz]

Use DDU to remove the drivers then reinstall. follow the DDU instructions, even if you think some seems unnecessary.

[Slinky]

I have a 7900XT and no problems with Uboat, have you checked the temps on your card after boot up and then during game play? Is it happening on this game alone? def sounds a bit screwy to me.

[Bucketsmith]

Temps are no issue.

[Freman]

7900XTX: I've done the removal and reinstall of driver, disabled the steam overlay & the Windows 11 game bar /capture features. Still crashes.

[Freman]

One thing I have noticed that is weird is that UBoat can't seem to decide what my primary monitor is. Probably once ever 5 launches it selects the secondary monitor, I have to put it into windowed mode and then manually move it onto the primary then go back to full screen.