navigate rivers?

[sED`]

i would love to learn this game. it looks great. videos i watch of people that know what they are doing. awesome! and then i come in. maybe 20 patrol missions deep. not one combat situation yet. no clue how im supposed to find things and thats ok, im learning that. but. whats getting me pulling my hair out right now is when i get these missions that overrule my main to go scout some gun deep down a tiny river that my boat gets stuck in every single time thinking it can go through islands. doing it manually is a total nightmare, i cant even find enemies. are you kidding me?

all i want here is the auto pilot to not think it can convert into a 4x4 monster truck that scales mountains. actually follow the water? maybe?

another crazy thing. these missions that take over your simple patrol. like the one that wanted me to go clear to the other side of the UK to set mines or something. i was already half fuel. i dont even think the u4 could make that trip from whillim with a full tank straight shot anyway. and i couldnt resupply or return to port. so that save file is just sitting in the middle of the ocean no fuel and half battery. dead. most likely.

does the headquaters AI not consider the boat you have or anything when giving new orders half way thru a patrol? like, oh your 8k of that 10k patrol and half a tank? sweet. travel another 15k from current position and patrol for another 8k and than do the what will be 20k trip back. all on half tank. cool? i could run battery engines and conserve as much as possible. i seriously dont think the u4 is doing that.

[SpaceBikerV]

I can’t speak much about navigating small places because i don’t mind manually plotting my routes

As for missions, i recall they tried to prevent longer range missions from appearing in the mission selection list, but i’m not certain

[sED`]

oh man. yea. so i started a u48 in Kiel. lmao. first mission is on the other side of the UK. first. meanwhile the arrows of attack are on poland? anywho. that was all canals. at least the first one gave option to skip, took 12 spongebob hours later. (ingame screen that just said 12 hours later). then was stuck at 140 tc. so got up to grab snack. came back to my boat again full speed right into the side of a mountain. smh. smh. i cant win in this game. i am not allowed.

mad kudos to yall that know wtf your doing

[sED`]

is there a way to "return to port" without completing the missions? that would make sense. but i cant seem to locate it. will try a new game later

[Lith7ium]

Okay, so, one thing after another.

1. Yes, you have to manually set the course. The automatic planning only works (most times) in friendly ports. Don't rely on that either. Just take one minute to plot your course. You don't have to set everything right at the start, just get close with big time warp then see, what is possible.

2. Finding enemies in this game is a learning experience and requires practice. You have to kinda know the shipping lanes and use your hydro A LOT. It has massively more range than your simple spotting via officers on the surface. Nowadays, there even is a handy little blue button on your depth meter. Press that and the boat will go to about 50 meters, the hydro station will be used, the AI will listen (try to do it manually, it is very simple and you will get better results most of the time) inform you about enemies, blow the tanks and even start the compressor fully automatically. Use this every couple hours on a patrol to spot enemies.

3. Yeah, the mining missions in the U2A are a little frustrating right now. They are possible, but you need to manually alternate between electric and diesel engine, which is a huge pain in the ass. I hope the devs will add a warning to the U2A, since this boat is REALLY terrible, especially for a new player or increase its range. Right now it is not in a good spot.

If you need to increase mileage, first lower your speed. Half speed is your travel speed, small and tiny are better when it comes to range. If you are in a U2A, your travel speed should be small or even tiny. Also always assign additional sailors to the machinist and to the navigator. They will give you a lot more range.

4. Well yes, but actually no. The HQ AI does actually consider your mileage (as far as I can see right now) but it assumes, that you are a very skilled player who knows how to mange range very efficiently. This is NOT the case for a new player and the U2A is a TERRIBLE boat to give to such a person.

Stick in there buddy. The next boats will get a lot better. Even the U2B has a range of about 5 times what you have right now.

Oh and don't bother with the Norwegian Campaign right now. It is broken.

[SpaceBikerV]

Originally posted by sED`:

meanwhile the arrows of attack are on poland?

This is just history. Germany is invading Poland on land, while the Uboats get ready for any retaliation from France/Britain

Originally posted by sED`:

took 12 spongebob hours later. (ingame screen that just said 12 hours later). then was stuck at 140 tc

I don’t know what you mean by stuck because you can cancel all tc with spacebar

Originally posted by sED`:

is there a way to "return to port" without completing the missions? that would make sense. but i cant seem to locate it. will try a new game later

You have to manually go back to port if you don’t complete a mission

You could use a teleport console command, but the console is disabled (there’s a mod to enable it) because it blocks achievements

[WonderStag]

With the early uboat with short fuel range I'm almost exclusively using the electric engines and only use the diesel for charging up the electric. This dramatically increases the range. Like 3-5 times more, if not even more than that (I haven't tested exactly how much). It's a little pain to always switch the two and 5600x time compression is not an option while doing this, but I don't have to worry about fuel this way.

Another option is to travel long distances with the slowest engine setting which is way more fuel efficient than higher settings. But since you can use 5600x compression, it should not be a problem. You can check the actual distance you can do with your current amount of fuel and engine setting if you hover your cursor over the fuel indicator on top.

[sED`]

Originally posted by SpaceBikerV:

Originally posted by sED`:

meanwhile the arrows of attack are on poland?

This is just history. Germany is invading Poland on land, while the Uboats get ready for any retaliation from France/Britain

Originally posted by sED`:

took 12 spongebob hours later. (ingame screen that just said 12 hours later). then was stuck at 140 tc

I don’t know what you mean by stuck because you can cancel all tc with spacebar

Originally posted by sED`:

is there a way to "return to port" without completing the missions? that would make sense. but i cant seem to locate it. will try a new game later

You have to manually go back to port if you don’t complete a mission

You could use a teleport console command, but the console is disabled (there’s a mod to enable it) because it blocks achievements

1) the u4 starting in willhiicantspell, the UK is red. its not red starting in Kiel. i am simply pointing out in game items. outside of the game, i have a pretty dang good knowledge on the history. im not worried about the historic parts of the game one bit.

2) yea i tried manual (i think) going to port it wouldnt let me. and as far as i can tell so far. i cant drive the boat like i can a spaceship or a car in other games. so.

3) stuck on 140tc simply means my max time crunch was 140 ticks as opposed to the way fast 16000. i figure that would be self explanitory. 140 is also a good indicator that your in shallower water. as you can bump up to 400 or something above 140. but anywho.

i dont mind people tell me what im doing wrong. but out of your list. i didnt see much advice on how to correct my wrong doings. i dont understand why people do that. why even respond?

[sED`]

Originally posted by Lith7ium:

Okay, so, one thing after another.

1. Yes, you have to manually set the course. The automatic planning only works (most times) in friendly ports. Don't rely on that either. Just take one minute to plot your course. You don't have to set everything right at the start, just get close with big time warp then see, what is possible.

2. Finding enemies in this game is a learning experience and requires practice. You have to kinda know the shipping lanes and use your hydro A LOT. It has massively more range than your simple spotting via officers on the surface. Nowadays, there even is a handy little blue button on your depth meter. Press that and the boat will go to about 50 meters, the hydro station will be used, the AI will listen (try to do it manually, it is very simple and you will get better results most of the time) inform you about enemies, blow the tanks and even start the compressor fully automatically. Use this every couple hours on a patrol to spot enemies.

3. Yeah, the mining missions in the U2A are a little frustrating right now. They are possible, but you need to manually alternate between electric and diesel engine, which is a huge pain in the ass. I hope the devs will add a warning to the U2A, since this boat is REALLY terrible, especially for a new player or increase its range. Right now it is not in a good spot.

If you need to increase mileage, first lower your speed. Half speed is your travel speed, small and tiny are better when it comes to range. If you are in a U2A, your travel speed should be small or even tiny. Also always assign additional sailors to the machinist and to the navigator. They will give you a lot more range.

4. Well yes, but actually no. The HQ AI does actually consider your mileage (as far as I can see right now) but it assumes, that you are a very skilled player who knows how to mange range very efficiently. This is NOT the case for a new player and the U2A is a TERRIBLE boat to give to such a person.

Stick in there buddy. The next boats will get a lot better. Even the U2B has a range of about 5 times what you have right now.

Oh and don't bother with the Norwegian Campaign right now. It is broken.

your a G

[SpaceBikerV]

Originally posted by sED`:

i dont mind people tell me what im doing wrong. but out of your list. i didnt see much advice on how to correct my wrong doings. i dont understand why people do that. why even respond?

I just assumed you already knew about manual course plotting since you knew it existed… it thought the manual plotting is intuitive enough that I didn’t need to explain anything. And stating that you were “stuck” in 140 tc is vague because there are cases of tc being “permanent” until they paused the game or used a different setting. It didn’t sound like “the faster tc options were locked”.

And since you stated you wanted to learn how to find targets, i again, assumed you already had plans to look up tutorials on youtube or something. So i felt it was irrelevant giving out advice for that

I’m not trying to waste your time here… i just interpreted your questions and answered the best of my ability

[Hidden Gunman]

After doing the impromptu 'ungrounding your uboot' tuturial, I looked for and found how to get through the kiel canal by magic. Got the impression the devs tried to autopilot through it as well.

[Cellar_Cat]

I tend to observe the patrolling ships around enemy ports and follow their course if I am sneaking in for AA spotting or to drop off a spy. They seem to keep to the deeper (and not apparently mined) areas.

[sED`]

this game is officially the most frustrating nonsense i have ever encountered.

started a fresh game with the u48. was going splendid. got 2 kills on my first 2 patrols. feelin good. take up the enigma mission. was a rough go. managed to sink the destroyed but ran out of torpedos after many misses and duds. so the little gun ship was still there. tried going in for guns myself and it got me with some good hits. ran out of repairs. so i ran. live to fight another day. but obviously this game does not allow that. like i said previous and im still waiting for an answer on how to "manually" return to dock. because i have no clue. my ship is now sunk at the gates of willhi port. they would not open. and i took on too much water at that point. so what prompt or option menu activates the ability to dock while on mission? they refused to send me resupplies even when im just outside the port as well. nobody in the area? how? the whole dam area is homeland..... this is my 8th or 9th game i have started and now have to abandon. and i just dont think its worth it.

game could be really fun. but instead it slaps you in the face and makes you feel like you need a PHD just to play intermediate.

[War...war never changes]

game could be really fun. but instead it slaps you in the face and makes you feel like you need a PHD just to play intermediate.

I thought the same in the begining, but in the meantime I figured out how to fire and hit with torps most of the time and now intermediate is too easy; perhaps I'll try higher difficulties as well

[sED`]

it is for sure fun to take on challenges. if you are the type of person. my opinion, obviously anybody that plays this game just loves washing their face with sandpaper. lol. at the rate, i am thinking my 20-25 save will be the one it all clicks and i will start saying how easy this game is. hopefully!

but that still dosnt take away from the title. this is still a very valid topic/issue. it is hell navigating rivers with a sub. the AI does not do it. and even setting it incriments holding shift (im assuming this is manual?) the thing will still just keep on going sometimes and that keepin on is where the wall is. identify 4 AA guns in bembu or something taught me that one! even reverse. the ship tried turning around. for reverse. so i am really missing a lot still. i figure reverse would have actually put the thing in reverse. i go straight in and straight out. how mad i was already after 45 minutes scanning the area to find that fourth one. way the hell down deep inside the port. just to do my best austin powers immitation with a submarine instead of that yellow cart. game loves to make you mad. loves to.

[Dollburger]

Originally posted by sED`:

it is for sure fun to take on challenges. if you are the type of person. my opinion, obviously anybody that plays this game just loves washing their face with sandpaper. lol. at the rate, i am thinking my 20-25 save will be the one it all clicks and i will start saying how easy this game is. hopefully!

but that still dosnt take away from the title. this is still a very valid topic/issue. it is hell navigating rivers with a sub. the AI does not do it. and even setting it incriments holding shift (im assuming this is manual?) the thing will still just keep on going sometimes and that keepin on is where the wall is. identify 4 AA guns in bembu or something taught me that one! even reverse. the ship tried turning around. for reverse. so i am really missing a lot still. i figure reverse would have actually put the thing in reverse. i go straight in and straight out. how mad i was already after 45 minutes scanning the area to find that fourth one. way the hell down deep inside the port. just to do my best austin powers immitation with a submarine instead of that yellow cart. game loves to make you mad. loves to.

I'm not understanding why you're trying to navigate rivers with the sub? There are canals (like Kiel) that you can just fast travel through. You mentioned the UK not being red at first - this is due to the fact that the early campaign starts before Germany is at war with England; this changes while you're out on patrol. You also mentioned the arrows in Poland - this represents the German invasion of Poland at that time, but that's not your war. I have never attempted to, or needed to, navigate a river in this game.